Lord of the Rings TV Series Purchased by Amazon

[Syegfryed]

You know how this was such a gigantic clusterfuck of awfulness when people try to attack the original trilogy to defend this.

I remember one guy here that was shitting on Tolkien, to save face of the serie, like "Tolkien was not even that good" holy fuck

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I mean, no. The lines you're referencing are just a tiny potion of the total dialogue in the films. And the movies lines are mostly derived from the books. Obviously something RoP writers had hugely stacked against them is having a very limited source material.

This series however is mostly bad lines. Nothing great or memorable from what I've seen so far. At best there are a few mediocre - good lines sprinkled through each episode.

The show think their memroable lines are:

"there is a tempest inside me!"
"Our hearts bigger than our feet!"
"The ea is always right!"

All awful lines that in context are even worse, because by example, the Hobbits are little sociopaths that left people to die on purpose

[Orby]

You know how this was such a gigantic clusterfuck of awfulness when people try to attack the original trilogy to defend this.

I remember one guy here that was shitting on Tolkien, to save face of the serie, like "Tolkien was not even that good" holy fuck

No one is attacking the original trilogy. Only pointing out that it wasnt perfect and the hypocrisy of certain criticisms on Rings of Power, which is right for them to do so. But my point is because the movies were factually better its easy to forget the negatives because the movies were so good, where as Rings of Powers flaws are highlighted by the shows awful story and dialogue so other things stand out too.

the original trilogy is one of my favourite trilogies and movies of all time. so when I criticise it, I do it with love :P

[Syegfryed]

No one is attacking the original trilogy. Only pointing out that it wasnt perfect and the hypocrisy of certain criticisms on Rings of Power, which is right for them to do so. But my point is because the movies were factually better its easy to forget the negatives because the movies were so good, where as Rings of Powers flaws are highlighted by the shows awful story and dialogue so other things stand out too.

the original trilogy is one of my favourite trilogies and movies of all time. so when I criticise it, I do it with love :P

Pointing out that isn't perfect is completely pointless because we are not discussing the trilogy, we know isn't perfect, we know it have flaws, but its done and gone, And it don't see any hypocrisy here, the show have way more shit lines compared to the movies

Trying to say "the original trilogy have flaws" in an attempt to defend this is desperate,

[Orby]

Pointing out that isn't perfect is completely pointless because we are not discussing the trilogy, we know isn't perfect, we know it have flaws, but its done and gone, And it don't see any hypocrisy here, the show have way more shit lines compared to the movies

Trying to say "the original trilogy have flaws" in an attempt to defend this is desperate,

I agree, but don't blame me I am just arguing with people who are doing that :P

[downnola]

The show think their memroable lines are:

"there is a tempest inside me!"

It wasn't a serious line because she's immediately thrown in jail after her rant. The juxtaposition of scenes is an obvious attempt at humor.

[Darkeon]

The show was so good that there needs to be a surge in Disney twitter fanpages saying that people simply did not understand what really happened and explaining why it was actually good.

[rhorle]

The show was so good that there needs to be a surge in Disney twitter fanpages saying that people simply did not understand what really happened and explaining why it was actually good.

Are you sure you are in the right thread? You may be looking for the she-hulk one.

[Darkeon]

Are you sure you are in the right thread? You may be looking for the she-hulk one.

Even the effects team already bailed on she-hulk by now, my man. I definitely didn't mean it.

But you might be on to something, there was also a spike in 'fanpages' fighting off the criticism from that show.

[Shadowferal]

The show was so good that there needs to be a surge in Disney twitter fanpages saying that people simply did not understand what really happened and explaining why it was actually good.

You forgot the tag..(/s)

[rhorle]

Even the effects team already bailed on she-hulk by now, my man. I definitely didn't mean it. But you might be on to something, there was also a spike in 'fanpages' fighting off the criticism from that show.

It was pointing out how you said Disney twitter fan pages for an Amazon show.

[Darkeon]

It was pointing out how you said Disney twitter fan pages for an Amazon show.

That's fair. Nowadays all these corporations just end up looking the same to me, potato potahto type thing. But yeah, I understand the reasoning of your post now, I completely overlooked them.

[minteK917]

Im gona say it then, hate me if you want. She hulk was the better show to watch out of these two, not even close too lol. Honestly what suck is that people probably watched ring of power garbage more then andor, which is an actual fucking good show. But its flying under most people because its not fucking jedi nostalgia shit for the 500th time.

[Bigbazz]

The original Peter Jackson Trilogy was a masterpiece, unfortunately this was a trainwreck fanfiction. It is a shame, I hope the show is cancelled to cut losses and then we can forget it ever existed.

[Adamas102]

Every paragraph filled with idiocy. Let’s start from the top.

My dude, the show try to rpesent him as the great blacksmit of the age, yet, this is not what we see.

Celebrimbor wasn’t a blacksmith. A blacksmith is a smith who primarily works with iron and steel. Tolkien never called him a blacksmith and as far as I recall the show never called him a blacksmith. The few works of Celebrimbor that are mentioned in text are made of gold, silver, mithril, and gemstones.

He can't be the best if others can do better than him, the show contradict itself and make him a dumbass, an old dumbass

Other than the rings, the only other work of Celebrimbor that Tolkien confirms is the Moria gate, of which his part was setting the mithril inlay. Celebrimbor’s craftsmanship skills in making elaborate and finely detailed work isn’t eclipsed by some dudes elsewhere figuring out how to make harder shields. Unless those Southland smiths are also making magic rings and magic doors then I’d say Celebrimbor is still far more skilled than they are.

Waow, look at that, another headcanon fo yours as the show does not put him as a "jewel smith"

This is the one that takes the cake and proves that you really don’t know what you’re talking about.

Him being a jewel-smith isn’t my headcanon. It’s what Tolkien wrote. Celebrimbor founded the Gwaith-i-Mirdain (the smiths who forged the rings) and that name literally means “People of the jewel-smiths”. While the show doesn’t say it outright, it makes a point of showing how he takes great inspiration from Feanor whose claim to fame was of course a set of jewels.

[Askyl]

The original Peter Jackson Trilogy was a masterpiece, unfortunately this was a trainwreck fanfiction. It is a shame, I hope the show is cancelled to cut losses and then we can forget it ever existed.

Too bad for you millions upon millions love it and you'll have to endure all 5 seasons of this amazing show! Must be hard for you to cope the world doesn't spin around you.

I love people calling this fanfiction as if PJs trilogy wasn't. The movies changed most characters to the core and both removed, added and changed events that were vital to the story in the books. If people could stop pretending to be Tolkien experts because it's trendy it'd be great!

[MCMLXXXII]

So after watching the entire season I'll give it a 6/10.
It's not as bad as some Youtubers, and the people parroting them, claim it to be but it could've been better, mostly in pacing and writing.
Galadriel still is off, the entire season. To many member berries are used.
Although we're getting more seasons of this, my hopes of ever seeing a Silmarillion series have been reduced to below zero thanks to this underperforming.

[jonnysensible]

Silmarillion series have been reduced to below zero thanks to this underperforming.

thank allah we are spared it. Can't imagine 10 hours of this is pongo, son of mongo, son of drongo, son of tongo would be interesting.

[Maximus Testiculos]

if celembrimbor gets fooled so easily, i have some nice bridges to sell him in eriador.

[cface]

Im gona say it then, hate me if you want. She hulk was the better show to watch out of these two, not even close too lol. Honestly what suck is that people probably watched ring of power garbage more then andor, which is an actual fucking good show. But its flying under most people because its not fucking jedi nostalgia shit for the 500th time.

Andor is the absolute best show for me atm. I'm not much for action scenes (get easily bored by them), but in Andor, I feel something for every simple character somehow, and lazors flying in fights feel impactful and makes me in a nail-biting-mood. Just the way these actors carry them self, small details on how to patrol and how easy it can go wrong. There seems to be put a lot of thought into every scene.
I couldn't care about anyone dying in RoP, it's all, whatever. Showrunners just seems to, lets fast forward the plot now,ooh, lets stop a bit. I mean these guys that runs this show, must be one of the biggest amateurs I've seen. How on earth did they get grab of this show?

I can't pinpoint my finger why I dislike RoP so much, I wanted this show to be good, I came with open mind, couldn't care about blacks here and there, but overall, this show was and is a disaster. You don't feel anything, and if you somehow get a good mood going, they seem to pull you out of it in the following messups k. That could happen in the LotR movies (gimli counting kills etc, but it was rare enough it could be a relief of tension, didn't bother me that much).

[Orby]

Im gona say it then, hate me if you want. She hulk was the better show to watch out of these two, not even close too lol. Honestly what suck is that people probably watched ring of power garbage more then andor, which is an actual fucking good show. But its flying under most people because its not fucking jedi nostalgia shit for the 500th time.

I havent watched She-Hulk, but I have been trying to compare it to Wheel of Time since that is a better comparison both are massive fantasy universes. And I still think Rings of Power has more going for it than Wheel of Time.

• Both suffer from similar problems but Rings of Power has a bigger budget with both falling apart towards the end.
• Both try and add in their own stories over going by the source material, where as to give RoP credit they tried to make best from what is basically bullet points so I can understand fucking it. But Wheel of Time actually had the material and choose to ignore it and make their own story.
• The acting and dialogue in Wheel of Time was better if not a little awkward at times. Rings of Power had very weak dialogue that switched between tring to sound like Tolkien writing and sounding modern, way too often, despite an awful character in Galadriel had some good characters in Elrond, Durin and Disa. Wheel of Time outside of Moraine and Lan the rest of the cast and the 'kids' were unbearable.
• Rings of Power had better effects and locations, Wheel of Time had one place that actually wowed me and that was Shadar Logoth
• Rings of Power had a memorable soundtrack. Wheel of Time I cannot even remember the music.
• Battle and fight scenes, Wheel of Time has more, both both have are very underwhelming, although Rings of Power did have the village skirmish which was the closest we had to an actual fight scene.