Lord of the Rings TV Series Purchased by Amazon

[rhorle]

It doesn't need to be in the same time period to rip-off, rings of power fucks all over the place the timeline as well

So the daughter of Samwise appears in Rings of Power? You might want to learn how comical the work is before trying to defend it even just a little. Gaining support of haters can cause articles, comparisons, etc to happen that might be enough to use as "evidence" in a court case. Flimsy for sure but there are people that hate Rings of Power enough to put in the work to try and make it happen.

[Fabinas]

So the daughter of Samwise appears in Rings of Power? You might want to learn how comical the work is before trying to defend it even just a little. Gaining support of haters can cause articles, comparisons, etc to happen that might be enough to use as "evidence" in a court case. Flimsy for sure but there are people that hate Rings of Power enough to put in the work to try and make it happen.

Stop with the conspiracy theories. Courts decide upon actual and relevant evidence presented, not upon support of a claimant from society. There's no work that someone can do to "try and make it happen".

[rhorle]

Stop with the conspiracy theories. Courts decide upon actual and relevant evidence presented, not upon support of a claimant from society. There's no work that someone can do to "try and make it happen".

Evidence of "copying" can come from any source. You don't think there are fans motivated by hate to try and prove that Amazon copied stuff? There is at least one website devoted to hating on Rings of Power even before it released. Evidence is evidence it doesn't matter who collected facts as long as it is used by the lawyers. This isn't a criminal proceeding with a chain of evidence.

I'm not pushing any conspiracy either. I'm just saying that motivated people could help search for any evidence of copying if it does exist. How is that a conspiracy theory?

[Triceron]

Looks like a repeat of the Stranger Things lawsuit. One creator thinks the other copied them without realizing they are both creating derivative works off the same source material.

[Syegfryed]

So the daughter of Samwise appears in Rings of Power? You might want to learn how comical the work is before trying to defend it even just a little. Gaining support of haters can cause articles, comparisons, etc to happen that might be enough to use as "evidence" in a court case. Flimsy for sure but there are people that hate Rings of Power enough to put in the work to try and make it happen.

You do have a rly hard time about simple things like this right?

The show can rip off the book without taking "sam's daughter", they can also take the character, but the show can name her Nori Brandyfoot

No decent writer would want their work to be associate with this dogshit show, unless they indeed stole it, so again, better wait for things to unfold before affirming anything

and i ned to take this piece that you said:

You might want to learn how comical the work is before trying to defend it even just a little

This is just gold and platinum, do YOU realize how comical awful the show rings of power is, and you are here every time defending?

[rhorle]

You do have a rly hard time about simple things like this right?

Projecting? The show can't rip off things if the book is about different subjects entirely, right? It is also hilarious that you are blindly calling this person "a decent author". Did you even look into the book in question before white knighting for it? You are letting you hate for the show elevate a terrible fan fiction just because they are against the show.

The author suing is even illegally profiting from Tolkien's work and claims ownership of characters Tolkien created. It is amazing how blindly you hate on the show and surround yourself with it.

[Syegfryed]

Projecting? The show can't rip off things if the book is about different subjects entirely, right?

So you don't know what plagiarism is, right?

Did you even look into the book in question before white knighting for it? You are letting you hate for the show elevate a terrible fan fiction just because they are against the show.

The show is also terrible fanfiction dude, its literally not the story of the second age either, there is plot that don't exist in tolkien works

The magic sword that is a key to open a floodgate to erupt mordor? tolkien never wrote that shit, what if that is a plot form the book this guy made? i don't know, you don't know, unless you read the book, thats why im saying we need to waint for things to unfold

youa re the one projecting in fact.

[rhorle]

So you don't know what plagiarism is, right?

The originator of the lawsuit sure does not. Did you even look at the claims? They are all abstract for what the show "copied". “Durin and his beautiful Queen Myrkinamid.” is apparently what the show copied for Disa. Adar copies from his book because he wrote a plot where Galadriel becomes a warrior and serves Morgoth. "led her people into the thick of attacking orcs" is copied by Galadriel becoming a warrior in the show.

You don't know. That is the key word here. You are defending something without knowing because you hate the show. It doesn't matter how terrible something else is because they are attacking the show. That is all that matters to you because you can't think beyond the simple concept of "Show bad" and anyone who thinks that is "good".

[eschatological]

Evidence of "copying" can come from any source. You don't think there are fans motivated by hate to try and prove that Amazon copied stuff? There is at least one website devoted to hating on Rings of Power even before it released. Evidence is evidence it doesn't matter who collected facts as long as it is used by the lawyers. This isn't a criminal proceeding with a chain of evidence.

I'm not pushing any conspiracy either. I'm just saying that motivated people could help search for any evidence of copying if it does exist. How is that a conspiracy theory?

But this is why courts exist. Presumably a judge will be competent and impartial enough to adjudicate whether RoP actually copied this man's work. "Haters" don't really have a place in a courtroom, and the credibility of any "evidence" they submit will be subject to scrutiny.

[rhorle]

But this is why courts exist. Presumably a judge will be competent and impartial enough to adjudicate whether RoP actually copied this man's work. "Haters" don't really have a place in a courtroom, and the credibility of any "evidence" they submit will be subject to scrutiny.

Of course that is why courts exist. Someone still has to gather facts on either side. Why would evidence of something being copied change based on a person hating the show or not? They can't travel back in time to rewrite the show to fit their bias. It is credibility of the evidence and not those gathering the evidence that matters. A person providing evidence for their own motives doesn't change the evidence.

[Syegfryed]

You are defending something

You sure live in a different world don't you?

who is defending what? lmao

[rhorle]

You sure live in a different world don't you? who is defending what? lmao

Im just going to say, it makes totally sense, we said multiple times this shit isn't lord of the rings or tolkien stuff, and it reeks of fanfic with a totally different and nonsensical plot, this might be the reason

You said it makes sense and this might be the reason why the show is terrible. I do live in a different world then you, reality.

[Syegfryed]

You said it makes sense and this might be the reason why the show is terrible. I do live in a different world then you, reality.

Saying it makes sense for the show to be shit, because it rip of a shit book, is somehow, defending the author of the shit book?


Literally told the plot is nonsensical, and you said im defending it, you do live in a different world.

[rhorle]

Saying it makes sense for the show to be shit, because it rip of a shit book, is somehow, defending the author of the shit book?

Yes. You've entertained that Amazon actually did rip the show off and have been arguing in favor of that being true in this discussion. You even said you don't know anything about it but still leaned towards Amazon doing it because of how terrible you think the show is. I'm not the one living in a different world here.

[Myradin]

While you could call me a 'hater' of the show, I doubt this guy's case has much merrit.

Actually funnily enough it seems they took his book off of amazon.

[Syegfryed]

Yes. You've entertained that Amazon actually did rip the show off and have been arguing in favor of that being true in this discussion. You even said you don't know anything about it but still leaned towards Amazon doing it because of how terrible you think the show is. I'm not the one living in a different world here.

You can't live in a world where you lost ana rgument right?

I literally say both are shit, i said it would make sense, nowhere im arguing in favor or defending something, stop lying, cause that is what you are doing, blatantly lying attacking an argument i enver made

You in toher hand are defending the show and amazon, like you have being doing for ever.

[rhorle]

You in toher hand are defending the show and amazon, like you have being doing for ever.

If it makes sense that Amazon stole someone else's work then you are defending that idea. You are giving it weight solely because of your hate of the show. Also I don't see why standing up to people's silly hate is a bad thing like you imply. There are a lot of things people say about the show that are not valid and deserve to be called out. You should be doing the same as well but it is always "Have to hate" or your not on the same side. It's not like I've ever said Amazon doesn't have fault.

[rhorle]

Even the Ringer is finally starting to admit there might be a huge problem here.

You are aware they are talking about Citadel and not Rings of Power, right? This really shows how people are reaching to keep that hate going lol.

[AtomR]

It doesn't need to be in the same time period to rip-off, rings of power fucks all over the place the timeline as well

There isn't a case of "gaining support from haters" they need to prove if it was stolen or not

Imagine "stealing" an established universe, publish an unauthorized book set in that universe, and then complain the owners of the universe stole it from them.

[Rennadrel]

Oh dear, some guy wrote a fanfic 'sequel' to LotR, unauthorised of course, published it on Amazon - and now is suing Amazon and the Tolkien estate, claiming they plagiarised his 'copyrighted' work in RoP.

https://radaronline.com/p/jeff-bezos...amazon-series/

Someone is about to get wrecked.

Considering this dipshit does not own the rights to anything in LOTR and interpretive works does not give you access to copyright protections if the work is interpreted from someone else's creation, he's gonna get crushed in a lawsuit. Amazon doesn't own the rights to anything LOTR either, they are merely licensing segments of the content, so they don't really have a case against the guy because they aren't the rights owners, but the Tolkien estate does.