Lord of the Rings TV Series Purchased by Amazon

[Syegfryed]

It's like a meme.

Step 1: Melt the dagger
Step 2: Add Mithril
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit

Something funny too, if you look at the ring with the sapphire, that "line" in the middle of the ring make it look like its plastic


I honestly think their design is awful, i saw much better being sold on the internet out there

[rhorle]

Something funny too, if you look at the ring with the sapphire, that "line" in the middle of the ring make it look like its plastic

It is a common technique to give bands a different look and has nothing to do with something being plastic. You really are just fishing for things to complain about.

[Raisei]

Honestly, when Galadriel went to Celebrimbor without informing them that Sauron was involved, I was half-convinced they would pull out a "Galadriel in that scene was in fact Sauron shape-shifting to get the Rings done", that would have explained Elrond's suspicious look at Galadriel like he's trying to figure out if it's really her.

I'm not sure that would have been better than what we had though.

I have to say most of Halbrand's grand scheme and whatever Galadriel did throughout this serie didn't make much sense to me.

I was thinking the same. Hoping in fact. But the show just isn't capable of twists.

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What really irked me is that they melted the gold and silver and steel altogether, threw in the mithril chunk that they had, and then made three rings of different colors...

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'member when he says follow your nose? 'member??!

And the best part is that only one of the Rings is canonically made from Mythril. Nenya, the Ring of Adamant. The others two are made from gold. There is no silver ring...

https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Rings_of_Power#Nenya

[Syegfryed]

It is a common technique to give bands a different look and has nothing to do with something being plastic. You really are just fishing for things to complain about.

Maybe its a common technique for cheap shit, i see thing like that from fake bijou.

[rhorle]

Maybe its a common technique for cheap shit, i see thing like that from fake bijou.

There is no accounting for taste. The example of something you'd prefer looks more like costume jewelry than what was used on the show.

[Shadowferal]

Narya (the Ring of Fire, the Red Ring) was set with a ruby. Its final bearer was the Wizard Gandalf, who received it from Círdan at the Grey Havens during the Third Age.
Nenya (the Ring of Water, the White Ring, the Ring of Adamant) was made of mithril and set with a "shimmering white stone". Galadriel used it to protect and preserve the realm of Lothlórien.
Vilya (the Ring of Air, the Blue Ring) was the mightiest of the Three. It was made of gold and set with a sapphire. Elrond inherited Vilya from Gil-galad and used it to safeguard Rivendell.

[VMSmith]

I think you are not understanding what I have been saying which is that all combat on screen is fake. So making it look 'realistic' has nothing to do with whether it matches "real world" combat or not. For example, people cannot fly under their own power in real life, but movies are made that try and make people flying look "realistic". In that context, what is "realistic" is a measure of the final result on screen, not whether or not it actually exists in the real world.

It's like the difference between the combat in Crouching Tiger and Kill Bill versus the combat in a typical CW superhero show. It's all laughably unrealistic, but the depiction in Crouching Tiger and Kill Bill is so well done that you buy into it as "real", for that world at least.

Even the combat in a Stephen Chow movie is believable because, as utterly unrealistic as it is, it's intentional for that world for the combat to look that hyperstylized.

All the combat I've seen from RoP is "Legolas sledding on a shield" levels of bad and unbelievable. That Legolas moment totally took me out of the films in PJ's trilogy, I can't imagine why they're trying to recreate that sort of moment.

[Xath]

The color can make sense depending on the ratio in the alloy. As I said gold itself can change colors based on what it is mixed with and the fictional mithril could behave the same way. Or the pool of molten metal might not have equal amounts of each metal through out which could also explain a variance. Remember to that Elves, at one point, could make blades that glowed when orcs were nearby. It isn't that crazy that magic could change properties of molten or finished products slightly.

Though as I said the ingot scene seems a goof. I wonder if they would edit it after the fact if it is actually a mistake. The Starbucks cup for GoT or green finger for HotD come to mind as fixes of that nature. Or the digitally imposed ad in Jack Reacher being removed after the episode premiered.

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She isn't the Queen yet on the show. Only the queen-reagent. It still doesn't change that the events the person was complaining about haven't been covered by the show yet and have yet to be changed from Tolkien's work. So just let your grudge against me go and stop making a fool of yourself.

She never ascended to power in any sense as Tar Miriel those events have been changed already. I only call you out when you post blatant falsehoods. When her father died and she would have taken over she was forcibly married to Pharazon and had her name changed.

The most annoying part is if they wanted to have a woman as ruler there were 3 before her that wouldn't have required retcons.

edit: I forgot one other thing with the whole Celeborn saga. We don't have any mention of Celebrian so is Elrond going to see her as a kid and decide he must wife her or wtf? It's going to be really damn awkward to the point I doubt they ever bring the husband and kid into the show.

[rhorle]

She never ascended to power in any sense as Tar Miriel those events have been changed already.

I never claimed her being queen-regent was from the books. Ar-Pharazon has yet to take over on the show so he can't capture Sauron yet. The events described can't have taken place yet so you don't only call me out when I post blatant falsehoods as what I said isn't yet false. Lmao.

[Xath]

I never claimed her being queen-regent was from the books. Ar-Pharazon has yet to take over on the show so he can't capture Sauron yet. The events described can't have taken place yet so you don't only call me out when I post blatant falsehoods as what I said isn't yet false. Lmao.

Her being queen-regent is a retcon. Stop trying to weasel out you claimed they weren't retconning I just provided a specific example that is a retcon. There's a lot more but that one in particular is indisputable. If you would like I can start posting the literal text about that particular time from sil the appendices and can even throw in unfinished tales.

[rhorle]

Her being queen-regent is a retcon.

I never claimed it wasn't. You really have let this grudge against me go to your head. Lmao.

[Maruka]

Show was alright, felt like they were very hamstrung about what they could reference from the movies.

[Majestic12]

I just looked over the Mithril retcon story again - and it really doesn't hold up to any scrutiny whatsoever when it comes to elven lore. It's their biggest mess by far.

[qwerty123456]

Not really a RoP question but more of a Lord of the Rings one is it ever explained why Sauron isn't a Balrog? I thought he, Gandalf & the other wizards were all the same species as the Balrogs with Balrogs being the corrupted version after they were influenced by the first Dark Lord. Is it because Sauron was a blacksmith elemental while Balrogs were fire or some shit?

[Adamas102]

Her being queen-regent is a retcon. Stop trying to weasel out you claimed they weren't retconning I just provided a specific example that is a retcon. There's a lot more but that one in particular is indisputable. If you would like I can start posting the literal text about that particular time from sil the appendices and can even throw in unfinished tales.

It’s not a retcon because it doesn’t necessarily change the continuity of the narrative. She could very well be made queen for a season and the narrative remain the same with her losing the throne to Pharazon and being forced to marry him with everything turning out the same way as the appendices outlined.

It’s a change, but not a retcon.

And what’s more, it’s a good change since a character who never had any agency is barely a character at all. Too many of Tolkien’s characters in this time fit that bill, just a name and nothing more.

[Flurryfang]

Not really a RoP question but more of a Lord of the Rings one is it ever explained why Sauron isn't a Balrog? I thought he, Gandalf & the other wizards were all the same species as the Balrogs with Balrogs being the corrupted version after they were influenced by the first Dark Lord. Is it because Sauron was a blacksmith elemental while Balrogs were fire or some shit?

While Gandalf, Sauron and the Balrogs are all Maiar, they come in very different forms when it comes to the physical world. They proberly are all somewhat the same in the spiritual world, as angelic beings, but in the physical world they each have different ways of manifesting themselves.

So Balrogs became balrogs to fight for Melkor and be his soldiers, while Sauron became what he is, because he was to be a ruler and leader, while Gandalf and the other wizards look as they look, to blend in with the mortal beings of the world and guide them in the fight against Sauron.

[tikcol]

The guy only reads the equivalent of cliff notes...and his debate logic rarely exceeds preschool levels. Why bother...

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[Fortress of Arrogance]

As dr.Zeuss once said:
"Don't smile that it's over; cry because it happened."

[Flurryfang]

The thing i am most sad about when it comes to the shows ending, is the rush of making the rings.

Because ohh what a sequence of scenes it could have been, if they had really put care into showing the amazing work, that would have gone into making 3 extremly powerful magic rings. Like not only the artistry of making the designs and the smithing, but the grinding down of the mold, the fine working of adding jewels and fine art to the surface of them, not even to mention the idea of infusing the rings with tremendous magical power.

Instead, they make it seem so simple and the creation is over so fast. It completly removes the tremoundous importance this has for the world and why this was not a simple solution for the problem of the elves.

I know it is a bad word, but it does give Halfbrand a "mary-sue" moment, coming in with just the right knowledge at the right time.

[bledgor]

The thing i am most sad about when it comes to the shows ending, is the rush of making the rings.

Because ohh what a sequence of scenes it could have been, if they had really put care into showing the amazing work, that would have gone into making 3 extremly powerful magic rings. Like not only the artistry of making the designs and the smithing, but the grinding down of the mold, the fine working of adding jewels and fine art to the surface of them, not even to mention the idea of infusing the rings with tremendous magical power.

Instead, they make it seem so simple and the creation is over so fast. It completly removes the tremoundous importance this has for the world and why this was not a simple solution for the problem of the elves.

I know it is a bad word, but it does give Halfbrand a "mary-sue" moment, coming in with just the right knowledge at the right time.

What you didn't enjoy them "coaxing" the mithril and the other metals by just dropping it into the others? Or how putting all the metals together somehow got 2 gold and 1 silver ring? This is fantasy don't have such high expectations! /s.