Lord of the Rings TV Series Purchased by Amazon

[Dhrizzle]

ah yes, the dude of amazon said his shit smelled good.

That sure is a confirmation, totally not damage control and pretending. He sure is truthful, no biases here.

Yup, executives at publicly traded companies are renowned for lying about the financial successes of their projects, they definitely don't err on the side of truth due to the legal ramifications of lying to investors.

[rhorle]

ah yes, the dude of amazon said his shit smelled good.

So if it is something good about the show it is automatically a lie? It is so strange how crazy some of you act in regards to "good" news about the show. If it is bad news you'd eat it up with out question.

[Syegfryed]

Yup, executives at publicly traded companies are renowned for lying about the financial successes of their projects, they definitely don't err on the side of truth due to the legal ramifications of lying to investors.

they are not lying to investors, they are lying to the public, is damage control, he says the same shit other people did before him, viewes of first episode, minutes watched, is a joke.

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So if it is something good about the show it is automatically a lie? It is so strange how crazy some of you act in regards to "good" news about the show. If it is bad news you'd eat it up with out question.

again, same thing, nothing here is new. its saying the same thing again.

The only thing you could say is new is the show being so awful it made people buy the book more lmao, but we already knew that too.

[rhorle]

again, same thing, nothing here is new. its saying the same thing again.

There was new information in the interview as it talks a little about demographic and income levels of viewers and season 2.

[Dhrizzle]

they are not lying to investors, they are lying to the public, is damage control, he says the same shit other people did before him, viewes of first episode, minutes watched, is a joke.

Your forgetting the important metric - people who signed up to Amazon Prime and then watched the series. Remember Amazon isn't really a streaming service. It's an online shop and Amazon Prime is really its delivery subscription service. If they can show correlation between a series releasing, people subscribing and watching the series and those people then going on to spend money in the shop then the show is a success.

Also lying to the public is lying to investors with a publicly traded company. Existing investors and analysts will decide on the value of Amazon based on the things that are said to the public. Members of the public may choose to invest in Amazon based on the things that are said to the public. Executives can't come out and outright lie about those details.

[Syegfryed]

Your forgetting the important metric - people who signed up to Amazon Prime and then watched the series. Remember Amazon isn't really a streaming service. It's an online shop and Amazon Prime is really its delivery subscription service. If they can show correlation between a series releasing, people subscribing and watching the series and those people then going on to spend money in the shop then the show is a success.

They think, they are doing a correlation here, pretending the "number increase" because of the show

They don't prove that

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Your forgetting the important metric - people who signed up to Amazon Prime and then watched the series. Remember Amazon isn't really a streaming service. It's an online shop and Amazon Prime is really its delivery subscription service. If they can show correlation between a series releasing, people subscribing and watching the series and those people then going on to spend money in the shop then the show is a success.

They think, they are doing a correlation here, pretending the "number increase" because of the show

They don't prove that

[rhorle]

They think, they are doing a correlation here, pretending the "number increase" because of the show

What proof would you accept though? What do you think actually drove the increased sales of Lord of the Rings during the same period the show came out? What do you think drove sign ups and views of rings of power if it wasn't actually the show?

[rogoth]

Yup, executives at publicly traded companies are renowned for lying about the financial successes of their projects, they definitely don't err on the side of truth due to the legal ramifications of lying to investors.

it's genuinely cute and funny you think that this has any bearing on a company the size and scope of Amazon, because of the borderline slavery they get away with daily and have done now for many years they now have more money than some of the top 10 GDP countries in the world, breaking the law is just a cost of business, one that is weighed up during risk assessment, if it's financially and reputationally acceptable to break the law, they will do so without batting an eye, if it costs more financially or reputationally to break the law than the outright cost of fines etc, then they won't it's as binary as that, but you keep telling yourself that the rule of law dissuades these cunts from acting anything other than virtuously, if that's what helps you sleep at night.

every single publicly trade company has and always will tout the laws of the land they operate in for more financial and power gain, don't kid yourself into thinking that the law has any meaningful power to challenge these companies in the current day, furthermore, the way the corrupt and broken US of A is set up, no politician, no judge/prosecutor will ever get a day in court with any meaningful charge because of the sheer amount of rubble that will bury any such case, because let me repeat in case it wasn't clear to you, Amazon has more money than every single nation on earth outside of the G7, that means there's only 7 nations on this planet with a higher total capital value than Amazon, if that's not fucking broken then i don't know what is.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Gotta love that a show some people don't like not failing as hard as they want it to apparently means we live in deus ex or cyberpunk where companies can do what ever they like and are untouchable by governments.

lol.

[Syegfryed]

Gotta love the people in copium, with the massive failure of a billion dollar show, its not even because you liked, but because other people disliked.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Gotta love the people in copium, with the massive failure of a billion dollar show, its not even because you liked, but because other people disliked.

The lack of self awareness, lol.

Your the one coping because of dislike saying any and all info they put out must be lies because it doesn't agree with you.

[Skulltaker]

What proof would you accept though? What do you think actually drove the increased sales of Lord of the Rings during the same period the show came out? What do you think drove sign ups and views of rings of power if it wasn't actually the show?

Hard numbers, for example. Literally, nothing he says in the interview gives you any idea of how well the show did. Go through the answers step by step and you'll see that he avoids giving definitive answers. Which is normal for a corporate guy, of course.

[crusadernero]

Lets be honest, the show was shite. It was carried by hardcore fans(like me) and a lot of copium. And, lets not forget, a chance to fill the hole GoT left behind.

There was always a thought "this will get better" throughout the show. By the final episode, I was so dissapointed.

A grand chance thrown away.

The only good thing about it was the visuals. Beyond that, pure horrorshow.

[Syegfryed]

Lets be honest, the show was shite. It was carried by hardcore fans(like me) and a lot of copium. .

I rly doubt any fan liked this.

[Dhrizzle]

Gotta love that a show some people don't like not failing as hard as they want it to apparently means we live in deus ex or cyberpunk where companies can do what ever they like and are untouchable by governments.

lol.

People really wanted the show to be a lot worse than it is and to absolutely tank, they're reaching QAnon levels of reality denying now that it's turned out to be half-decent and really successful.

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Hard numbers, for example. Literally, nothing he says in the interview gives you any idea of how well the show did. Go through the answers step by step and you'll see that he avoids giving definitive answers. Which is normal for a corporate guy, of course.

One of the first paragraphs is literally a summary of the hard figures the assessment is based on

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I rly doubt any fan liked this.

And you're wrong.

[crusadernero]

I rly doubt any fan liked this.

Fans liked it before it aired. Now? Not so much. I bet alot of LoTR fans also saw the whole season out of a glimmer of hope.

[Skulltaker]

One of the first paragraphs is literally a summary of the hard figures the assessment is based on

I'm sorry, did we read different interviews? The only hard figure in this entire thing is the cost of 465 million USD. Other than that, you only get the usual PR talk without any context, which makes it all rather worthless.

[Syegfryed]

People really wanted the show to be a lot worse than it is and to absolutely tank, they're reaching QAnon levels of reality denying now that it's turned out to be half-decent and really successful.

Lmao talking bout denying reality, "show is half-decent"

And you're wrong.

I was talking bout fans, not superfans, like the one amazon hired to advertise the show, i know they loved.

They didn't watched, but loved.

[Skulltaker]

Lmao talking bout denying reality, "show is half-decent"

The show is half decent. Acting, cinematography, soundtrack, most of the props and designs, are all decent. Story and character development are trash. Depending on where you stand, I can see people get a lot of entertainment out of this show. There has clearly been effort put into it. I just don't think it's enough.

[Dhrizzle]

I'm sorry, did we read different interviews? The only hard figure in this entire thing is the cost of 465 million USD. Other than that, you only get the usual PR talk without any context, which makes it all rather worthless.

"In an interview with Deadline, Vernon Sanders, Head of Global TV for Amazon Studios, says the financial bet “has more than paid off.” He addresses the success of the show on Prime Video — where it broke records for most global viewers in its first day (25 million) and overall (more than 100 million), for minutes streamed (24 billion) and signups worldwide during its launch window, attracted younger viewers (record number of adults 18-34 for a Prime Video original) and affluent audiences (40% coming from households with income greater than $100,000) — and beyond, boosting Amazon’s sales of J.R.R. Tolkien books on which the series was based."

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Lmao talking bout denying reality, "show is half-decent"

Oh no! Do people like something you don't like?

I was talking bout fans, not superfans, like the one amazon hired to advertise the show, i know they loved.

They didn't watched, but loved.

And I'm talking about people who enjoy the works of Tolkien and liked the series Amazon made.