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    There are some new behind the scenes videos for each episode. Accessed via x-ray. A trailer can be watched here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBQ-LVQFd2I

    X-Ray’s behind-the-scenes content invites audiences to take a close, personal look at Season One’s production, allowing fans to discover how the series meticulously brought J.R.R. Tolkien’s Middle-earth to life in all of its splendor. These “making of” pieces, each corresponding to one of the first season’s eight episodes, provide a thrilling deep dive into the series, with exclusive access, behind-the-scenes footage, and interviews with the cast, showrunners, executive producers, directors, and production team.

    “The Making of The Rings of Power” gives fans a special inside look at the creation of the unique realms that make up Middle-earth, including Númenor and Khazad-dûm, both shown on screen at the heights of their glory for the first time. These segments also reveal exciting details about the production design, set decoration, costumes, makeup, visual and special effects, stunts, sword fights, horseback riding, and so much more of the intricate preparation involved in creating this very special world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    There are some new behind the scenes videos for each episode. Accessed via x-ray. A trailer can be watched here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBQ-LVQFd2I
    Do they talk about the slow motion horse riding scene?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    There are some new behind the scenes videos for each episode. Accessed via x-ray. A trailer can be watched here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBQ-LVQFd2I
    I need a behind the scenes on set design It was one of my favourite behind the scenes stuff with the origional trilogy, I love stuff like that as someoen who has worked in that area myself
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkAmbient View Post
    You don't get to claim that your definition of good is a universal truth. Some might think a TV show is good purely because the special effects are cool and the lead character is hot. Others might think a show is good due to the writing, direction, casting and quality of the acting. On those latter qualities I think Rings of Power fails and is easily bested by Better Call Saul, which in my view is a much better show and cost much less to make.
    The simple fact is most viewers who watched the show liked it, that is proof the show is good that is not something you can deny, its not just me claiming its a good show, all the data available proves the show is good and the show has performed far better than most other shows available in such a short time, the only ones who hate it are ppl who generally hate most things and are just looking to whine, case and point the usual suspects in this thread who do the same in several threads.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenn9530 View Post
    The simple fact is most viewers who watched the show liked it, that is proof the show is good that is not something you can deny, its not just me claiming its a good show, all the data available proves the show is good and the show has performed far better than most other shows available in such a short time, the only ones who hate it are ppl who generally hate most things and are just looking to whine, case and point the usual suspects in this thread who do the same in several threads.
    no they didn't, the show lost more viewers than watched it in total, just let that sink in, it lost so many people from the first episode airing than stuck around to watch the remaining episodes COMBINED, furthermore, a week after the season finale the show can't even stay in the top 10 most viewed shows listings, meaning that people hated it when it was airing, and nobody has bothered to go back and rewatch it because of how bad it is, as shown by all of the relevant data, but once again you make some asinine claim because you believe it to be right, while all available data says the opposite, honestly you're an embarrassment both you and Adamas with your pathetic sycophantism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogoth View Post
    no they didn't, the show lost more viewers than watched it in total, just let that sink in, it lost so many people from the first episode airing than stuck around to watch the remaining episodes COMBINED
    The show didn't lose a large number of viewers until after the season finale. The lowest it got during the season was 966. It then got up to nearly the same as the first two episodes for the season finale. This is using Nielsen numbers which is the most reliable number we've had. It is by the way still in the top 10 "original" category. 5th place to be exact. The overall includes acquired and movie. So it looks like Rings of Power would be 12th on the overall. It certainly fell off a cliff. A lot of shows do regardless of quality.

    The only numbers I couldn't find were for the week of episode 3. Those numbers from Nielsen don't match up with your claims. Do you have a link to other verified viewership trackers?

    Episode 1/2- 1,235
    Episode 3-
    Episode 4- 988
    Episode 5- 977
    Episode 6- 966
    Episode 7- 988
    Episode 8 -1,137
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    https://twitter.com/LiquidGuild/stat...VeVfQHWq1ONDBA

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenn9530 View Post
    The only one that needs help is yourself, because most ppl do think the show is good, that simple fact is backed up by all the data available, your opinion on the matter is not a fact, you need to accept the fact you have no authority on what constitutes as good or not, the show is good regardless of what your feelings are towards it.
    The only one that needs help is yourself, because most ppl do think the show is garbage that simple fact is backed up by all the data available, your opinion on the matter is not a fact, you need to accept the fact you have no authority on what constitutes as good or not, the show is bad regardless of what your feelings are towards it

    Also, the data:


    People think is shit, even if Amazon is boosting it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triceron View Post
    Do they talk about the slow motion horse riding scene?
    I rly want to know their meticulous missed how many elves where on a cave, it is 7, it is 8, it is 9? mystery box!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogoth View Post
    no they didn't, the show lost more viewers than watched it in total, just let that sink in, it lost so many people from the first episode airing than stuck around to watch the remaining episodes COMBINED, furthermore, a week after the season finale the show can't even stay in the top 10 most viewed shows listings, meaning that people hated it when it was airing, and nobody has bothered to go back and rewatch it because of how bad it is, as shown by all of the relevant data, but once again you make some asinine claim because you believe it to be right, while all available data says the opposite, honestly you're an embarrassment both you and Adamas with your pathetic sycophantism.
    The show has had 100 million viewers so far and it will increase even further, you have no evidence supporting anything you say since all the data proves you to be in the wrong as usual.

    The simple reality is more ppl like the show than dont like it, thats a fact you have yet to just accept because you cant face reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    The only one that needs help is yourself, because most ppl do think the show is garbage that simple fact is backed up by all the data available, your opinion on the matter is not a fact, you need to accept the fact you have no authority on what constitutes as good or not, the show is bad regardless



    I rly want to know their meticulous missed how many elves where on a cave, it is 7, it is 8, it is 9? mystery box!
    Most ppl dont think its bad, why does it have 100 million viewers, rotten tomatos does not help your case in the slightest lol, if you think that site is even remotely usuable then you really need some help, noone at all puts any stock into what RT has so you using it to back you up makes you lose even more credibility. If the show was bad is wouldnt have over 100 million viewers so far would it, the shows popularity spiked even further after the finale because these days ppl wait until a whole season is out to watch things now.

    The ppl who moan most are the most vocal so they should be ignored because thier views are tainted.

    You both have lost the argument over and over again because you are not who decides if a show is actually bad or not.

    Both you arguments come down to one thing your own opinion and thats it.
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    The simple reality is if Amazon is considering replacing the showrunners or reducing the their decision making on the show then it's because Amazon sees that something is very wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    The simple reality is if Amazon is considering replacing the showrunners or reducing the their decision making on the show then it's because Amazon sees that something is very wrong.
    Wait, did that happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenn9530 View Post
    The show has had 100 million viewers so far and it will increase even further, you have no evidence supporting anything you say since all the data proves you to be in the wrong as usual.

    The simple reality is more ppl like the show than dont like it, thats a fact you have yet to just accept because you cant face reality.

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    Most ppl dont think its bad, why does it have 100 million viewers, rotten tomatos does not help your case in the slightest lol, if you think that site is even remotely usuable then you really need some help, noone at all puts any stock into what RT has so you using it to back you up makes you lose even more credibility. If the show was bad is wouldnt have over 100 million viewers so far would it, the shows popularity spiked even further after the finale because these days ppl wait until a whole season is out to watch things now.

    The ppl who moan most are the most vocal so they should be ignored because thier views are tainted.

    You both have lost the argument over and over again because you are not who decides if a show is actually bad or not.

    Both you arguments come down to one thing your own opinion and thats it.
    Just because 100 million watched it doesn't mean 100 million enjoyed it. So far it has been recieved with mixed reviews. Amazon Prime has over 200 million subscribers, so out of their own audience, 50% were interested. This gives us 0 information on how many people the show actually attracted enough to bother subbing to prime.

    Also, more people like the show than don't like it is a rather big assumption on your part. You have nothing backing your claims, other than your opinion, dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltaker View Post
    Wait, did that happen?
    That Amazon was considering it?
    Yes.
    The current rumor is that they'll delay replacing the showrunners (or "demoting" them) to help bolster any chance at receiving an Emmy for the show.

    *shrugs
    We have a couple of years...we'll see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltaker View Post
    Wait, did that happen?
    It is an unconfirmed rumor. Some people try to pass it off as a fact or sure thing though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenn9530 View Post
    The simple fact is most viewers who watched the show liked it, that is proof the show is good that is not something you can deny, its not just me claiming its a good show, all the data available proves the show is good and the show has performed far better than most other shows available in such a short time, the only ones who hate it are ppl who generally hate most things and are just looking to whine, case and point the usual suspects in this thread who do the same in several threads.
    The data shows the show is popular, not necessarily good.

    Justin Bieber is/was very popular too. So we can conclude that “good” and “popular” are not necessarily congruent.

    Good and bad are ENTIRELY subjective though, so proof can not be given to substantiate either.

    Having read several other Tolkien works besides LotR/the hobbit, such as silmarillion, children of hurin, etc I do consider myself more informed than the average viewer, but I was well entertained. I especially loved Moria.

    I have my own criticisms (especially would’ve liked celebrimbor as more of a shadow of mordor badass) but I have a willingness to just see what the creators vision is. The books still exist, the movies still exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Veggie50 View Post
    Justin Bieber is/was very popular too. So we can conclude that “good” and “popular” are not necessarily congruent.
    He is a good singer. If you eat a recipe made by a talented chef you can tell it is good even if you don't like it. The show was good. It had a few great things and even fewer exceptional things. The problem is a lot of people in this thread have a problem with something being good when they don't like it. You see it when they exaggerate or can't acknowledge anything non-negative about the show. It doesn't impact the valid criticisms and short comings of the show to do so but they can't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    He is a good singer. If you eat a recipe made by a talented chef you can tell it is good even if you don't like it.
    You really haven't a clue what logic is do you?
    How talented a chef is isn't relevant. If it taste like shit, then it is shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    You really haven't a clue what logic is do you? How talented a chef is isn't relevant. If it taste like shit, then it is shit.
    Something can be good but not personally liked. It is possible to separate the two and acknowledge that a meal, painting, or other thing is good but not something your own personal taste finds to be good. For example a person doesn't like mushrooms. Every dish that has mushrooms isn't crap just because it has mushrooms. They can be good or bad even though that person won't like it because of the mushrooms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    Something can be good but not personally liked. It is possible to separate the two and acknowledge that a meal, painting, or other thing is good but not something your own personal taste finds to be good. For example a person doesn't like mushrooms. Every dish that has mushrooms isn't crap just because it has mushrooms. They can be good or bad even though that person won't like it because of the mushrooms.
    Except you can't call mushrooms good objectively. It is evaluated subjectively, and if someone doesn't like mushrooms then to them it is legitimately valid to call it bad, even if made by Gordon Ramsay himself. Thay is the whole point of subjectivity. A bad show does not mean universally bad, it means bad in the eyes of the person calling it bad. The only thing objectively good that you could define might be the quality of the product, but not in its taste or presentation. Even a talented chef can still end up making a burnt steak.

    And the talented chef analogy isn't very apt because you aren't evaluating the product, you are implying that you are judging it based on the merit of its creator. Do you think WC3 Reforged is a good game because it was made by Blizzard, a company known for hiring talented developers? They can still produce lackluster quality products despite their track record.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    Something can be good but not personally liked.
    As usual...moving the goalposts.

    If it looks like shit and smells like shit, then it's probably shit. Just because you grabbed a spoon and insist it's good just boggles the mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    As usual...moving the goalposts.
    What goal posts were moved? You originally took issue with me saying that something can be good but not personally liked. Hence why Justin Bieber is a good singer despite not being liked by a lot of people.
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