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    Quote Originally Posted by melodramocracy View Post

    I have a hard time getting past what a buffoon Celebrimbor is, even after calling out Annatar for his bullshit, he goes along with it anyhow. They could have approached the forgings from a bunch of angles, and this just seems rushed or not very well thought out.
    Thats because the writers are buffoons themselves, who don't know how to make a story complex enough to make Sauron a proper deceiver/manipulator, so they need to make everyone else retarded

    Quote Originally Posted by Kumorii View Post
    Not only that... They played this huge triumphant music when they kissed.
    I actually laughed a bit because it felt like such a big moment as if it was a romantic drama and this was the culmination of them finally getting together.
    Jesus Christ, and i have to listen to some twats here saying this show in't a total perversion of tolkien work, its insulting
    But, I have to agree this is one of the better episodes. Things actually started to happen at a somewhat pace.
    I went to confirm if that shit was real, and i also read that Eregion already fallen, and the elves simple treat with the orcs, and they simple don't kill then when negotiations fail, seems like total bullshit to me.

    If this is "the best"holy shit the others must be abysmal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post

    Hnf...nails mother-in-law...before marrying the daughter...such a guy thing to do.
    They wanted their game of thrones, and they did it, sick bastards

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    They wanted their game of thrones, and they did it, sick bastards
    Not even close. The context of the scene makes that clear. It was a distraction to hide the passing of a lock pick and her expression after wasn't anything close to romance . It is being cherry picked by the haters because it is easy to twist to their narrative. It is a common trope. Black Widow and Captain America did it as a distraction in The Winter Soldier.

    https://youtu.be/aDA513-4LVo?t=85
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    Not even close. The context of the scene makes that clear. It was a distraction to hide the passing of a lock pick and her expression after wasn't anything close to romance . It is being cherry picked by the haters because it is easy to twist to their narrative.
    The context is shit my dude, just don't do it, its cringe and sick

    They are the goddamn writers, don't make a fucking scene where Elrond kiss his mother-in-law, do in another fucking way, they went for this on purpose, the same fuckers who ship her with sauron, stop trying to defend this.

    there is nothing to twist, because the writers already twisted everything, by making a perverted scene that did not exist

    How the fuck she did even know he was going to do that? elven telepathy now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    Im literally Thanos right now, and i don't even know who you are, and i only comment on something you say if you lied like Kenn
    You are literally Thanos?....
    Ok dude.
    What are you even doing here anyways? You have admitted many times you don't even watch the show and have proven you aren't interested in discussing it. Go away. Shoo.

    Anyways, I finally got around to watching the last one. As usual the cinematography was first rate. I mean it looked nicer that most movies. I don't really like extra long episodes that feel stretched out that are normal for streaming these days, but once in awhile theres one that shows up that really earns that hour+.
    "I have many names." Was great and I really like how they explained that line from the books/movies how the dwarves locked themselves away in their mountain when they were needed most. That troll/giant scene was gruesome.
    Oh that kiss? It was just so he could pass her the lockpick.
    Anyway, for those interested but on the fence the entire episode was basically the battle for the city. If you are fan of fantasy not sure how you couldnt enjoy this. Looking forward to seeing how they wrap this up.
    But hey, people sure love to nitpick this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Triceron View Post
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    RoP season 2 41 million viewers in 11 days, that number is far larger now, so yes 9 million is fairly low numbers in its first week, RoP is a far more popular tv show that more ppl want to watch compared to most other tv shows, fantasy shows usually have a larger audience than something set in feudal japan which is more niche. RoP is number 2 in the top 5 shows watched at this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
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    RoP is currently the second most watched tv show atm so if you class that as a failure then you are just talking nonsense just for the sake of it, the 40 million viewers were also in the first 11 days not the current number several weeks down, that number has easily increased by at least 50% more.

    Your bad opinions dont change the simple facts that the series is doing better than most tv shows.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alach View Post
    You are literally Thanos?....
    Ok dude.
    Yeah... about the meme, do you think anything else?
    What are you even doing here anyways?
    To discuss and criticize the garbage show since it deserves.

    You have admitted many times you don't even watch the show
    So? when i did people talk shit the same way, watching and not watching doesn't stop your whining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenn9530 View Post
    RoP season 2 41 million viewers in 11 days, that number is far larger now, so yes 9 million is fairly low numbers in its first week, RoP is a far more popular tv show that more ppl want to watch compared to most other tv shows, fantasy shows usually have a larger audience than something set in feudal japan which is more niche. RoP is number 2 in the top 5 shows watched at this time.
    Which isn't saying much since that 41 million is an ambiguous source that isn't comparable to standardized metrics.

    If it really had 41 million viewers there'a no reason why it is a number 2 spot. Make sense?

    Neilsen ratings will probably be a better metric

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    The first four episodes of “The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power” Season 2 have reached 40 million viewers globally in 11 days, according to Amazon.

    It’s difficult to put the stat in full context, as Amazon has not defined how it quantifies its viewership; for example, 40 million could simply be the number of people who watched any portion of the available episodes.




    Also

    https://televisionstats.com/top/year

    As of Sept. 26th 2024,
    Shogun is #6
    Rings of Power is #41.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenn9530 View Post

    RoP is currently the second most watched tv show atm
    Minutes watched is a fucking terrible metric to measure viewers

    And your failure of a show don't have any other new show to compete and they still lose to show released almost 20 years ago. Literally losing to re-watch.

    This number is also heavily manipulated since nielsen cover the minutes watched from season 1 as well.
    Viewing totals on the ratings service’s charts cover all episodes of a series.)
    And even then it was lower than season 1:

    The 1.02 billion minutes is down about 19 percent from season one’s opening week (1.25 billion) in August 2022.
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv...24-1236013716/

    No surprise, lower than Fallout and Reacher as well.

    So yeah, a big failure that it will drop on the charts, just like in season 1 when almost 60% of viewers didn't even finish it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    They wanted their game of thrones, and they did it, sick bastards
    I felt like the sword / fight scene at the temple in Numenor was trying to invoke GoT vibes, and it did a decent job of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    Minutes watched is a fucking terrible metric to measure viewers

    And your failure of a show don't have any other new show to compete and they still lose to show released almost 20 years ago. Literally losing to re-watch.

    This number is also heavily manipulated since nielsen cover the minutes watched from season 1 as well.


    And even then it was lower than season 1:



    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv...24-1236013716/

    No surprise, lower than Fallout and Reacher as well.

    So yeah, a big failure that it will drop on the charts, just like in season 1 when almost 60% of viewers didn't even finish it
    As usual you poorly attempt to dismiss any information that proves you to be wrong about something, facts are simple the show is doing very well and that's all that matters, not your own ego poorly attempting to insult anything you personally don't like, your opinions mean nothing, facts that prove the show to be doing well is what actually matters.

    People rewatch shows all the time or just want something to waste time or just something on in the background, any show having over 40 million viewers is a massive success.

    Any show with 10 million viewers is considered a success.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Triceron View Post
    Which isn't saying much since that 41 million is an ambiguous source that isn't comparable to standardized metrics.

    If it really had 41 million viewers there'a no reason why it is a number 2 spot. Make sense?
    RoP is not fully out yet, you know many wont watch it until the full series is available, not everyone watches shows week to week, the number of viewers will easily double if not even more once the show has all episodes out, its one of the most popular tv shows currently being watched atm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenn9530 View Post
    As usual you poorly attempt
    Literally information from the source

    1- Lower views than season 1
    2- Lower minutes watched from season 1
    2- Lower minutes watched from season 1 even combined with the minutes watched from season 1
    3- Losing to a 20 year show rewatch
    4- It did worse than Fallout and Reacher

    Those are facts

    For the budget and IP is a total failure, it should be pulling at least 10x times more
    RoP is not fully out yet, you know many wont watch it until the full series is available
    No one will finish watching

    60% of the people who started season 1 didn't finish it, they didn't wait for the full series to be available, they just stop watching

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    Quote Originally Posted by melodramocracy View Post
    I felt like the sword / fight scene at the temple in Numenor was trying to invoke GoT vibes, and it did a decent job of it.
    I didn't saw any choreography from season 2, only the awful ones from season 1, would be a rare improvement on their belt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    Minutes watched is a fucking terrible metric to measure viewers
    It is not. If it was low you would have no problem with the metric. You've even gone back and forth on Amazon lying based on if it supports your hate or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenn9530 View Post
    As usual you poorly attempt to dismiss any information that proves you to be wrong about something, facts are simple the show is doing very well and that's all that matters, not your own ego poorly attempting to insult anything you personally don't like, your opinions mean nothing, facts that prove the show to be doing well is what actually matters.

    People rewatch shows all the time or just want something to waste time or just something on in the background, any show having over 40 million viewers is a massive success.

    Any show with 10 million viewers is considered a success.

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    RoP is not fully out yet, you know many wont watch it until the full series is available, not everyone watches shows week to week, the number of viewers will easily double if not even more once the show has all episodes out, its one of the most popular tv shows currently being watched atm.
    You really think RoP will shoot from 41st spot up past 6th spot to beat Shogun?

    Your words are that Shogun was some middling success, but I've clearly shown otherwise. And if you're just hiding behind the fact that RoP isn't fully out yet, I will be happy to link you this again and again on a weekly basis till you recognize the truth here.

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    hey guys, remember, you're not supposed to talk about how few people actually watch this trash, or you could get a forum ban, because talking about viewership numbers of the show is apparently not allowed anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogoth View Post
    hey guys, remember, you're not supposed to talk about how few people actually watch this trash, or you could get a forum ban, because talking about viewership numbers of the show is apparently not allowed anymore.
    It's the #2 overall and #1 original show for the current cycle.

    The only non-Netflix show close is Only Murders in the Building (as expected this cycle).

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    I still watch it but I don't think it's good overall. I still watch it because I like the IP, not because I think it's a good show. Season 2 is better then season 1 but it's not in my top 10, not even close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogoth View Post
    hey guys, remember, you're not supposed to talk about how few people actually watch this trash, or you could get a forum ban, because talking about viewership numbers of the show is apparently not allowed anymore.
    Tbf, is not allowed to say if the show is good or bad, based on the views, and the only one person claiming is good because of it is kenn9530

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    The series is a testament to what jeff bezoz is all about. He is the biggest jerk and ahole on this planet. So now he and amazon studios is pissing on the greatest fantasy epic ever told or written, pissing on one of the most numerous and loyal fanbase. There must be something that he has against tolkien since he was willing to pay over a billion dollars just to create this sh**show. Many real tolkien specialists and great peter jackson offered to help with the writing and creation of this show because they wanted it to be a success. But amazon studios refused all the aid and hired bunch of people who would know how to make 2 dollar drama-comedy but have no idea what is high-fantasy or who is tolkien. They took the most well known fantasy tale, bought rights to it with insane price tag and wrote their own piece of sh** that has nothing to do with the original story. Not only that but they changed things so much that it became truly disrespectful sad parody against the original story and copying stuff from peter jacksons movies is a very retard thing to do. I am watching the show, why not, I am pirating it and not giving a cent to these bast**ds, I watch it because I am a middle-earth maniac and high fantasy lover and because there is nothing else unless to watch peter jacksons movies, yet again. And I will. But after every episode of this total BS disgrace of a show I feel guilty and ashamed and angry for what they have done. And how they even manage to spend all that money on this trash? Peter jacksons movies look way more better in every way and look more expensive. Almost every scene of this show feels and looks like it was made by some student group with amateur funding. It is amazing how you can fck up things so badly with such a budget and story made ready, but they did not want the original, they wanted their own woke infested crab. And did you know that amazon is making yet another mmorpg, like new world failure wasn't enough, and that new title will be about middle-earth..My god. I hope Jeff bezoz die in horrible agony and amazon crumbles to dust and gets erased from history books.

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    Minutes watched is the metric for measuring streaming.

    https://www.nielsen.com/data-center/top-ten/

    That was the first episode, nielsen is always a month behind.
    Heres some more commentary that isn't from another angry bully. (sure seems like theres alot of those around these days.)


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    Quote Originally Posted by alach View Post
    Minutes watched is the metric for measuring streaming.

    https://www.nielsen.com/data-center/top-ten/

    That was the first episode, nielsen is always a month behind.
    Heres some more commentary that isn't from another angry bully. (sure seems like theres alot of those around these days.)

    I just wanna make sure I have this correct, you're basis for defending this show, is someone who clearly doesn't know the actual story, and is waxing lyrical about some big budget effects and how he is emotionally attached to characters that either never existed, or are so far from what they are in the lore, that they might as well be complete fabrications.

    this show has entirely subverted, rewritten, and generally shit all over the established lore, all because they don't have the rights to the ACTUAL story, and this slop is being hailed as some kind of marvel of the current age?

    like I have said before, if you genuinely enjoy this stuff, that's fine you're free to like what you like, however, that does not give you the audacity to claim this show is 'good' or 'great' in any way shape for form, because from season 1 to current episode, I would say there's maybe 10-15% of the show that's actually true to the story, the rest being entirely fabricated and badly written fanfiction.

    I'm also curious to know how a franchise that's been beloved and shared for decades is somehow all of a sudden only now 'inclusive'? How such a beloved franchise and story is only now 'representative'? I'm also immensely curious to see what will happen when the wave finally comes crashing down from the activists and alphabet mafia and their rhetoric is no longer seen as a good idea, it's already started in gaming, wonder how it will affect them in other forms of media.

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