Lord of the Rings TV Series Purchased by Amazon

[Dhrizzle]

No. They paid for the rights and planned on having 5 seasons to tell the story of the Rings from creation to the end of the second age. They choose to produce more seasons because the show has been successful for them. There is no way a company like Amazon would be foolish enough to be forced to spend millions producing something that no one watches.

I'd love to live in their fantasy world where streaming companies don't just cut their losses and leave multi-season arcs hanging because viewer numbers are below expectations.

[Syegfryed]

I'd love to live in their fantasy world where streaming companies don't just cut their losses and leave multi-season arcs hanging because viewer numbers are below expectations.

might introduce you to CW LMAO

[Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang]

It's the words of JD Payne.

https://www.empireonline.com/tv/news...out-exclusive/



So yeah, they bought a 50 hour show. Now did they pay upfront? No, I highly doubt that.
Are the clauses in the contract that if it doesn't pay off to a certain degree that allows Amazon to bail out? Maybe, don't know.

But yeah, the words are from the writers themselves.
I do agree that if someone thinks they got paid upfront they are probably wrong though.
Do I think there is a contract for 5 seasons including the amount they will get in funding and payment? Sure, Otherwise I have no clue what JD Payne referred to.

Maybe he was just hyping it up? Then it's a poorly worded phrase.
It's not pulled from thin air though. Doesn't mean all speculations and assumptions surrounding it are correct.

Could also refer to the rights of the written works, but even then it's bought and paid for with 5 seasons in mind. And in that case I think they paid it all to the estate.

Well, besides the rights massive price tag, they've already sunk massive costs in all those expensive sets and costumes. Might as well use them, since the 1 billion is probably gonna be written off as promotion for Prime.

[Biomega]

Well, besides the rights massive price tag, they've already sunk massive costs in all those expensive sets and costumes. Might as well use them, since the 1 billion is probably gonna be written off as promotion for Prime.

Sunk cost fallacy?

Not that I'm saying they won't do more seasons (I can't know either way), but this is not a good argument to do so. Because even if you've lost a bunch of money either way, that's no good reason to potentially lose EVEN MORE. It does of course somewhat shift the cost:benefit equation, but it's still a fallacy to watch out for.

[rhorle]

Well, besides the rights massive price tag, they've already sunk massive costs in all those expensive sets and costumes. Might as well use them, since the 1 billion is probably gonna be written off as promotion for Prime.

Between the subscribers and conversion to retail the show has probably already paid for itself. People tend to forget that Prime Video isn't like other streaming services. They have an entire ecosystem that makes Amazon money and it has already been established that Prime Video makes them money on the retail side of things.

[Syegfryed]

Sunk cost fallacy?

Not that I'm saying they won't do more seasons (I can't know either way), but this is not a good argument to do so. Because even if you've lost a bunch of money either way, that's no good reason to potentially lose EVEN MORE. It does of course somewhat shift the cost:benefit equation, but it's still a fallacy to watch out for.

But they would be losing more money if they don't do it, because they already expended too much on the rights alone, at least that is the innitial report, keep doing put content on amazon so they can at least say you can pay the sub and have content

They would stop only if they lose more money by doing it, but lets be honest, its not like they are expending much to do this shit anyway, almost everything is green screen, the figurine/prompts are garbage, they clearly have the cheapest of the writers and a bunch of average to mediocre actors

[rhorle]

But they would be losing more money if they don't do it, because they already expended too much ...
...its not like they are expending much to do this shit anyway

Make up your mind, lol.

[Syegfryed]

Make up your mind, lol.

your brain didn't handle those concepts?

If they stop now, they would lose money, but if they keep doing, they don't, because its cheap and it advertise for shareholders at amazon.

If doing it, outweigh the losses, then they stop

[rhorle]

If they stop now, they would lose money, but if they keep doing, they don't, because its cheap and it advertise for shareholders at amazon.

If it isn't losing Amazon money then that would mean it is making a profit and successful, right? It is also hilarious to see you call one of the most expensive shows cheap.

[Syegfryed]

If it isn't losing Amazon money then that would mean it is making a profit and successful, right? .

No, you rly have a limited amount of effort into understanding basic shit right?

They not losing money doesn't mean they would make profit, they would be losing more money by not doing, still losing, but not as much as if they stop.

It is also hilarious to see you call one of the most expensive shows cheap.

- Garbage writers
- Mid to mediocre actors
- Bad figurine
- Mostly CGI/Green screen

seems pretty cheap to me, all the money went to buy the rights and maybe some laundry scheme

[Kumorii]

- Mostly CGI/Green screen

I agree on the other points, but the CGI made for the show is definitely not on the cheap side. The quality is amazing in most shots, most often ruined by bad logic in writing, but the effects themselves look good. I think a lot of, if not most, money went to the CGI.

[rhorle]

They not losing money doesn't mean they would make profit, they would be losing more money by not doing, still losing, but not as much as if they stop.

1-0=1.

If they are not losing money then there are two options. Break even or profit.

[Syegfryed]

I agree on the other points, but the CGI made for the show is definitely not on the cheap side. The quality is amazing in most shots, most often ruined by bad logic in writing, but the effects themselves look good. I think a lot of, if not most, money went to the CGI.

What i meant to say is they are not traveling or expending time on real sets to film the scenes, making things cheaper.

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1-0=1.

If they are not losing money then there are two options. Break even or profit.

No, there is the option to stop doing and they lose 5, or they keep doing it and lose 2.

[rhorle]

No, there is the option to stop doing and they lose 5, or they keep doing it and lose 2.

Why would they lose 5 for not continuing the show?

[Syegfryed]

Why would they lose 5 for not continuing the show?

Because they already paid for 5 seasons, not doing it would make a bigger of a hole in losses than continuing. By commiting to the doomed project, they don't make profit, at all, but at least don't lose as much as they would be if they stop, because they can still advertise, include in content for prime and say good stuff for shareholders with their fake numbers

If they straight up stop, they don't gain anything to offset the loses, they don't have content for prime video and their image is damaged

[rhorle]

Because they already paid for 5 seasons, not doing it would make a bigger of a hole in losses than continuing.

The $250 million isn't a recurring fee. It wouldn't make a bigger hole because they already paid that amount. It is the same hole.

It is also hilarious that you think Amazon would lie to shareholders with fake numbers. They are not dumb enough give an easy lawsuit and face fines from the SEC. It is even more hilarious that you think Rings of Power is their only content on Prime Video.