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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophenia View Post
    So we closed this season without any news about Isildur. Is he supposed to be dead in this serie or do they keep him for S02, with him waking up 10 days after in the middle of Mordor lol
    Willing to bet Season 2 starts with an opening of Berek finding him or Isildur waking up and finding Berek.

    Maybe starts with a Galadriel doing an exposition before that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    cmon lotr movies are cheesy as fuck. Gimli is literally a comic relief character. The little song aaragon sings when he becomes king lmao. They are lucky they had some solid lines written already although that they could lift from the books. some of the better ones ('It was Sam's first view of a battle of Men against Men, and he did not like it much. He was glad that he could not see the dead face. He wondered what the man's name was and where he came from; and if he was really evil of heart, or what lies or threats had led him on the long march from his home; and if he would rather have stayed there in peace') etc are left out.
    One of the things I originally disliked about the trilogy (there are a few nit picks) is how they buffooned up Gimli. The 'central nervous system', 'natural born sprinters' line and the 'dwarf women'. Yea I rolled my eyes at those.

    Other silly things were the Merry and Pippin 'you need us on this quest, mission thingy' line was random. But the movies had so much going for it that it was ignored. I feel if Rings of Power had a better story (which was going to be hard considering they had little to work with), then I do feel alot of those cheesy lines and bad dialogue in Rings of Power would be totally forgotten too.

    I liked the song Aragorn sung as king though, songs were a very important part of Tolkien's works that I kind of admired.

    The movies always had charm though, something the series doesn't, the show comes off bitter and spiteful most times, with not much levity, Tolkien always taught us that through despair and darkness there would be hope and that there would be light and a better tomorrow. In Rings of Power it was constant dread. There was none of that charm. Yes the movies could be silly at times but they had heart, the show is missing that, except for the Elrond and Durin scenes, they were pretty touching at times.

    With that said I feel the movies were always pretty near perfect because of its charm and well crafted world and characters, and this is putting aside 'being faithful to the source material' arguments, cos I am not that concerned with 'being faithful' more that they just tell a good story, which Rings of Power tried to do but failed or at best felt a bit disjointed. I do feel it failed to capture that familiar feeling I wanted or expected and just came off as a standard fantasy epic. which isn't bad... could be worse I watched the first season of the The Shannara Chronicles show when that came out. People thinking RoP is a bad fantasy adaptation know nothing lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnysensible View Post
    cmon lotr movies are cheesy as fuck. Gimli is literally a comic relief character. The little song aaragon sings when he becomes king lmao. They are lucky they had some solid lines written already although that they could lift from the books. some of the better ones ('It was Sam's first view of a battle of Men against Men, and he did not like it much. He was glad that he could not see the dead face. He wondered what the man's name was and where he came from; and if he was really evil of heart, or what lies or threats had led him on the long march from his home; and if he would rather have stayed there in peace') etc are left out.
    I mean, no. The lines you're referencing are just a tiny potion of the total dialogue in the films. And the movies lines are mostly derived from the books. Obviously something RoP writers had hugely stacked against them is having a very limited source material.

    This series however is mostly bad lines. Nothing great or memorable from what I've seen so far. At best there are a few mediocre - good lines sprinkled through each episode.

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    Last episode of season 1 was good, the show does show signs of real life influence which is disappointing. It's supposed to be middle earth but can't help but include 2022 thought processes. "I'm good" LOL. ok I guess.

    Please be better in season 2.

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    You know how this was such a gigantic clusterfuck of awfulness when people try to attack the original trilogy to defend this.

    I remember one guy here that was shitting on Tolkien, to save face of the serie, like "Tolkien was not even that good" holy fuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    I mean, no. The lines you're referencing are just a tiny potion of the total dialogue in the films. And the movies lines are mostly derived from the books. Obviously something RoP writers had hugely stacked against them is having a very limited source material.

    This series however is mostly bad lines. Nothing great or memorable from what I've seen so far. At best there are a few mediocre - good lines sprinkled through each episode.
    The show think their memroable lines are:

    "there is a tempest inside me!"
    "Our hearts bigger than our feet!"
    "The ea is always right!"

    All awful lines that in context are even worse, because by example, the Hobbits are little sociopaths that left people to die on purpose

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    You know how this was such a gigantic clusterfuck of awfulness when people try to attack the original trilogy to defend this.

    I remember one guy here that was shitting on Tolkien, to save face of the serie, like "Tolkien was not even that good" holy fuck
    No one is attacking the original trilogy. Only pointing out that it wasnt perfect and the hypocrisy of certain criticisms on Rings of Power, which is right for them to do so. But my point is because the movies were factually better its easy to forget the negatives because the movies were so good, where as Rings of Powers flaws are highlighted by the shows awful story and dialogue so other things stand out too.

    the original trilogy is one of my favourite trilogies and movies of all time. so when I criticise it, I do it with love :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orby View Post
    No one is attacking the original trilogy. Only pointing out that it wasnt perfect and the hypocrisy of certain criticisms on Rings of Power, which is right for them to do so. But my point is because the movies were factually better its easy to forget the negatives because the movies were so good, where as Rings of Powers flaws are highlighted by the shows awful story and dialogue so other things stand out too.

    the original trilogy is one of my favourite trilogies and movies of all time. so when I criticise it, I do it with love :P

    Pointing out that isn't perfect is completely pointless because we are not discussing the trilogy, we know isn't perfect, we know it have flaws, but its done and gone, And it don't see any hypocrisy here, the show have way more shit lines compared to the movies

    Trying to say "the original trilogy have flaws" in an attempt to defend this is desperate,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    Pointing out that isn't perfect is completely pointless because we are not discussing the trilogy, we know isn't perfect, we know it have flaws, but its done and gone, And it don't see any hypocrisy here, the show have way more shit lines compared to the movies

    Trying to say "the original trilogy have flaws" in an attempt to defend this is desperate,
    I agree, but don't blame me I am just arguing with people who are doing that :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    The show think their memroable lines are:

    "there is a tempest inside me!"
    It wasn't a serious line because she's immediately thrown in jail after her rant. The juxtaposition of scenes is an obvious attempt at humor.
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    The show was so good that there needs to be a surge in Disney twitter fanpages saying that people simply did not understand what really happened and explaining why it was actually good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkeon View Post
    The show was so good that there needs to be a surge in Disney twitter fanpages saying that people simply did not understand what really happened and explaining why it was actually good.
    Are you sure you are in the right thread? You may be looking for the she-hulk one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    Are you sure you are in the right thread? You may be looking for the she-hulk one.
    Even the effects team already bailed on she-hulk by now, my man. I definitely didn't mean it.

    But you might be on to something, there was also a spike in 'fanpages' fighting off the criticism from that show.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkeon View Post
    The show was so good that there needs to be a surge in Disney twitter fanpages saying that people simply did not understand what really happened and explaining why it was actually good.
    You forgot the tag..(/s)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkeon View Post
    Even the effects team already bailed on she-hulk by now, my man. I definitely didn't mean it. But you might be on to something, there was also a spike in 'fanpages' fighting off the criticism from that show.
    It was pointing out how you said Disney twitter fan pages for an Amazon show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    It was pointing out how you said Disney twitter fan pages for an Amazon show.
    That's fair. Nowadays all these corporations just end up looking the same to me, potato potahto type thing. But yeah, I understand the reasoning of your post now, I completely overlooked them.

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    Im gona say it then, hate me if you want. She hulk was the better show to watch out of these two, not even close too lol. Honestly what suck is that people probably watched ring of power garbage more then andor, which is an actual fucking good show. But its flying under most people because its not fucking jedi nostalgia shit for the 500th time.

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    The original Peter Jackson Trilogy was a masterpiece, unfortunately this was a trainwreck fanfiction. It is a shame, I hope the show is cancelled to cut losses and then we can forget it ever existed.
    Probably running on a Pentium 4

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    Every paragraph filled with idiocy. Let’s start from the top.

    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    My dude, the show try to rpesent him as the great blacksmit of the age, yet, this is not what we see.
    Celebrimbor wasn’t a blacksmith. A blacksmith is a smith who primarily works with iron and steel. Tolkien never called him a blacksmith and as far as I recall the show never called him a blacksmith. The few works of Celebrimbor that are mentioned in text are made of gold, silver, mithril, and gemstones.

    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    He can't be the best if others can do better than him, the show contradict itself and make him a dumbass, an old dumbass
    Other than the rings, the only other work of Celebrimbor that Tolkien confirms is the Moria gate, of which his part was setting the mithril inlay. Celebrimbor’s craftsmanship skills in making elaborate and finely detailed work isn’t eclipsed by some dudes elsewhere figuring out how to make harder shields. Unless those Southland smiths are also making magic rings and magic doors then I’d say Celebrimbor is still far more skilled than they are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    Waow, look at that, another headcanon fo yours as the show does not put him as a "jewel smith"
    This is the one that takes the cake and proves that you really don’t know what you’re talking about.

    Him being a jewel-smith isn’t my headcanon. It’s what Tolkien wrote. Celebrimbor founded the Gwaith-i-Mirdain (the smiths who forged the rings) and that name literally means “People of the jewel-smiths”. While the show doesn’t say it outright, it makes a point of showing how he takes great inspiration from Feanor whose claim to fame was of course a set of jewels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbazz View Post
    The original Peter Jackson Trilogy was a masterpiece, unfortunately this was a trainwreck fanfiction. It is a shame, I hope the show is cancelled to cut losses and then we can forget it ever existed.
    Too bad for you millions upon millions love it and you'll have to endure all 5 seasons of this amazing show! Must be hard for you to cope the world doesn't spin around you.

    I love people calling this fanfiction as if PJs trilogy wasn't. The movies changed most characters to the core and both removed, added and changed events that were vital to the story in the books. If people could stop pretending to be Tolkien experts because it's trendy it'd be great!
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    So after watching the entire season I'll give it a 6/10.
    It's not as bad as some Youtubers, and the people parroting them, claim it to be but it could've been better, mostly in pacing and writing.
    Galadriel still is off, the entire season. To many member berries are used.
    Although we're getting more seasons of this, my hopes of ever seeing a Silmarillion series have been reduced to below zero thanks to this underperforming.

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