One of the things I originally disliked about the trilogy (there are a few nit picks) is how they buffooned up Gimli. The 'central nervous system', 'natural born sprinters' line and the 'dwarf women'. Yea I rolled my eyes at those.
Other silly things were the Merry and Pippin 'you need us on this quest, mission thingy' line was random. But the movies had so much going for it that it was ignored. I feel if Rings of Power had a better story (which was going to be hard considering they had little to work with), then I do feel alot of those cheesy lines and bad dialogue in Rings of Power would be totally forgotten too.
I liked the song Aragorn sung as king though, songs were a very important part of Tolkien's works that I kind of admired.
The movies always had charm though, something the series doesn't, the show comes off bitter and spiteful most times, with not much levity, Tolkien always taught us that through despair and darkness there would be hope and that there would be light and a better tomorrow. In Rings of Power it was constant dread. There was none of that charm. Yes the movies could be silly at times but they had heart, the show is missing that, except for the Elrond and Durin scenes, they were pretty touching at times.
With that said I feel the movies were always pretty near perfect because of its charm and well crafted world and characters, and this is putting aside 'being faithful to the source material' arguments, cos I am not that concerned with 'being faithful' more that they just tell a good story, which Rings of Power tried to do but failed or at best felt a bit disjointed. I do feel it failed to capture that familiar feeling I wanted or expected and just came off as a standard fantasy epic. which isn't bad... could be worse I watched the first season of the The Shannara Chronicles show when that came out. People thinking RoP is a bad fantasy adaptation know nothing lol.
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Unsubbed since January 2021, now a Warcraft fan from a distance
I mean, no. The lines you're referencing are just a tiny potion of the total dialogue in the films. And the movies lines are mostly derived from the books. Obviously something RoP writers had hugely stacked against them is having a very limited source material.
This series however is mostly bad lines. Nothing great or memorable from what I've seen so far. At best there are a few mediocre - good lines sprinkled through each episode.
Last episode of season 1 was good, the show does show signs of real life influence which is disappointing. It's supposed to be middle earth but can't help but include 2022 thought processes. "I'm good" LOL. ok I guess.
Please be better in season 2.
You know how this was such a gigantic clusterfuck of awfulness when people try to attack the original trilogy to defend this.
I remember one guy here that was shitting on Tolkien, to save face of the serie, like "Tolkien was not even that good" holy fuck
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The show think their memroable lines are:
"there is a tempest inside me!"
"Our hearts bigger than our feet!"
"The ea is always right!"
All awful lines that in context are even worse, because by example, the Hobbits are little sociopaths that left people to die on purpose
No one is attacking the original trilogy. Only pointing out that it wasnt perfect and the hypocrisy of certain criticisms on Rings of Power, which is right for them to do so. But my point is because the movies were factually better its easy to forget the negatives because the movies were so good, where as Rings of Powers flaws are highlighted by the shows awful story and dialogue so other things stand out too.
the original trilogy is one of my favourite trilogies and movies of all time. so when I criticise it, I do it with love :P
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Pointing out that isn't perfect is completely pointless because we are not discussing the trilogy, we know isn't perfect, we know it have flaws, but its done and gone, And it don't see any hypocrisy here, the show have way more shit lines compared to the movies
Trying to say "the original trilogy have flaws" in an attempt to defend this is desperate,
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- Christopher HitchensPopulists (and "national socialists") look at the supposedly secret deals that run the world "behind the scenes". Child's play. Except that childishness is sinister in adults.
The show was so good that there needs to be a surge in Disney twitter fanpages saying that people simply did not understand what really happened and explaining why it was actually good.
"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
"Man is his own star. His acts are his angels, good or ill, While his fatal shadows walk silently beside him."-Rhyme of the Primeval Paradine AFC 54
You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
Im gona say it then, hate me if you want. She hulk was the better show to watch out of these two, not even close too lol. Honestly what suck is that people probably watched ring of power garbage more then andor, which is an actual fucking good show. But its flying under most people because its not fucking jedi nostalgia shit for the 500th time.
The original Peter Jackson Trilogy was a masterpiece, unfortunately this was a trainwreck fanfiction. It is a shame, I hope the show is cancelled to cut losses and then we can forget it ever existed.
Probably running on a Pentium 4
Every paragraph filled with idiocy. Let’s start from the top.
Celebrimbor wasn’t a blacksmith. A blacksmith is a smith who primarily works with iron and steel. Tolkien never called him a blacksmith and as far as I recall the show never called him a blacksmith. The few works of Celebrimbor that are mentioned in text are made of gold, silver, mithril, and gemstones.
Other than the rings, the only other work of Celebrimbor that Tolkien confirms is the Moria gate, of which his part was setting the mithril inlay. Celebrimbor’s craftsmanship skills in making elaborate and finely detailed work isn’t eclipsed by some dudes elsewhere figuring out how to make harder shields. Unless those Southland smiths are also making magic rings and magic doors then I’d say Celebrimbor is still far more skilled than they are.
This is the one that takes the cake and proves that you really don’t know what you’re talking about.
Him being a jewel-smith isn’t my headcanon. It’s what Tolkien wrote. Celebrimbor founded the Gwaith-i-Mirdain (the smiths who forged the rings) and that name literally means “People of the jewel-smiths”. While the show doesn’t say it outright, it makes a point of showing how he takes great inspiration from Feanor whose claim to fame was of course a set of jewels.
Too bad for you millions upon millions love it and you'll have to endure all 5 seasons of this amazing show! Must be hard for you to cope the world doesn't spin around you.
I love people calling this fanfiction as if PJs trilogy wasn't. The movies changed most characters to the core and both removed, added and changed events that were vital to the story in the books. If people could stop pretending to be Tolkien experts because it's trendy it'd be great!
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So after watching the entire season I'll give it a 6/10.
It's not as bad as some Youtubers, and the people parroting them, claim it to be but it could've been better, mostly in pacing and writing.
Galadriel still is off, the entire season. To many member berries are used.
Although we're getting more seasons of this, my hopes of ever seeing a Silmarillion series have been reduced to below zero thanks to this underperforming.