Lord of the Rings TV Series Purchased by Amazon

[Triceron]

Would be nice to see how the ringwraiths get ensnared, there’s a lot of potential for an interesting story there, particularly because they could be people who otherwise would have been good (like Boromir).

But that seems too complex for these showrunners.

I really hope there is a strong characterization for each of the Ringwraiths. I really liked what they did with Adar, and would want to see that level of characterization for the Nazgul. But I have a sinking feeling they'll just do em dirty and make em out like the Mystics and completely make em faceless mooks that lack any personality at all.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

Happy that it’s over now, at least 1 year without this it…

You know...if you don't like the show, or any show, you can just not watch it. That way it's "over" for more than 1 year....for you, it's over forever.

[Hansworst]

You know...if you don't like the show, or any show, you can just not watch it. That way it's "over" for more than 1 year....for you, it's over forever.

Ignore that. It's a ban evading account of the person spamming those woke gifs throughout all threads.

[Xath]

You know...if you don't like the show, or any show, you can just not watch it. That way it's "over" for more than 1 year....for you, it's over forever.

As has been said approximately 50 times the sooner a terrible adapt is canceled the sooner a timer to someone who actually cares about it doing it starts. See Dune for an example.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

As has been said approximately 50 times the sooner a terrible adapt is canceled the sooner a timer to someone who actually cares about it doing it starts. See Dune for an example.

You don't get a show cancelled by continuing to watch it every week. Shows get cancelled when people STOP watching them.

[Triceron]

As has been said approximately 50 times the sooner a terrible adapt is canceled the sooner a timer to someone who actually cares about it doing it starts. See Dune for an example.

Nah, that is pure correlation. Work in the industry, there is no 'timer', there is only the film company/executive producer's faith in the franchise making money and whether they think it's run its gamut. See Transformers or Twilight for an example.

[Xath]

Nah, that is pure correlation. Work in the industry, there is no 'timer', there is only the film company/executive producer's faith in the franchise making money and whether they think it's run its gamut. See Transformers or Twilight for an example.

Transformers is marketed at an lcd audience lotr isn't which is the problem with the show runners they are choosing for these shows. They are much more suited to running stuff like survivor.

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You don't get a show cancelled by continuing to watch it every week. Shows get cancelled when people STOP watching them.

I don't need to watch it in order to find out what new horrible retcon has been done for the week

[SpaghettiMonk]

They don’t even just watch it once. I’ve seen people here mention watching episodes again to look for more flaws. It’s the most backwards logic. “I hate it so much I’m gonna keep watching it reeeeeeee!!!!”

Problem is, you're never, ever gonna see another series about this part of Tolkien, so if you're a fan of the universe, you watch it and hate it. With this particular series it's beyond "hey maybe they can make it better", and is now just pure hatred, I mostly watch it in horror and my friends and I all meet and complain afterwards. Hate watching is a real thing.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

I don't need to watch it in order to find out what new horrible retcon has been done for the week

Then my comment doesn't apply to you...

[Specialka]

You know...if you don't like the show, or any show, you can just not watch it. That way it's "over" for more than 1 year....for you, it's over forever.

How can you form an opinion if you do not read/listen/watch everything you do not like ? Then you get to start to live in a bubble as you do apparently.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

How can you form an opinion if you do not read/listen/watch everything you do not like ? Then you get to start to live in a bubble as you do apparently.

You'll never be able to read/listen/watch everything. You're always going to have to make choices about what you're going to spend your time reading/listening/watching. I'm just suggesting that people might be happier spending their time with things they actually like instead.

But specifically, in the context of this conversation, I am talking about people that have decided they do not like Rings of Power. They could have stopped weatching Rings of Power as soon as they made that discovery. But they kept watching until the end of the season...and will continue to watch next season.

[Specialka]

You'll never be able to read/listen/watch everything. You're always going to have to make choices about what you're going to spend your time reading/listening/watching. I'm just suggesting that people might be happier spending their time with things they actually like instead.

But specifically, in the context of this conversation, I am talking about people that have decided they do not like Rings of Power. They could have stopped weatching Rings of Power as soon as they made that discovery. But they kept watching until the end of the season...and will continue to watch next season.

That is what I do. I always go to the end of a movie/serie/game I do not like because I want to see if I am wrong til the end. Usually, I am not though. That is how you form an educated opinion.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

That is what I do. I always go to the end of a movie/serie/game I do not like because I want to see if I am wrong til the end. Usually, I am not though. That is how you form an educated opinion.

You have to watch every series to the end to discover if you were "right" about not liking it?

That's a lot of time wasted on things you don't like that you could have spent on things you do.

For myself, I'm not going to watch 20 seasons of Grey's Anatomy just to confirm I do not like Grey's Anatomy.

[Specialka]

You have to watch every series to the end to discover if you were "right" about not liking it?

That's a lot of time wasted on things you don't like that you could have spent on things you do.

But I like to know if I am right or no, so not totally a waste of time. And my life is so plentiful that I don't care "wasting time on things I do not like".

[Triceron]

Transformers is marketed at an lcd audience lotr isn't which is the problem with the show runners they are choosing for these shows. They are much more suited to running stuff like survivor.

Yeah but if you look at the numbers and how many people are actually watching the show, it's a similar lcd casual audience who may have watched the LOTR movies but never read the books or know anything about the 2nd Age.

And it worked for Amazon. Even if the show is getting panned by critics and enthusiasts, the casuals are eating it up.

It might not be House of the Dragon success, but few shows are so it'd not be worth comparing. Like, Andor is a way better show than Rings of Power, but it's got shit viewership sadly. Better shows don't always equal success.

[Skulltaker]

It doesn't change any context. It is still One Ring to rule them all. One Ring to bind them. Of course Sauron is related because he is the one who forged it and infused all his native power into it.



Duh. It isn't a faithful adaptation so it isn't going to be 100% faithful to Tolkien canon. It is faithful to the Dwarven King when the rings were forged, Durin III, and the war of the last alliance, Durin IV. Since the show compresses the timeline into a few hundred years at most (or just a few years on the lower end) it makes sense to have Durin III and Durin IV around.

Yes, it does. I'm sorry that your reading comprehension is so terrible. The poem attributes Rings to Ringbearers. 3 for the elves, 7 for the dwarves, 9 for men, and one for the Dark Lord. The Lord of the Rings.

You're correct that it isn't a faithful adaptation. But no, as I've explained, it makes no sense for them to share a screen since both are to be considered a reincarnation of the same dwarf. What happened here is that the writes looked up the lineage of Durin and failed to comprehend what the relation between the first dwarven kings was.

And you can repeat the 'compressed timeline' argument all you like, that doesn't make it any better. It only proves that the writers have no clue how to build tension, other than vastly accelerating events. Because they need the elves to gaze in awe upon something, for the dramatic shot. So they simply print out three rings, that, even though they're not supposed to be touched by Sauron, were touched by him. Awesome job.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

But I like to know if I am right or no, so not totally a waste of time. And my life is so plentiful that I don't care "wasting time on things I do not like".

Oh yeah.

Totally not a waste of time to find out after twenty seasons of watching a show you hate that you were right to hate it from season 1.

[Skulltaker]

And it worked for Amazon. Even if the show is getting panned by critics and enthusiasts, the casuals are eating it up.

Did it? Not so sure. If the goal was just to get a show that is watched by many, sure. It did. I don't think amazon is happy with merely that, though. I'm pretty confident to say that they lost a huge amount of money on this project, as it stands. Because I doubt that the 25 million who watched the first episode subbed to prime to do so. And if critics and enthusiasts pan it, that might drive authors who want their works adapted away from prime.

[SpaghettiMonk]

Yeah but if you look at the numbers and how many people are actually watching the show, it's a similar lcd casual audience who may have watched the LOTR movies but never read the books or know anything about the 2nd Age.

And it worked for Amazon. Even if the show is getting panned by critics and enthusiasts, the casuals are eating it up.

It might not be House of the Dragon success, but few shows are so it'd not be worth comparing. Like, Andor is a way better show than Rings of Power, but it's got shit viewership sadly. Better shows don't always equal success.

When I starting watching the Sopranos way back when, I was like, holy crap, this network HBO does shows differently, I need to watch more of these. It drew me in and I watched a lot of other things on that network. There's nothing about Rings of Power that's making me say, "Let me see what else Amazon has to offer." Yes, Rings of Power has viewers, but there's no buzz, there's no enthusiasm, and I don't think it's the tentpole Amazon was hoping for.

[Specialka]

Oh yeah.

Totally not a waste of time to find out after twenty seasons of watching a show you hate that you were right to hate it from season 1.

Curious, but shows I do not like usually do not get more than a second season.