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[Shadowferal]

I've always found this criticism of TLJ to be particularly hilarious. As if someone is supposed to be the same at 70 as he was at 20. I mean for fuck's sake, he was hardly the same guy in Jedi that he was in the first movie. .

There was no lead in, no hints or clues as to reasons why, beyond some falling out with Kylo, and that was it. We've one of the biggest names in the franchise and written/directed so clumsily an amateur might have done better.

[s_bushido]

There was no lead in, no hints or clues as to reasons why, beyond some falling out with Kylo, and that was it.

That's like complaining that there was no explanation for why Harry Potter's parents were murdered until like...the 3rd or 4th book/movie. "Some falling out with Kylo" was the hint.

I have no idea why the 5 year old specifics of a Star Wars movie is even relevant to this thread. Beyond it being probably the most notorious example of blaming the evil SJWs for ruining a franchise...

[Syegfryed]

All of them are terrible. The absolute disdain for the legacy characters that have carried the success of the Star Wars franchise for 40 fucking years was so blatantly apparent in how they wrote Han, Leia and Luke. Portraying Leia as an incompetent leader, Han as an outcast who becomes a loner despite the character redemption arc he has during the original trilogy, not to mention Luke basically becoming a hypocritical old curmudgeon and a hermit, totally bastardizing the optimistic exuberance of his original character only for him to be killed off in such a shitty way. Not to mention how they Mary Sue'd the living hell out of Rey. It's pretty much impossible to get behind such a terrible cast of new characters when none of them are unique and they don't face real adversity while stomping all over the legacy characters.

i agree with that and i was 100% disappointed with Fin treatment, i thought it would be dope as hell to have a "stormtrooper" changing sides and fighting for the good, maybe even learning some jedi shit, cause i can't stand skylwalker bs, but meh, wasted.

[Shadowferal]

That's like complaining that there was no explanation for why Harry Potter's parents were murdered until like...the 3rd or 4th book/movie. "Some falling out with Kylo" was the hint.

Potter's parents weren't the main characters. Now if we see a hp movie where we see Potter alone, and derelict after a couple of decades I'd think an hp fan would want more than a half-assed scene that were supposed to believe that was the point where he gave up on everything that meant something to him. And considering Luke's beliefs, Fighting the good fight, even a "hopeless" battle...that would be him. "Giving up" should never have been an option.

[Ivanstone]

I've always found this criticism of TLJ to be particularly hilarious. As if someone is supposed to be the same at 70 as he was at 20. I mean for fuck's sake, he was hardly the same guy in Jedi that he was in the first movie.

Even weirder: That plot point is from Ep7. Abrams, a mediocre creator, decided to hamfistedly turn Luke into Yoda. Johnson, a better creator, was just fleshing out what Abrams started.

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Not to mention how they Mary Sue'd the living hell out of Rey.

For the millionth time, Rey is not a Mary Sue. Everything she can do is because Luke accomplished the same. Its almost like she's just a cheesy rip off of another character. Which is nothing new under the sun.

But instead of just saying she's a cheesy rip off created by a hack director, you decided to trot out gendered insults which only reveals your misogyny. Shall we now discuss how the white male hack director had largely escaped criticism but instead the internet decided to slander his female executive producer instead?

[Triceron]

I've always found this criticism of TLJ to be particularly hilarious. As if someone is supposed to be the same at 70 as he was at 20. I mean for fuck's sake, he was hardly the same guy in Jedi that he was in the first movie.

A 70 year old throwing away his maturity and reverting to an angsty teen who just wants to be left alone isn't the better option.

[Ihavewaffles]

More dislikes than likes

[Ivanstone]

More dislikes than likes

So we have 99K idiots and 102K morons weighing in on a TV show they haven't seen yet.

[s_bushido]

More dislikes than likes

lol

50/50?

Usually when the Butthurt Brigade vote bombs something, they do better than that. Must be slipping. Or maybe youtube's nefarious plan to hide dislikes actually worked...and no one bothers hitting the button anymore.

[Ihavewaffles]

Fer sure the dislikes would be far higher, most people don't know about extension that shows dislikes too

[Thaneo]

lol

50/50?

Usually when the Butthurt Brigade vote bombs something, they do better than that. Must be slipping. Or maybe youtube's nefarious plan to hide dislikes actually worked...and no one bothers hitting the button anymore.

It is likely the latter... that and people have really taken to spamming the comment section.

[Ihavewaffles]

lol I doubt these "superfans" have read a single tolkien book...

[Triceron]

So we have 99K idiots and 102K morons weighing in on a TV show they haven't seen yet.

Why can't they be viewed as likes and dislikes of the teaser trailer?

[Val the Moofia Boss]

More dislikes than likes

Thank goodness!

[Dhrizzle]

More dislikes than likes

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99% of people think the like/dislike button isn't worth the effort of pushing.

[DarkAmbient]

lol I doubt these "superfans" have read a single tolkien book...

That video is absolute cringeworthy trash. No wonder they unlisted it.

[Coniferous]

That video is absolute cringeworthy trash. No wonder they unlisted it.

Dear god... what a disaster that video is. Every time something new comes out, people tell us not to start panicking about the series, then the next thing comes and it's just worse.

These "superfans" clearly don't know the lore at all: "young" Galadriel is among one of the oldest beings on Middle Earth at the time, like literally 6000-7000 years old.

Anyone else getting strong Ali G vibes from the moderator, by the way?

Here's a link to the goodreads page of Joel Rochester, the guy pictured in the thumbnail. He doesn't have any Tolkien books listed as read. He added the Silmarillion to his list but it's not read (and he's been regularly adding other books and marking them read). Jesus christ... it seems they stopped reading his bio at "bisexual black fantasy fan" and didn't check whether he is even a fan of LOTR. Dude also gave 5 star rankings to about 70% of the books he has read, and seems a huge fan of Percy Jackson...

https://www.goodreads.com/review/lis...ery%5D=tolkien

I can't find anything on the black girl, I think she's a tiktok person, and the other one is a "demisexual" who has 215k subscribers on youtube for fantasy related stuff, a few references to Harry Potter, but again no LOTR.

[Biomega]

So we have 99K idiots and 102K morons weighing in on a TV show they haven't seen yet.

Yes, when someone is squatting over your mouth and pushing, you totally believe them when they say "What's the matter, you don't if it's going to be shit IT HASN'T EVEN COME OUT YET!".

[Orby]

lol I doubt these "superfans" have read a single tolkien book...

wow even as a bi/pan guy I feel embarrassed xD

But lets be honest that whole thing is corporate back to front. It was like some white guys in a meeting though of it and I feel sad, that diversity is always being used in such a way. Diversity is always good, (like no shit) but the way corporations use it and project it is done in the worst way possible.

[Dorothyjean]

"Everything she can do is because Luke accomplished the same."

That isn't entirely true because she picked up everything in an incredibly small amount of time but in the original 3 movies it was an assumed amount of time between the movies. One Deathstar was blown up... and they had to make a new one which takes a sizeable stretch of time. Rey went to hang out with Luke and within a very small time frame "Well, I've learned everything..."