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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    The entire spartan mind set is an example of chauvinism and is an example of masculine traits taken to a toxic extreme, Kratos notable abadnon's said Spartan mind set after leaving Greece and takes up new principles to raise his son by.

    He is in no way the same character trough and trough and its laughable that any one would think that.
    Him changing his bad behaviours does not mean he is not the same characters, we are talking about his masculinity, Kratos IS a masculine character, and that was not tone down, what was taken away was his male chauvinist trait, which i talked about ealier
    Zeus start's to plot against him at the end of ghost of Sparta after he sinks alantas and kills Thanatos, In ghost of Sparta he was still trying to get Kratos to side with the gods which he instead starting antagonizing which leads directly into 2 where Athena try's to get him to see reason and stop destroying city's and angering the gods.
    Literally proving my point, Zeus was already aware of him before, do you realize he was the one who put a curse on this mother? Zeus wanted undying loyalty like Hercules, but this doesn't not mean he was not plotting against him already. Zeus was the worse,

    It is the most comfort he's gonna get and getting better would never be easy he had every thing he needed to achieve it with no revenge crusade no actual enemies and a new "family".

    instead he falls back on violence and antagonizes the god's by destroying there city's.
    Because the gods themselves took his mother and brother and refuse to free him from his nightmares, lmao, you keep forgetting this little detail


    I would love to derail the thread more with you, but this is my last reply, get the last post, and pretend that you "won" something, when you clearly don't get the character at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    when you clearly don't get the character at all.
    One of us surely doesn’t.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    yes and I’d say the same thing about you as you apparently missed all the themes and messaging beyond “RAWR REVENGE”

    it’s not every woman, it’s every woman he has a chance to, and ya it is problematic as it’s one of the many Many examples of Kratos’S degeneration as he only see people as thing to use or things to kill with the gameplay even reinforcing this by turning it into a mini game.

    Kratos doesn’t see the woman he sleeps with as people any more then he does the woman he crushes to keep open a door they are just something to use and move on from which is very toxically masculine and is a mind set kratos has until near the end of 3 where he actually starts to see Pandora as a person even though he fails her due to his rage.



    Kratos is seen as a hero after the first game and given a place among the gods and a ton of support, he uses that to pick up where ares a left off which leads to a new revenge crusade.

    While the gods couldn’t free him from his trauma they did give him the opportunity to move beyond it something we know he was capable of doing even if he can never be fully free of it.


    you really are this stupid aren’t you?

    Even if we ignore that ghost of Sparta and chains of Olympus are both about saving some one dear To him and not vengeance the main line games give Kratos tons of opportunity‘s to express him self in other ways then violence rather it be not killing his allies, avoiding murder for the sake of expedience or not picking unneeded fights and always taking them to there extremes.

    Kratos destroys Greece not because of his revenge but because of the things he does to get in and how unneeded so much of it is.

    it’s almost like his life Carried into GoW 2018 and him not knowing what to do with his son in that game is because of his previous experiences.

    changing him from questionably brown to a harder tone wouldn’t be an issue at all, no matter what they do people are gonna complain about how he used to be a white character even though he never was.

    Kratos being the “ghost” of Sparta has no thematic importance to his character for most of his games, it’s just a cool title that imparts nothing about the character other then the bone white skin and could be replaced with another fitting one.

    And of course ashes don't only come in bond white they could have easily gone with his original black design and change nothing about his story and it would still make sense. Though im of course talking about his pre ash skin colour not mattering if it’s changed the white ashe should stay.


    sign.

    I said give him his daughter first for a time not to change his son to a daughter.

    Calliope should always come before Atreus no matter how they are adapting it rather it be the first episode being about Greece and his before flashing forward for the rest of the show or it be a whole series about the Greece they should never jump into Atreus with out first show casing Kratos losing Calliope.
    Ah yes consensual sex definitely means that the woman have it worse than the hundred of disposable males he cuts in half and in some cases quite literally rips in half throughout the series. He is an anti-hero he is never an actual hero maybe in the newest ones but not before that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kumorii View Post
    Amazon is going for God of War next. Same showrunner as Wheel of Time.

    https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/god...on-1235460972/

    Maybe the involvement of Santa Monica, Sony and Playstation might be the saving grace?
    It's dead on arrival if it's another rafe of time trash show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xath View Post
    Ah yes consensual sex definitely means that the woman have it worse than the hundred of disposable males he cuts in half and in some cases quite literally rips in half throughout the series. He is an anti-hero he is never an actual hero maybe in the newest ones but not before that.
    *yawn*

    The whole of my post is about Kratos and his mind set, so you can miss me with any thing about any one having it worse as it’s something I never brought up or addressed.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    *yawn*

    The whole of my post is about Kratos and his mind set, so you can miss me with any thing about any one having it worse as it’s something I never brought up or addressed.
    Kratos mindset is that nobody matters at least until the most recent one. He is purely driven by vengeance towards the gods and what they made him do you however had to single a group out rather than realizing the dude is just a straight up misanthrope who sees everyone as disposable until the most recent 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xath View Post
    Kratos mindset is that nobody matters at least until the most recent one. He is purely driven by vengeance towards the gods and what they made him do you however had to single a group out rather than realizing the dude is just a straight up misanthrope who sees everyone as disposable until the most recent 2.
    Again you can miss me, I didn't single out any group in my post I explicitly went over how he interacts with people through violence which applies not exclusively but mostly to men.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

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    https://deadline.com/2022/12/lotr-th...al-1235201384/

    Vernon Sanders, the head of global TV for Amazon Studios, recently did an interview. It confirms, again, that the show was a success for Amazon. Some talk of Season 2, Season 3, and recasting.
    "Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    https://deadline.com/2022/12/lotr-th...al-1235201384/

    Vernon Sanders, the head of global TV for Amazon Studios, recently did an interview. It confirms, again, that the show was a success for Amazon. Some talk of Season 2, Season 3, and recasting.
    I know when I think of successful seasons they are usually followed immediately by recasting and basically changing all the directors :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xath View Post
    I know when I think of successful seasons they are usually followed immediately by recasting and basically changing all the directors :P
    Did you read the interview? Or did you just hate for the sake of it yet again? He explains that sometimes things don't work out with actors and it is a potential downside of having a lot of important roles. It broke several records for the prime platform, drove sign up in high-income households and the young demographic. It also drove high number of sales of the books on Amazon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    https://deadline.com/2022/12/lotr-th...al-1235201384/

    Vernon Sanders, the head of global TV for Amazon Studios, recently did an interview. It confirms, again, that the show was a success for Amazon. Some talk of Season 2, Season 3, and recasting.
    ah yes, the dude of amazon said his shit smelled good.

    That sure is a confirmation, totally not damage control and pretending. He sure is truthful, no biases here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    ah yes, the dude of amazon said his shit smelled good.

    That sure is a confirmation, totally not damage control and pretending. He sure is truthful, no biases here.
    Yup, executives at publicly traded companies are renowned for lying about the financial successes of their projects, they definitely don't err on the side of truth due to the legal ramifications of lying to investors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    ah yes, the dude of amazon said his shit smelled good.
    So if it is something good about the show it is automatically a lie? It is so strange how crazy some of you act in regards to "good" news about the show. If it is bad news you'd eat it up with out question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhrizzle View Post
    Yup, executives at publicly traded companies are renowned for lying about the financial successes of their projects, they definitely don't err on the side of truth due to the legal ramifications of lying to investors.
    they are not lying to investors, they are lying to the public, is damage control, he says the same shit other people did before him, viewes of first episode, minutes watched, is a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    So if it is something good about the show it is automatically a lie? It is so strange how crazy some of you act in regards to "good" news about the show. If it is bad news you'd eat it up with out question.
    again, same thing, nothing here is new. its saying the same thing again.

    The only thing you could say is new is the show being so awful it made people buy the book more lmao, but we already knew that too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    again, same thing, nothing here is new. its saying the same thing again.
    There was new information in the interview as it talks a little about demographic and income levels of viewers and season 2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    they are not lying to investors, they are lying to the public, is damage control, he says the same shit other people did before him, viewes of first episode, minutes watched, is a joke.
    Your forgetting the important metric - people who signed up to Amazon Prime and then watched the series. Remember Amazon isn't really a streaming service. It's an online shop and Amazon Prime is really its delivery subscription service. If they can show correlation between a series releasing, people subscribing and watching the series and those people then going on to spend money in the shop then the show is a success.

    Also lying to the public is lying to investors with a publicly traded company. Existing investors and analysts will decide on the value of Amazon based on the things that are said to the public. Members of the public may choose to invest in Amazon based on the things that are said to the public. Executives can't come out and outright lie about those details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhrizzle View Post
    Your forgetting the important metric - people who signed up to Amazon Prime and then watched the series. Remember Amazon isn't really a streaming service. It's an online shop and Amazon Prime is really its delivery subscription service. If they can show correlation between a series releasing, people subscribing and watching the series and those people then going on to spend money in the shop then the show is a success.
    They think, they are doing a correlation here, pretending the "number increase" because of the show

    They don't prove that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhrizzle View Post
    Your forgetting the important metric - people who signed up to Amazon Prime and then watched the series. Remember Amazon isn't really a streaming service. It's an online shop and Amazon Prime is really its delivery subscription service. If they can show correlation between a series releasing, people subscribing and watching the series and those people then going on to spend money in the shop then the show is a success.
    They think, they are doing a correlation here, pretending the "number increase" because of the show

    They don't prove that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    They think, they are doing a correlation here, pretending the "number increase" because of the show
    What proof would you accept though? What do you think actually drove the increased sales of Lord of the Rings during the same period the show came out? What do you think drove sign ups and views of rings of power if it wasn't actually the show?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhrizzle View Post
    Yup, executives at publicly traded companies are renowned for lying about the financial successes of their projects, they definitely don't err on the side of truth due to the legal ramifications of lying to investors.
    it's genuinely cute and funny you think that this has any bearing on a company the size and scope of Amazon, because of the borderline slavery they get away with daily and have done now for many years they now have more money than some of the top 10 GDP countries in the world, breaking the law is just a cost of business, one that is weighed up during risk assessment, if it's financially and reputationally acceptable to break the law, they will do so without batting an eye, if it costs more financially or reputationally to break the law than the outright cost of fines etc, then they won't it's as binary as that, but you keep telling yourself that the rule of law dissuades these cunts from acting anything other than virtuously, if that's what helps you sleep at night.

    every single publicly trade company has and always will tout the laws of the land they operate in for more financial and power gain, don't kid yourself into thinking that the law has any meaningful power to challenge these companies in the current day, furthermore, the way the corrupt and broken US of A is set up, no politician, no judge/prosecutor will ever get a day in court with any meaningful charge because of the sheer amount of rubble that will bury any such case, because let me repeat in case it wasn't clear to you, Amazon has more money than every single nation on earth outside of the G7, that means there's only 7 nations on this planet with a higher total capital value than Amazon, if that's not fucking broken then i don't know what is.


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    Gotta love that a show some people don't like not failing as hard as they want it to apparently means we live in deus ex or cyberpunk where companies can do what ever they like and are untouchable by governments.

    lol.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

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    Gotta love the people in copium, with the massive failure of a billion dollar show, its not even because you liked, but because other people disliked.
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