Lord of the Rings TV Series Purchased by Amazon

[Lorgar Aurelian]

There is no mail armor, is printed. LUL

Doesn't even looked printed at a glance.

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/pj...20220925114155

[Fabinas]

Classic PR message from a leaving actor. If it was posted to prove something, it certainly does not. And that goes for both sides of the argument.

[kenn9530]

Your forum experience will be much better with dishonest people like kenn on your ignore list. LOTR has sold over 100 million copies over literal decades and that doesn't happen if it isn't popular.

It only sold that many after the films release, you are claiming someone is dishonest when you cant even do the research that proves most sales were after the films release, the films added another 125 million sales of the books between 2001 and 2007, as usual you are posting the completely wrong information.

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There is nothing that makes the show look good, and the amount of tweets or minutes watching sure as well is no metric to say if it was a success or not when lesser shows get the double, the engagement is shit and people only talk about to make fun of it.

The show could make millions, and still would be a massive failure since they wasted a billion

With 100 million viewers they have already made back all the money spent on the series, the show will continue to generate even more revenue for them, the show is good simply because more ppl like it than dont, your opinion is not going to change the simple reality.

[Syegfryed]

With 100 million viewers they have already made back all the money spent on the series,

You think because it have 100 million views, it was able to make back 1 billion

OF course, you have data to back up that statement

[Triceron]

Classic PR message from a leaving actor. If it was posted to prove something, it certainly does not. And that goes for both sides of the argument.

What are you even looking to argue here? He just posted the actors tweet?

[rhorle]

You think because it have 100 million views, it was able to make back 1 billion OF course, you have data to back up that statement

100 million users on a Prime yearly plan ($139) earns Amazon 14 billion a year.
100 million users on a Prime monthly plan ($14.99) earns Amazon 1.5 billion a month.
100 million users on a Prime Video monthly plan ($8.99) earns Amazon 899 million a month.

The show went for two months so any month subscriptions would be earned twice if it was just for the show. Of course the "real" earnings is complicated because it isn't all new sign ups. All but the Prime Video plan goes to other things as well. The streaming platforms all use their own internal metrics for when content "earns" enough. Since we know that Rings of Power broke records for sign ups it is clear that it likely will be seen as earning its keep.

[Snowfunk]

Roflmao.

Absolutely brilliant.

[Syegfryed]

100 million users on a Prime yearly plan ($139) earns Amazon 14 billion a year.
100 million users on a Prime monthly plan ($14.99) earns Amazon 1.5 billion a month.
100 million users on a Prime Video monthly plan ($8.99) earns Amazon 899 million a month.

The show went for two months so any month subscriptions would be earned twice if it was just for the show. Of course the "real" earnings is complicated because it isn't all new sign ups. All but the Prime Video plan goes to other things as well. The streaming platforms all use their own internal metrics for when content "earns" enough. Since we know that Rings of Power broke records for sign ups it is clear that it likely will be seen as earning its keep.

This isn't all new signs ups, and no, its not earning its keep, you forget it have to pay for ton of shit besides rings of diarrhea budget, like other shows by example.

And how oP 'broke records for sign up?" how can you even say someone subscribed for prime just for it? 100% people who watched were the ones already subscribed, in fact i believe more people unsub because of it.

[rhorle]

And how oP 'broke records for sign up?" how can you even say someone subscribed for prime just for it? 100% people who watched were the ones already subscribed, in fact i believe more people unsub because of it.

So Amazon can't have ways to track how people engage their platforms and what they do, but you know that 100% of the people that watched the show were already subscribed? Lmao.

[Khaza-R]

Amazon hasn't posted their prime subs recently at all. Mostly people suspect because of competition from Walmart + has caused a significant dent in their market share.

The idea they added millions of prime subs from this show is both hilarious and beyond fucking moronic.

[rhorle]

Amazon hasn't posted their prime subs recently at all. Mostly people suspect because of competition from Walmart + has caused a significant dent in their market share.

Jeff Bezos announced that Amazon Prime had more than 200 million subscribers. That was Q1 2021 so not even a year ago. It is strange how some say that Lord of the Rings is super popular yet others say that it couldn't have driven a lot of people to sign up to a service to watch it.

[Syegfryed]

So Amazon can't have ways to track how people engage their platforms and what they do, but you know that 100% of the people that watched the show were already subscribed? Lmao.

Of course they have ways, it's cute that you think will be truthful and not manipulate things to look cool

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Jeff Bezos announced that Amazon Prime had more than 200 million subscribers. That was Q1 2021 so not even a year ago.

So you ar saying unironically, that people subscribed in 2021 with the intent to watch rings of power, lmao.

It is strange how some say that Lord of the Rings is super popular yet others say that it couldn't have driven a lot of people to sign up to a service to watch it.

They would, if it ws good, but it was garbage. After catching some fools its hardly enough to make up for what they invested on it.

[Triceron]

Jeff Bezos announced that Amazon Prime had more than 200 million subscribers. That was Q1 2021 so not even a year ago. It is strange how some say that Lord of the Rings is super popular yet others say that it couldn't have driven a lot of people to sign up to a service to watch it.

Unless you have the data on how many of those subs are actually watching the show or subbed to watch, I don:t see what the relevancy is here.

[Fabinas]

What on earth would I even be trying to prove? Lol I merely added an actor's own words as to his reasoning for leaving. Anything beyond what he said is unfounded conjecture.

It says NOTHING about his reasoning to leave. It's just a "thank you" PR tweet, with a generic comment about an actor exploring new characters and worlds.

Anything beyond what he said is a possibility. Unfounded? Probably. Conjecture? Sure, but since there was no "other show", "prior commitment", "wanna spend time with my family" etc reasons, any conjecture is still a possibility and as such, it can't be dismissed.

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What are you even looking to argue here? He just posted the actors tweet?

He explained why and the tweet is nothing like he presents it to be. Read above.

[Kumorii]

So you ar saying unironically, that people subscribed in 2021 with the intent to watch rings of power, lmao.

If 200 million are subscribed and 100 million watched it, that means 50% didn't watch it even when it's "free".

All these numbers getting thrown around means very little, we don't know how many subscribed to watch it, we don't know how many watched it just because, we don't know how many stopped subscribing because of it either...
These numbers can be interpreted in any angle really.

Which is why when companies spout numbers, they often leave out context... because numbers in of themselves look good, but they are worthless without context.

[rhorle]

So you ar saying unironically, that people subscribed in 2021 with the intent to watch rings of power, lmao.

Where did I say or even imply that?

[Xath]

Jeff Bezos announced that Amazon Prime had more than 200 million subscribers. That was Q1 2021 so not even a year ago. It is strange how some say that Lord of the Rings is super popular yet others say that it couldn't have driven a lot of people to sign up to a service to watch it.

Because this isn't LoTR and it was super obvious once interviews started and from what was being pushed that it was largely going to ignore Tolkien's work and would use it as a thin veneer to push the story the showrunners wanted to tell. That would be fine except the showrunners had basically zero experience and certainly none writing high fantasy and it was extremely obvious very early on.

[Skulltaker]

If 200 million are subscribed and 100 million watched it, that means 50% didn't watch it even when it's "free".

It's even less than that. While technically against the TOS, Prime subs are often shared over several households (just like other streaming services)

100 million views doesn't equal 100 million accounts that watched the series. It's probably more people that watched it, but significantly less active subs. For the 9 people I know personally that watched the series, only one active prime account was used, divided over 3 households, so one sub accounts for 3 complete viewings of the series. I doubt that that is representative, but it's pretty safe to say that drastically less than 100 million accounts actually streamed RoP.

[kenn9530]

You think because it have 100 million views, it was able to make back 1 billion

OF course, you have data to back up that statement

100 million views is 100 million active subs paying to watch the content, the sub cost from amazon prime has made all the money back they have spent on RoP so far and a enough to fund it a few more time, also the show has not cost them 1 billion yet not until the second season has been completed at least, the cost is around 49 million per episode.

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100 million views doesn't equal 100 million accounts that watched the series. It's probably more people that watched it, but significantly less active subs. For the 9 people I know personally that watched the series, only one active prime account was used, divided over 3 households, so one sub accounts for 3 complete viewings of the series. I doubt that that is representative, but it's pretty safe to say that drastically less than 100 million accounts actually streamed RoP.

Its 100 million viewers so thats 100 million seperate ppl at least watching the show, amazon prime subs are over 200 million so that generates plenty money to make new tv shows which inturn keeps more ppl subscribed to the platform, you need to spend money to make money.

[Skulltaker]

100 million views is 100 million active subs paying to watch the content, the sub cost from amazon prime has made all the money back they have spent on RoP so far and a enough to fund it a few more time, also the show has not cost them 1 billion yet not until the second season has been completed at least, the cost is around 49 million per episode.

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Its 100 million viewers so thats 100 million seperate ppl at least watching the show, amazon prime subs are over 200 million so that generates plenty money to make new tv shows which inturn keeps more ppl subscribed to the platform, you need to spend money to make money.

First of all, no, 100 million viewers is not 100 million active subs. And Amazon has no way of knowing how many people actually watched the show, because you can't tell if there's one person in front of the TV, or 100. I broke that down in the post you quoted, but I guess you're not doing so well with numbers. My teaching days are behind me, so excuse me if I don't take you for a tour of basic math.

Even if you're being generous with the numbers, Amazon lost hundreds of millions of Dollars on that show so far, which they probably knew from the start. Making money was never the goal, it was broadening the audience. Unless they release sub counts from pre and post ROP, we'll not know if they achieved it. I doubt it, though.