Lord of the Rings TV Series Purchased by Amazon

[DarkAmbient]

Glad I wasnt the only one who thought that. The forced perspective of them on the cart at the beginning still holds up though. some of the CGI also aged badly like Legolas skirting down the Oliphaunts after dismantling it in RotK. a lot of the Legolass scenes for that matter lol. But the Gollum stuff still holds up so wel (and yes the Baelrog stuff too still looks great)

It looks so bad lol



What's up with all the Star Wars shite ITT?

[Ivanstone]

You know the like/dislike function is for the actual teaser video and not for the series itself?

You know we've had several pages of whiners crying about a fucking teaser that isn't worth watching in the first place.

Don't watch teasers. Don't watch trailers. Watch the fucking TV show.

[Nerovar]

You know we've had several pages of whiners crying about a fucking teaser that isn't worth watching in the first place.

Don't watch teasers. Don't watch trailers. Watch the fucking TV show.

Tell Amazon to not release trailers then if you have a problem with the concept.

[DarkAmbient]

Yeah, fuck us LOTR fans for having the temerity to watch a trailer for a LOTR show.

[Shadowferal]

Pretty sure we'll all watch the first couple shows...

[molliewoof]

Pretty sure we'll all watch the first couple shows...

Agreed, I'll probably watch them all whatever happens, I just like to know.

Won't be too excited about it though

[bledgor]

Pretty sure we'll all watch the first couple shows...

Eh with how god awful The Rafe of Time was I'll wait for and see if any friends recommend LOTR, Amazon fucked WoT up so badly if I don't hear positives from friends I will pass on LOTR.

[s_bushido]

Yeah, fuck us LOTR fans for having the temerity to watch a trailer for a LOTR show.

Not sure why we're pretending it's "LOTR fans" watching and vote-bombing the trailer. I mean...just look at the comments section, see everyone spamming that same quote, and try to tell me this is a genuine reaction...

[Makabreska]

Not sure why we're pretending it's "LOTR fans" watching and vote-bombing the trailer. I mean...just look at the comments section, see everyone spamming that same quote, and try to tell me this is a genuine reaction...

I think they went full Twitch chat copypasta spam.

[DarkAmbient]

Not sure why we're pretending it's "LOTR fans" watching and vote-bombing the trailer. I mean...just look at the comments section, see everyone spamming that same quote, and try to tell me this is a genuine reaction...

No doubt a lot of those commenters are just riding the meme wave, but LOTR has a huge fan base and it's not surprising to me that a large number of them might react negatively to the direction of the show. It would be silly to write the show off at this point though. I'm still going to watch it (the first episode, at least) in case it is actually good.

[Orby]

It looks so bad lol



What's up with all the Star Wars shite ITT?

I dunno how that started, been trying to pivot the conversation back though :P

Also I dont seem as mad as most when it comes to the teaser trailer, I am still waiting for the show to launch before I can come to any definitive opinion despite some of the cringe choices Amazon are making (like that video they took down), what makes and break for me is the story.

I have played and liked the Middle Earth Shadow of war games despite how much they fucked with the canon, so this show will likely have the same effect. I think its pretty much confirmed that its not going to be as good as the original trilogy, that's a given and I am fine with that. So my expectations are satisfyingly low. Also it could be shit, and if it is I'll judge it then. There's literally nothing to go on via that Teaser, I'll wait.

I see people online (youtube) already make essay long videos about why it sucks... and I am here like 'wait the fuck up'. Save it for when the show comes out lol.

[Okacz]

At this point I'm seriously rooting for the show to succeed. Amazon did a shitty thing making sure trailer's going to create as much of a media buzz as possible, but hey, can't blame them seeing how this thread is around 50 pages of people complaining about lack of facial hair on female dwarf faces. You know that one could just have fucking shaved it off, right? Tolkien never did claim that dwarven beards are made of titanium.

Speaking of that guy, while I love his work (LotR is among the first "big boy" novels I've ever read), he does have a very reductionist view when it comes to adaptations and extensions of his stories. After reading some of his letters he does come across as a person who'd throw fit at a director for making elven eyebrows a bit too bushy. He'd absolutely hate LotR trilogy, which wasn't afraid to say that the Bombadil stuff was a bit too tedious and boring to include in a movie. Not to mention Shadow of Mordor. Both of those pretty awesome projects wouldn't even see the light of day if Tolkien's view of "adaptation" were adhered to - which means pretty much "copy EVERYTHING from my books and just glue it to the other medium, logic be damned".

When it comes to the trailer - aside of some obvious mediabait stuff (dwarf, dark-skinned elves, woman in armor - the nerve, right) it displayed some gorgeous landscapes that bring back the memories of Jackson trilogy. So I'm hopeful. Amazon made some pretty sick adaptations already, maybe this one will stick the landing too.

[Orby]

At this point I'm seriously rooting for the show to succeed. Amazon did a shitty thing making sure trailer's going to create as much of a media buzz as possible, but hey, can't blame them seeing how this thread is around 50 pages of people complaining about lack of facial hair on female dwarf faces. You know that one could just have fucking shaved it off, right? Tolkien never did claim that dwarven beards are made of titanium.

Speaking of that guy, while I love his work (LotR is among the first "big boy" novels I've ever read), he does have a very reductionist view when it comes to adaptations and extensions of his stories. After reading some of his letters he does come across as a person who'd throw fit at a director for making elven eyebrows a bit too bushy. He'd absolutely hate LotR trilogy, which wasn't afraid to say that the Bombadil stuff was a bit too tedious and boring to include in a movie. Not to mention Shadow of Mordor. Both of those pretty awesome projects wouldn't even see the light of day if Tolkien's view of "adaptation" were adhered to - which means pretty much "copy EVERYTHING from my books and just glue it to the other medium, logic be damned".

When it comes to the trailer - aside of some obvious mediabait stuff (dwarf, dark-skinned elves, woman in armor - the nerve, right) it displayed some gorgeous landscapes that bring back the memories of Jackson trilogy. So I'm hopeful. Amazon made some pretty sick adaptations already, maybe this one will stick the landing too.

Tolkein was very anti TV or adaptation, he hated TV in general, he hated that format. He never wanted his books adapted down that route. which is funny when I see people saying 'Rings of Power is shitting on Tolkiens legacy' when by default the original trilogy did that by just being made. Doesn't matter if you liked it or not, Tolkien never got his say, but he was open to suggestions and offers, but he would have never liked the idea.

There was a video one of his releatives made too

[Yossarian]

lol I doubt these "superfans" have read a single tolkien book...

this is one the cringest thing I ever watched

[dlld]

Tolkein was very anti TV or adaptation, he hated TV in general, he hated that format. He never wanted his books adapted down that route. which is funny when I see people saying 'Rings of Power is shitting on Tolkiens legacy' when by default the original trilogy did that by just being made. Doesn't matter if you liked it or not, Tolkien never got his say, but he was open to suggestions and offers, but he would have never liked the idea.

Tolkien died in 1973, if I had spent decades conjuring up a epic world in my imagination and someone wanted to bring it to life with effects and costumes that existed in the 50s and 60s I'd probably hate the idea as well.

[Rennadrel]

Tolkein was very anti TV or adaptation, he hated TV in general, he hated that format. He never wanted his books adapted down that route. which is funny when I see people saying 'Rings of Power is shitting on Tolkiens legacy' when by default the original trilogy did that by just being made. Doesn't matter if you liked it or not, Tolkien never got his say, but he was open to suggestions and offers, but he would have never liked the idea.

People already know that. Even Christopher didn't like the films. And The Hobbit was bad which most people concede but at least it wasn't complete fan fiction nonsense despite it taking a lot of creative liberties which is what we know this show will be since the producers have admitted as much. Peter Jackson went out of his way to try and remain as faithful to the LOTR novels as possible while also understanding that there are some moments where you have to take a bit of creative liberty when adapting something to film. But we also know that JRR Tolkien was a stickler for people respecting the work that he created and lambasted anyone who tried. I doubt he would have approved of Peter Jackson's work, but I get the feeling that it would have been less disproval than whatever the two-bit hacks in Hollywood are trying to do to his characters with this show.

[Dhrizzle]

"Everything she can do is because Luke accomplished the same."

That isn't entirely true because she picked up everything in an incredibly small amount of time but in the original 3 movies it was an assumed amount of time between the movies. One Deathstar was blown up... and they had to make a new one which takes a sizeable stretch of time. Rey went to hang out with Luke and within a very small time frame "Well, I've learned everything..."

The second Death Star was already under construction when the first was blown.

Anyway, wasn't that whole connection to Kylo supposed to show she had been receiving passive training through him?

[Bladesyphon]

Eh with how god awful The Rafe of Time was I'll wait for and see if any friends recommend LOTR, Amazon fucked WoT up so badly if I don't hear positives from friends I will pass on LOTR.

Same.

I was on the fence for WoT, even with the changes. One of my friends, whose super obsessed with basically anything that ticks off boxes when it comes to diversity and female empowerment (no matter how badly it's done, or how badly the story actually is, so long as it has those things in it), kept going on about how awesome and amazing it was, and how well they did the characters, and even if I'm a purist of the book, I'd still like the show because it "does the characters more justice than what Jordan did.", so I contemplated watching it all once all the episodes released. Frankly, I should have seriously been questioning her opinion when she said the change to Perrin was good but, hey, she's been my friend for nearly twenty years, she gets the benefit of the doubt.

Flash forward to after the last episode aired, and I was talking to two other friends who aren't obsessed with "yay diversity" like she is, one of which who hasn't read the books, explaining to me all the changes, and, in his words, my reaction was "glorious". What they did to the characters and world is an absolute travesty that I had no idea was a thing, and properly killed any desire I had of watching it.

I'll probably do the same with The Rings of Power, but frankly after what they did to WoT, I'm probably not even going to bother.

[Ivanstone]

Yeah, fuck people for having the temerity to watch a trailer for a show.

Fixed that for you.

Trailers tell you nothing at best and at worst spoil the show for you.

[DarkAmbient]

Fixed that for you.

Trailers tell you nothing at best and at worst spoil the show for you.

We all know that trailers can deceive. But of course we're still going to watch, it's the first chance to get a bit of the flavour of what's coming.