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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    The point is the dude is saying everything is on par with canon and honor what Tolkien did, and that was baffling.

    Sauron turning in a werewolf to kill him, isn't a change i would be bothered about tbh, more bothered that they didn't show the fight.
    Why would you be bothered at all? If someone has the rights to the material, they're free to adapt it the way they choose. People keep praising tolkien as he was some sort of super cool guy. He was a good writer, but the "good" parts about him stops there.

    You're free to not like it, but bitching about it on a forum for a unrelated mmo game is one of the most sad things I've seen here so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    This "show" is not much more than fabricated nonsense.
    idk if you know but all of lord of the rings is fabricated nonsense, none of it is real my dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asrialol View Post
    Why would you be bothered at all?
    Because i want to?
    If someone has the rights to the material, they're free to adapt it the way they choose.
    And we are free to be bothered by it, or, be free to shit on it, if the way they choose to adapt is garbage.
    People keep praising tolkien as he was some sort of super cool guy. He was a good writer, but the "good" parts about him stops there.
    Ok? no one is rly talking about his personal life or his persona, he is not just a "good" writer, is one of the OG, he defined the genre and many works that followed were inspired by him.

    Trying to minimize his persona, and not really address the problems the show, have, or in a form to shield then is actually depressing
    You're free to not like it, but bitching about it on a forum for a unrelated mmo game is one of the most sad things I've seen here so far.
    I mean, no more sad that you, bitching about my bitching

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    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    idk if you know but all of lord of the rings is fabricated nonsense, none of it is real my dude.
    Damn epic bamboozle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    Because i want to?


    And we are free to be bothered by it, or, be free to shit on it, if the way they choose to adapt is garbage.


    Ok? no one is rly talking about his personal life or his persona, he is not just a "good" writer, is one of the OG, he defined the genre and many works that followed were inspired by him.

    Trying to minimize his persona, and not really address the problems the show, have, or in a form to shield then is actually depressing


    I mean, no more sad that you, bitching about my bitching

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    Damn epic bamboozle
    You’re actually correct. This is new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    idk if you know but all of lord of the rings is fabricated nonsense, none of it is real my dude.
    Is this not the fourth age? I am shook.
    /s

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    I can't help we have failed as a society when people defend this show as anything other than a complete shit adaptation (and mediocre AT BEST show even when divorced from Tolkein, this show had over half a billion spent on it in the first season). How did our standards become so low?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bledgor View Post
    I can't help we have failed as a society when people defend this show as anything other than a complete shit adaptation (and mediocre AT BEST show even when divorced from Tolkein, this show had over half a billion spent on it in the first season). How did our standards become so low?
    If you are judging society based on a singular TV show then it isn't society that has failed but yourself. It really is baffling how many display an inability to cope with people liking something that they themselves do not. Instead of accepting it and moving on you have to villify and hate those people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    The point is the dude is saying everything is on par with canon and honor what Tolkien did, and that was baffling.

    Sauron turning in a werewolf to kill him, isn't a change i would be bothered about tbh, more bothered that they didn't show the fight.
    Well ya that’s obviously not the case even with just the timeline condensing involved.

    Though it’s questionable rather something could even be on par with canon when you don’t have the rights to the canon. Like I don’t know how this stuff works but would the get shit for pulling things directly from the book because they don’t have the rights or do they have to make every thing slightly off so they can say there not pulling from the book or what.
    All I ever wanted was the truth. Remember those words as you read the ones that follow. I never set out to topple my father's kingdom of lies from a sense of misplaced pride. I never wanted to bleed the species to its marrow, reaving half the galaxy clean of human life in this bitter crusade. I never desired any of this, though I know the reasons for which it must be done. But all I ever wanted was the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    Well ya that’s obviously not the case even with just the timeline condensing involved.

    Though it’s questionable rather something could even be on par with canon when you don’t have the rights to the canon. Like I don’t know how this stuff works but would the get shit for pulling things directly from the book because they don’t have the rights or do they have to make every thing slightly off so they can say there not pulling from the book or what.
    The obvious idea was not do this adaptation, if you don't have the rights, or do a new self contained story in the universe of middle earth, away from characters.

    And we can't just pretend the problem lies sole in the fact they can't adapt stuff and had to change/create new stuff, is that what they create and changed is actually awful and is a mockery to the original, with shit dialogues trying to be "tolkenian" with the stone and the ship, or when they made the "they gonna steal our jerbs" scene.

    If they actually made a new story, like a warrior elf searching for an evil elf, or an evil orc, or even a human warlock or something, people would not care, they would see as a mediocre show and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bledgor View Post
    I can't help we have failed as a society when people defend this show as anything other than a complete shit adaptation (and mediocre AT BEST show even when divorced from Tolkein, this show had over half a billion spent on it in the first season). How did our standards become so low?
    Maybe because (most) people aren't so fucked in the head that they think the quality of a TV show is that important...

    And who gives a shit how much was spent on it? It's not your money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    Though it’s questionable rather something could even be on par with canon when you don’t have the rights to the canon.
    Canon just means the same continuity so other works need to reference it. So "on par with canon" would mean that it is similar to what could have been written as official. In the case of comparisons for the show it would be stuff that doesn't contradict anything and also doesn't stand out as obviously non-canon. If they gave Sauron a ak-47 that is obviously not on par with canon though gunpowder did exist.

    Technically express trains exist in the story as the hobbit narrator compares fireworks to one. Of course that is dismissed as Tolkien being an in-universe translator to their account and slipping in different words for the translation into English. If the show had the Harfoots riding an express train across middle earth it wouldn't be on par with canon even account for "lost in translation" effects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    If they actually made a new story, like a warrior elf searching for an evil elf, or an evil orc, or even a human warlock or something, people would not care, they would see as a mediocre show and move on.
    No. They would. The amount of you in this thread that can't let go of a show you've hated for years and started right back up with just a trailer drop indicates that much. You can pretend if you want but posting habits indicate that most of you wouldn't move on.
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    "we are going to be more faithful to the work in season 2"

    Also, in season 2:

    Rory Kinnear as Tom Bombadil in ‘LORD OF THE RINGS: THE RINGS OF POWER’ season 2.



    The madlads will put Tom Bombadil IN THIS SHOW

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    I will never fathom why people stay in a thread on a MMO fansite, discussing a show they don't like. If you don't like the show, is it really that hard to just.. ignore it? Weird stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asrialol View Post
    I will never fathom why people stay in a thread on a MMO fansite, discussing a show they don't like. If you don't like the show, is it really that hard to just.. ignore it? Weird stuff.
    I will never fathom why people come in a thread on a mmo fansite, discussing a show they don't like, just to complain about people talking about the show they don't like. If you don't get why, is rly that hard to just...ignore the topic and people discussing it? weird stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    I will never fathom why people come in a thread on a mmo fansite, discussing a show they don't like, just to complain about people talking about the show they don't like. If you don't get why, is rly that hard to just...ignore the topic and people discussing it? weird stuff
    Haven't said I don't like the show. If I didn't then I wouldn't look at this thread, obviously.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    The madlads will put Tom Bombadil IN THIS SHOW
    Why is that an issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asrialol View Post
    Haven't said I don't like the show. If I didn't then I wouldn't look at this thread, obviously.
    You can still ignore it.

    Im actually quite invested for the second season, its like a comedy show is coming back

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    Tom bombadill? Why, they replaced him with Radagast, who seemed less high on 'shrooms than Tom, we don't need another wizard even more on the sauce...

    I liked Radagast, but Bombadill makes me side with Sauron...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    You can still ignore it.

    Im actually quite invested for the second season, its like a comedy show is coming back
    Well, at least the landscape looks pretty.
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    Hopefully have more clever writing like stones being jealous of boats

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