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    Quote Originally Posted by SpaghettiMonk View Post
    I'm also bothered by how these showrunners have no sense of the story. My specific example is Mount Doom - they should be playing up the connection between Sauron and Mount Doom in this series. The story in the lore was basically "original dark lord created mount doom using his bigbad powers, it becomes heart of Sauron's power cause he forges ring there". Sauron is never actually present in any scenes in Lord of the Rings, and Mount Doom occasionally serves as a kind of stand in - the volcano rumbling as a symbol of his power. There's a scene where Sam is having trouble sleeping and Mount Doom rumbles, the chapter ending with "Mount Doom also slept uneasily". It's special, it's almost a character in itself - it's the only place the ring can be destroyed, it explodes massively when the ring is dropped in it, Sam mentions that the ring gets a lot heavier when he is in sight of Mount Doom, he uses it to send out darkness when his armies invade, etc.

    Instead they went with "let's make up a sciency explanation for why Mount Doom exists" and Sauron isn't involved in its creation. It was, "orcs can't handle sunlight, so they blotted out the sun by diverting water into Mount Doom so it explodes constantly". Ridiculous. "Mount Doom is created by science" is a less effective story and weakens the main plotline by diverging from it and minimizing Sauron's role. It's really scary that the showrunners can't see that.
    i'm gonna have to disagree with you on this point:

    the fact they wrote it the way they did and portrayed it the way they did shows just how little they know about the lore and how little the understand the nuances of the lore, it actually epitomises their approach and shows how limited they are in both scope and talent to write a comprehensive piece to explain this portion of the lore.


    the showrunners being unable to see through their own bullshit is cemented with this point, it's basically confirmation, (on top of the already long list of other points that also confirm), that these clowns have no clue what the source materials says and have no clue how to interpret that source material properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpaghettiMonk View Post
    Yeah it may be based on knowledge gotten from users, but the AI doesn't know much about the show because it doesn't know anything after 2021.
    A shame, would be interesting to know what it thinks of RoP in general and what it would do to improve the show and make it Emmy worthy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogoth View Post
    i'm gonna have to disagree with you on this point:

    the fact they wrote it the way they did and portrayed it the way they did shows just how little they know about the lore and how little the understand the nuances of the lore, it actually epitomises their approach and shows how limited they are in both scope and talent to write a comprehensive piece to explain this portion of the lore.


    the showrunners being unable to see through their own bullshit is cemented with this point, it's basically confirmation, (on top of the already long list of other points that also confirm), that these clowns have no clue what the source materials says and have no clue how to interpret that source material properly.
    They also don't know shit about anything else.

    The storyline makes no sense whatsoever.

    The key that open the "gates" for the water is a dark sword made my morgoth....But the elves build that dam, why the elves build a dam that the key was the sword of the enemy?

    Cause, clearly, the damn WAS NOT designed to erupt mordor, because the orcs need to build the trenches so the water could flow there, so why the dark sword a thing?

    Fucking convoluted awful plot that does not make sense. Besides, by the region, the water would NEVER reach Mount Doom, first it was too far away and upwards, second, the volcano was not pressured, it would not erupt by pouring some water, AND the pyroclastic explosion only selective kill people, cause most of then were just fine How the fuck do you write that a pyroclastic explosion destroy AND burn houses, trees, horses, doesn't affect humans? these guys are crayon eaters, and you have to hear people saying this isn't bad, Holy hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    The key that open the "gates" for the water is a dark sword made my morgoth....But the elves build that dam, why the elves build a dam that the key was the sword of the enemy?
    The Elves didn't build it.
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    Leaks/spoilers ahead:

    https://www.theonering.net/torwp/2024/01/18/117474-spy-report-the-rings-of-power-season-2-to-expand-on-sauron-in-huge-new-ways/

    This actually seems awesome. Leak claims they got the silmarillion rights, showing Gandalf and Sauron in beginning of time, making of the ring, etc. Still might end up suffering through a side plot with Galadriel so that they don't seem like they've forgotten her after pretending she's the main character, but most of the rest looks good.

    Seems totally unlikely though, it has almost nothing in common with season 1. Where'd the Harfoots go (lol who even cares)?
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    LOL that is sooooo fucking bad looking.



    Points 1-8 are whatever, could be great could be trash have to see what they do.

    Point 9 is where it starts to go off rails, there were only 3 themes, so a forth interuption? what? Also Eru chastises him right there.

    Point 10 Gandalfs Maiar name was Olorin, not mithrandir (his Elvish name)

    Point 11, lol fuck no, IF you wanted to have someone tempted by Sauron in his agenda, do Saruman, this would at least tie in to his temptation/fall later and lay the groundwork for it.

    Point 12 whatever.

    Point 13, these are the same people that say Sauron lying about being an envoy of the Maia was too stupid, but having Sauron say he apprencticed under Aule so he could make the dwarven rings? Fuck off, not to mention they already fucked the creation of the rings since the Elven rings (now created first) were the last rings made.

    Point 14 So Sauron has a kid now? FUCKING LOL fanfic trash

    Point 15 I know quite a few Tolkien nerds, no one was begging for an origin story for Shadowfax, or the history of the Rohirrim horses. I mean I guess I could be sold on this but you already have so much to cover, and IF they have the rights to The Silmarillion you even have more things you can cover, why waste the time/money on this.

    Point 16 Confirms the joke that Gandalf is meteor man LOLOLOLOLOL

    Point 17 Another thing I don't hate conceptually, but you have to really do right to pull off and I don't have faith.

    Point 18/19 If they are even trying to fucking make Bombadil a "reformed" Melkor then they truly should never be allowed to adapt anything ever again, because they will have proven they are incompetent fuck wits.

    Point 20 Again a bit late on that with the Elven rings made (and presumably the dwarven rings get made when Sauron goes there).


    Over all just continues to confirm Amazon is pretty shit at adaptations, and that while Rafe of Time is a contender, this show is the crown jewel of utter shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bledgor View Post
    Point 14 So Sauron has a kid now? FUCKING LOL fanfic trash
    To be fair Tolkien did essentially state (In the Osanwe-kenta and with Melian) that Ainur could conceive and be bound to a form. It would be a small change to have Sauron bound to Halbrand's form because of having a child rather then having the fluid powers of shape shifting. Just like the wizards for example became incarnate for their missions.

    It is interesting though how desperate some of you are to hate that you are taking rumors as confirmed information just so you can continue to hate.
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    is there a 2nd season coming? Didn't Amazon fire a ton of people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    is there a 2nd season coming? Didn't Amazon fire a ton of people?
    Season 2 started production around October 2022. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv...ng-1235231978/

    The most recent layoffs for Prime Studios had the bulk come from Twitch. It really isn't anything out of the ordinary and not something that would send red flags about Rings of Power. A lot of tech-related companies have reduced their workforce as well. https://www.reuters.com/technology/a...on-2024-01-10/
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