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[Triceron]

Is every single elve meant to be just a superior fighter and be expected to handle anything that they come across, the elves race is not much different to men they just have some benfits, are they also immune to getting tired or how do you even know these elves even have actual combat experience or even seen a troll to begin with, plenty of factors you have probably never even considered, only a small number of elves can be considered special.

It doesn't matter of they aren't or not. We have no information that implies Galadriel was experienced in fighting snow trolls while her troop were not, yet she still beat it fine while her troops could not do anything. That's all that matters.

If they were all tasked with finding Sauron, then if her troops can't even deal with a Snow Troll what use would they be in a fight with the actual big bad? Nothing, because they are only portrayed as being worthless and in your own explanation, inexperienced.

[kenn9530]

It doesn't matter of they aren't or not. We have no information that implies Galadriel was experienced in fighting snow trolls while her troop were not, yet she still beat it fine while her troops could not do anything. That's all that matters.

If they were all tasked with finding Sauron, then if her troops can't even deal with a Snow Troll what use would they be in a fight with the actual big bad? Nothing, because they are only portrayed as being worthless and in your own explanation, inexperienced.

Galadriel is one of the special elves that are superior to other normal elves, she wants revenge for her brother so she has had plenty of motivation to become a superior fighter to many other elves, the other elve soldiers are just normal elves as far as we know. Elves can get knocked down and die just as easy as the race of men.

It was a task she herself took upon and just dragged anyone who would follow with them, they had been doing this for what hundreds of years and many who did follow went back home, it has nothing to do with actually beating sauron because it would take an army not a small force to even have a chance to begin with, not all soldiers are going to be experienced in battle and they were shown to be pretty much exhausted before the troll appeared, your expectations on the elve race is far too high.

[Syegfryed]

ah yes, she want revenge for her alive brother, this joke keeps giving.

She being "special" is not an excuse for the elite task force that went serching for sauron, and fight him if need be, to be this weak and worthless.

[kenn9530]

ah yes, she want revenge for her alive brother, this joke keeps giving.

She being "special" is not an excuse for the elite task force that went serching for sauron, and fight him if need be, to be this weak and worthless.

And where did they ever say it was an elite force, looking for something and actually fighting is two completely different things, a whole army of elves would stand little or no chance to defeat sauron on his own let alone a small scouting party, just takes a little bit of thought to actually understand things just a little.

Elves are only a little bit different to the race of men, stop putting them on a pedestal because of your mistaken expectations.

[Syegfryed]

And where did they ever say it was an elite force, looking for something and actually fighting is two completely different things, a whole army of elves would stand little or no chance to defeat sauron on his own let alone a small scouting party, just takes a little bit of thought to actually understand things just a little.

That just make her even more stupid to think she can take him on, if an army can't

but well, being bright is not a character trait of hers, since she fully aware of it, jump from the ship miles away from middle earth, trying to swim there, knowing for a fact it was impossible and knowing she was going for - her words - certain death

It's amazing how people try to explain it, it gets even more absurd and nonsensical, the only way to watch this is if you take away your brain

[Skulltaker]

Elves are only a little bit different to the race of men, stop putting them on a pedestal because of your mistaken expectations.

Ahm, wrong. Elves are, on average, considerably better than Men at everything. They also don't require sleep, can walk over snow, leave no traces if they chose so, craft objects with such immense quality that they appear to be magical to other folk...

The average Elf will run circles around trained men and beat them in combat every time. It's something the movies got wrong as well.

[kenn9530]

Ahm, wrong. Elves are, on average, considerably better than Men at everything. They also don't require sleep, can walk over snow, leave no traces if they chose so, craft objects with such immense quality that they appear to be magical to other folk...

The average Elf will run circles around trained men and beat them in combat every time. It's something the movies got wrong as well.

Not all elves are exectional, its nowhere in the lore all elves are clearly better at everything, they are stronger, more agile and dont die from normal means, creating powerful objects is just from living so long they can master techniques, it doesnt make them so much better than everyone else that a trained man couldnt kill an elve 1v1.

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That just make her even more stupid to think she can take him on, if an army can't

but well, being bright is not a character trait of hers, since she fully aware of it, jump from the ship miles away from middle earth, trying to swim there, knowing for a fact it was impossible and knowing she was going for - her words - certain death

It's amazing how people try to explain it, it gets even more absurd and nonsensical, the only way to watch this is if you take away your brain

The usual thing with revenge is you do it regardless of chances of success, she is willing to accept death if she is unable to get her revenge its the basic concept of seeking revenge against a powerful enemy.

[Syegfryed]

The usual thing with revenge is you do it regardless of chances of success, she is willing to accept death if she is unable to get her revenge its the basic concept of seeking revenge against a powerful enemy.

That is dumb, the usual thing with revenge is that you actually have chances, or you make your own

And again, her revenge is pointless because her brother is alive, in the place she refused to go in the very first episode

her motivations and reasons are nonsensical and artificial as they had to break down the lore to pretend it works, but she ultimately ignores her other two brothers and her own husband.

[Ophenia]

but she ultimately ignores her other two brothers and her own husband.

Noooo she "lost" her husband, like she lost him in the supermarket or whatever

[Skulltaker]

Not all elves are exectional, its nowhere in the lore all elves are clearly better at everything, they are stronger, more agile and dont die from normal means, creating powerful objects is just from living so long they can master techniques, it doesnt make them so much better than everyone else that a trained man couldnt kill an elve 1v1.

Yes, they are. Elves are more akin to the Ainur than to Men.

[Triceron]

Galadriel is one of the special elves that are superior to other normal elves, she wants revenge for her brother so she has had plenty of motivation to become a superior fighter to many other elves, the other elve soldiers are just normal elves as far as we know. Elves can get knocked down and die just as easy as the race of men.

lol. You're so full of shit dude. Like, if you're just gonna make shit up, you could at least make it funny. This is just sadness.

Galadriel's strengths are a product of the writing, and the writing is too obvious in its goal of making her superior to the other Elves, to the point of making them absolutely inferior and incompetent. Galadriel wins against the Troll because she has plot armor and is a named character, whereas every other trooper is nameless. It's unapologetically driven by tropes.

[Xath]

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7631058...?ref_=tt_ov_rt

If you eliminate 10's and 1's, to remove potential bias, more appear to like the show then dislike it. 40.8% for 6-9 and 15.6% for 2-5.

You do understand that most people treat ratings as a grading system right? A 7 is not a good show a 6 is unwatchable trash.

[rhorle]

You do understand that most people treat ratings as a grading system right? A 7 is not a good show a 6 is unwatchable trash.

Okay then if we throw out 6 (the "real" lowest rating) and 10's it still show's that 11.1% loved it (9). 14.1% thought it was average (8). 9.8% though it was not a good show. It still shows that people liked it based on the ratings on IMDB.

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Yes, they are. Elves are more akin to the Ainur than to Men.

Not all elves are of equal skill levels though. Doesn't Legolas also state that Aragorn and Boromir are stronger but he is lighter and quicker? Tolkien never really made absolute statements of skill for entire races. So in a 1v1 an elf might not always win. The time the fight took place would matter as well. As elves were growing weaker while men were growing stronger in comparison.

[kenn9530]

That is dumb, the usual thing with revenge is that you actually have chances, or you make your own

And again, her revenge is pointless because her brother is alive, in the place she refused to go in the very first episode

her motivations and reasons are nonsensical and artificial as they had to break down the lore to pretend it works, but she ultimately ignores her other two brothers and her own husband.

In a normal world maybe but not when it involves fantasty with characters with immense power, revenge is not logical or supposed to make sense, it wouldnt matter if her brother is alive or dead, she knows he did die in battle so it doesnt matter what you think just because you have knowledge the characters wouldnt have.

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lol. You're so full of shit dude. Like, if you're just gonna make shit up, you could at least make it funny. This is just sadness.

Galadriel's strengths are a product of the writing, and the writing is too obvious in its goal of making her superior to the other Elves, to the point of making them absolutely inferior and incompetent. Galadriel wins against the Troll because she has plot armor and is a named character, whereas every other trooper is nameless. It's unapologetically driven by tropes.

Just because you cant accept reality that most elves are not really that special doesnt change the simple facts, in the films it took a whole party to kill just one troll, a group of normal elves would still struggle against such an enemy, you have nothing to back you up claiming elves should be able to easily deal with many such enemies.

[kenn9530]

Yes, they are. Elves are more akin to the Ainur than to Men.

All they have is immortality with no natural death, a bit more strength, agility and a few other benefits, some men are known to have more strength than an elve, so they are only a little special compared to other races, they are not guaranteed to win a fight with a skilled soldier of men, they die just as easy as anyone else.

[Askyl]

Yes, they are. Elves are more akin to the Ainur than to Men.

Tolkien says men and elves are so alike they didnt seem much different.

You say they are so different elves are more like another race.

Who to trust??!??! /s

[Xath]

Okay then if we throw out 6 (the "real" lowest rating) and 10's it still show's that 11.1% loved it (9). 14.1% thought it was average (8). 9.8% though it was not a good show. It still shows that people liked it based on the ratings on IMDB.

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Not all elves are of equal skill levels though. Doesn't Legolas also state that Aragorn and Boromir are stronger but he is lighter and quicker? Tolkien never really made absolute statements of skill for entire races. So in a 1v1 an elf might not always win. The time the fight took place would matter as well. As elves were growing weaker while men were growing stronger in comparison.

Lol you can't throw out up to 6 because a lot of people do believe it is unwatchable trash. You want to throw out more than 1 and 10 you throw out 2 and 9 and anything 6 and below would mean unlikeable 7 mediocre 8 good.

[rhorle]

Lol you can't throw out up to 6 because a lot of people do believe it is unwatchable trash. You want to throw out more than 1 and 10 you throw out 2 and 9 and anything 6 and below would mean unlikeable 7 mediocre 8 good.

So in other words you'll keep redefining the ratings until it fits the narrative you want.

[Xath]

So in other words you'll keep redefining the ratings until it fits the narrative you want.

One of us literally does market research as part of their job and knows how people in general especially Americans rate things on both 10 and 5 point scales. It isn't you.

[rhorle]

One of us literally does market research as part of their job and knows how people in general especially Americans rate things on both 10 and 5 point scales. It isn't you.

So? You are allowing for only 1 good rating, 1 mediocre, and 4 utter trash ratings. It doesn't matter if you know Americans or market research better. What matters is you are only allowing for a scale that fits your narrative. Majority of the IMDB ratings come from non-US users (226,090 of 290,238). Non-US only differs by 0.2 at 6.9 overall rating.