Lord of the Rings TV Series Purchased by Amazon

[Varodoc]

It's actually tragic how Aemond Targaryen from Westeros looks more like a Middle Earth elf than... you know... the creatures from this show:

[downnola]

It's actually tragic how Aemond Targaryen from Westeros looks more like a Middle Earth elf than... you know... the creatures from this show:

Short, pencil-thin males with eye patches is exactly how Tolkien described Middle Earth elves, you're right!

[Syegfryed]

Short, pencil-thin males with eye patches is exactly how Tolkien described Middle Earth elves, you're right!

Lets not pretend the ones in ring of power are like Tolkien described either, with midget Galadriel and old fart Celebrimbor.

But If you take the eyepatch, he is close to the elves of middle earth than the rings of power

[Varodoc]

Short, pencil-thin males with eye patches is exactly how Tolkien described Middle Earth elves, you're right!

Latinos with buzz cut, filthy face, and ragged clothes is exactly how Tolkien described elves?

Also, I assume you have never seen HOTD because in no way is Aemond "short" and "pencil-thin". It should be pretty easy to tell from that pic I posted.

[downnola]

Latinos with buzz cut, filthy face, and ragged clothes is exactly how Tolkien described elves?

Also, I assume you have never seen HOTD because in no way is Aemond "short" and "pencil-thin". It should be pretty easy to tell from that pic I posted.

It's hilarious how obsessed you people are with skin tone. There hasn't been a new episode in weeks and here you lot are still crying a river over a dark skinned elf.

Aemound is probably 510-5'11 in that series. Elves as described by Tolkien tower over men of Middle Earth. They're also described as being incredibly beautiful and have more variety in hair color than silver. But I guess if the Jackson films are your gold standard for all things Tolkien, then sure guy, he looks just like an elf

[Syegfryed]

Aemound is probably 510-5'11 in that series. Elves as described by Tolkien tower over men of Middle Earth. They're also described as being incredibly beautiful and have more variety in hair color than silver. But I guess if the Jackson films are your gold standard for all things Tolkien, then sure guy, he looks just like an elf

He is close to 1,77m though, that isn't too short, besides, long hair is more tolkien-ish than a buzzcut with a perfect shade like you did the same morning.

[downnola]

He is close to 1,77m though, that isn't too short, besides, long hair is more tolkien-ish than a buzzcut with a perfect shade like you did the same morning.

Any height below 6 ft is not tall, sorry. And most of what ya'll consider "tolkien-ish" is just headcanon or based on Jackson's films. Tolkien didn't obsess over the trivial shit you guys are bitching about or he wouldn't have been vague in most of his descriptions of these characters. His attention to detail is found in the languages, names, middle-earth itself, and its history. Excuse the cliche, but this is a perfect example of missing the forest for the trees.

[jonnysensible]

He is close to 1,77m though, that isn't too short,

he'd be fine being cast as a hobbit or dwarf

[Syegfryed]

Any height below 6 ft is not tall, sorry. And most of what ya'll consider "tolkien-ish" is just headcanon or based on Jackson's films. Tolkien didn't obsess over the trivial shit you guys are bitching about or he wouldn't have been vague in most of his descriptions of these characters. His attention to detail is found in the languages, names, middle-earth itself, and its history. Excuse the cliche, but this is a perfect example of missing the forest for the trees.

I just said He is not too short, a bit taller than average.

Peter jackson elves are closer to what tolkien described than the elves in rings of power, regardless of how much you nitpick then while ignoring the awful takes on the show.

You are talking like Arondir is the only problem here buddy, the whole forest is a problem, there is honestly not a single elf that look like an elf in rings of power, and yes, the Targeryans look more like tolkien elves, i think even George said once the targeryans are his version of elves.

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he'd be fine being cast as a hobbit or dwarf

If Celebrimbor got an elf, he would be just the best elf

[Koriani]

So would you say the books are important when there's a show written based on them, or is that totally irrelevant?

I think you basically belong in a different thread from the rest of us. Not having read the books means you have a totally different, and to me uninteresting, perspective.

huh...330 pages and you're the first person to try and make this a reason to gatekeep the forum discussion. How silly.

No, they don't belong in a different thread. In fact, this thread is ABOUT THE TV SHOW - so actually you're interest in book-centric discussion would be what would need to be taken to another thread - IF anyone but you were actually saying that.

But no one else is saying that. So both of you can keep going! (if you feel you must ha)

[Raisei]

huh...330 pages and you're the first person to try and make this a reason to gatekeep the forum discussion. How silly.

No, they don't belong in a different thread. In fact, this thread is ABOUT THE TV SHOW - so actually you're interest in book-centric discussion would be what would need to be taken to another thread - IF anyone but you were actually saying that.

But no one else is saying that. So both of you can keep going! (if you feel you must ha)

I would add to that with saying that reading the books is not even needed to realize how terrible the show is. It helps in understanding the "liberties" that the showrunners took with the lore, but that is only one piece of the mudcake we got.

When I was lately asked what I liked about the show I was actually silent for several seconds, because there is so little good about it, I had to think hard to find something. Especially in a comparison with House of the Dragon, a show that oozes quality in nearly every aspect, Rings appears even worse. You would not believe which of these shows had the higher budget...

[InfiniteCharger]

Again, I never said he resigned around the Amazon announcement. I said it was announced or made public around that time. Hence why the article you linked to has a November date rather than an August date. Did you look at the date of the article you linked? It even has a November date in the link.

https://www.theonering.net/torwp/201...olkien-estate/

Like I said, I posted all these details long before in this thread so you aren't explaining anything I already didn't know. The point was you tried to misrepresent the fact that the announcement came right around the same time as the Amazon series was announced as meaning he was "around", as in supporting and promoting this series, when you have no way of knowing that. It goes against everything he has stood for in the past and gives much more support to the opinion that he resigned and others moved forward with this concept to make money.

[rhorle]

Like I said, I posted all these details long before in this thread so you aren't explaining anything I already didn't know. The point was you tried to misrepresent the fact that the announcement came right around the same time as the Amazon series was announced as meaning he was "around"

No. I said it was announced around the same time as the show and that he resigned in August. I had a separate source that stated he was involved with the deal and it was signed prior to his resignation. You keep ignoring what is posted in order to not admit you were wrong. I haven't misrepresented any of the facts.

[InfiniteCharger]

No. I said it was announced around the same time as the show and that he resigned in August. I had a separate source that stated he was involved with the deal and it was signed prior to his resignation. You keep ignoring what is posted in order to not admit you were wrong. I haven't misrepresented any of the facts.

The link I posted is from the same site that you referenced and it says the exact opposite of what you are claiming.
That was the point. Again, you tried to suggest that this was something was involved in as in "supported" when really you are just guessing.

[rhorle]

The link I posted is from the same site that you referenced and it says the exact opposite of what you are claiming.
That was the point. Again, you tried to suggest that this was something was involved in as in "supported" when really you are just guessing.

It does not. Again, look at the date the article about his resignation was posted. You do know how to tell date and time, right? I'm not guessing about him being involved with the deal. I used another source, a person that was invited to Amazon events and got information first-hand, as evidence of him still being in charge when the deal was signed.

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The nielsen numbers are in. 988 million mins viewed for 10/3 to 10/9. A gain of 22 million minutes from the previous week. It will be interesting to see if it trends up again for the finale and post-season. https://www.nielsen.com/top-ten/#streaming

[Fortress of Arrogance]

I think my inner shit connoisseur just had enough with Rings of Poo s1.
IT was just plain bad.
I mean I've watched the Shitcher s1 and s2(and even the animated atrocity), but at least that is hilariously bad, not just plain bad like RoP.
Enough is enough.

[Biomega]

It's too late though. Series is way too off track already.

I don't even know what they could do at this point to make me come back.

Start over?

They won't salvage it, plain and simple. Just another write-off, like so many others before it.

[Elenos]

I think there's some potential to save it, there's some quality in there even if a lot of that relates to the Dwarves and Sauron. Like after the Sauron reveal I might just go watch all the episodes I missed ( I stopped episode 3, because fuck it was tedious ).

[Joszef Kiprich]

Problem with that is the GoT pilot never got aired. Now we have an entire first season to "forget"

[Shadowferal]

Vague rumor that the showrunners are going to be replaced:
https://www.cbr.com/lotr-rings-of-po...lined-season2/
"A minority of LOTR fans adamantly hate The Rings of Power, calling it a bastardization of Tolkien's material" - good to see my viewpoint represented in an article!
It's too late though. Series is way too off track already.

Interesting

Unfortunately, TV fans (and LOTR fans especially) are unforgiving. So, there are rumors that Amazon wants to course-correct for Season 2. Rumors also say that Amazon will do that by removing McKay and Payne from their positions as showrunners. Those rumors first showed up on the 314th episode of the YouTube livestream show Midnight’s Edge in the Morning. While being interviewed, noted film critic and industry insider, Chris Gore, had some strong words for The Rings of Power. He said, “I heard from someone who has a contact at Amazon that – if you wanna know – that effectively, they’re going to be retooling,” he explained. “And [Payne and McKay] are more than likely… they’re not gonna be publicly fired, but their role will be reduced.”

Regardless, The Rings of Power showrunners have set their course and should be allowed to correct it for themselves. They're already looking at Season 1's success and disappointments while getting ready to film Season 2. Payne told Variety, "Certainly, you look at audience response, and you see what characters people love, and what kinds of storytelling move them. I wouldn’t say we're over-correcting for any of it, but we’re certainly listening to people’s responses."

So it's possible we might eventually see a reversal here...