Sometimes, the light of the moon is a key to other spaces. I've found a place where, for a night or two, the streets curve in unfamiliar ways. If I walk here, I might find insight, or I might be touched by madness.
"It is every citizen's final duty to go into the tanks, and become one with all the people."
~ Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang, "Ethics for Tomorrow"
Some of us are telling you stop carrying needless expectations that cause yourself to panic.
Bad shows and movies happen. No reason to panic over em. I mean in all honesty, as shit as the Hobbit Trilogy is, was it ever worth panicing over? Hobbit book fans will always have the books. A bad movie or show won't ever change that.
Hobbit Trilogy is forever gonna be a thing, and we can choose to forever disregard Dwarf/Elf romances having ever existed. If people are upset over Black Elves or Beardless female Dwarves, this shit ain't canon anyways. Never will be.
Last edited by Triceron; 2022-02-20 at 08:42 PM.
The absolute state of Warcraft lore in 2021:
Kyrians: We need to keep chucking people into the Maw because it's our job.
Also Kyrians: Why is the Maw growing stronger despite all our efforts?
I mean it could defy the odds and be good... I don't believe it will be but watching a trainwreck is entertaining in itself.
palate cleanser :P
Last edited by Orby; 2022-02-20 at 10:29 PM.
I love Warcraft, I dislike WoW
Unsubbed since January 2021, now a Warcraft fan from a distance
Hint: Luke wasn't the main character of this sequel trilogy.
I mean, Kylo is supposed to be in his mid-20s? Assuming maybe Han and Leia had a few years of a relationship before having a kid, can we assume that at least 25 years have passed?
Are Star Wars fans so pedantic that everything of that 25 years has to be spelled out in some media format somewhere? The growing unease of Luke as he trains Kylo, the seduction of Kylo by Snoke, Luke retreating to the island and his inner struggles about whether he should continue the Jedi order, and so on, and so forth? Maybe you want a movie of him reading all the books in the tree temple to the audience?
The whole point of TLJ was that the two stories from Kylo and Luke differed. What mattered was how each character saw that moment. For Kylo it was a betrayal by a parental figure that he could never forgive. For Luke, it was a "moment of doubt and pain" (put it in quotes so y'all can draw the easy parallels to Jesus' moment of doubt in the garden of Gethsemane) that he instantly regretted, and that sent his life careening into chaos.
I thought it was brilliantly executed. But Star Wars fans are like, the most reductive assholes on the internet who A) cling to character archetypes of characters from 40 years ago, not accepting change, and B) only accept change if it's spelled out explicitly in 2 decades worth of now-defunct EU books.
I mean for Christ's sake, look at The Mandalorian vs. the reaction to Boba Fett. Star Wars fans love Mandalorian because it's exactly their image of what a Mandalore bounty hunter would be, as established in....well, let's face it, side material, since the original Boba Fett had absolutely no backstory. Smash forward to the Book of Boba Fett, and from what I can gather, people think it's worse because......Boba tries to do something else, like be a leader?
Last edited by eschatological; 2022-02-21 at 03:09 AM.
You call that brilliant executed? It was a 10 second flashback with little context, they basically said the guy who never gave up on his father, Darth Vader, gave into doubt sudden with his nephew? That snoke from across the fucking galaxy was poisoning his thoughts? It was shit tier execution with terrible/no build up, just thrown at us as a surprise!
If you don't want to proper build up this monumental fuckup/failing of a major character (lets be real, while Luke isn't the main character of the sequels, he is a major one, and was a driving force in people wanting to see the film, as the character has a massive legacy) and instead we got, cause it happened!
Honestly would have been 1000x better just to have him send Kylo out on missions to prove himself a Jedi, and Kylo run into Snook and fall to his corruption, and that cause Luke to feel he failed as a Teacher/Uncle and abandon his work starting the order again. Even then I don't think the character of Luke presented in 4-6 would have fucked off to an island and ignore his now evil Nephew and abandon his sister, like he did in the movie. Sorry my expectations for movies is higher than that.
Anyway...
No matter what, there will always be the Jackson trilogy. Thank fuck he made them when he did. They still hold up well now. One or two of those forced perspective shots look really bad though, especially the scene where Frodo and Gandalf are talking to each other across the table in Bag End. But I think they always looked bad tbh. The balrog still looks amazing.
Glad I wasnt the only one who thought that. The forced perspective of them on the cart at the beginning still holds up though. some of the CGI also aged badly like Legolas skirting down the Oliphaunts after dismantling it in RotK. a lot of the Legolass scenes for that matter lol. But the Gollum stuff still holds up so wel (and yes the Baelrog stuff too still looks great)
I love Warcraft, I dislike WoW
Unsubbed since January 2021, now a Warcraft fan from a distance
The absolute state of Warcraft lore in 2021:
Kyrians: We need to keep chucking people into the Maw because it's our job.
Also Kyrians: Why is the Maw growing stronger despite all our efforts?
Yeah, fuck us LOTR fans for having the temerity to watch a trailer for a LOTR show.