Help with new PC build please

[hazetz]

Hello,

I'm looking for a new PC build that will ideally be good for another 4-5 years. I mainly play WoW, GTA V, and The Division but I would like to play any upcoming games in the next 2-3 years on highest possible graphic settings.

Thank you in advance to anyone able to help out, your time is appreciated.

• Budget - $1,100ish, with some wiggle room, I can go as high as $1,300 if it'll help future proof.
• Resolution - I mainly play 1080p but would like the ability to go higher if I want/need to
• Games / Settings Desired - max/ultra
• Any other intensive software or special things you do (Frequent video encoding, 3D modeling, etc) - Not really.
• Country - US
• Parts that can be reused - Would like fresh build as my current PC is pushing four years.
• Do you need an OS? Yes
• Do you need peripherals (e.g. monitor, mouse, keyboard, speakers, etc)? No.

[Shakadam]

AMD

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($230.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($119.39 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB FTW2 Gaming iCX Video Card ($463.46 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1273.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-18 04:01 EDT-0400

That's really about as low as I can go for a decently future proof AMD build. Add another $30-ish for a win 10 key from Kinguin or somewhere similar.

Intel

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($238.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15S 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($79.89 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus - Prime Z370-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($119.39 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB FTW2 Gaming iCX Video Card ($463.46 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1336.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-18 04:13 EDT-0400

+Another $30-ish for win 10. Hard to stay within budget for an Intel build. It's possible to save a little by going for a cheaper CPU cooler and motherboard but if you plan on OC'ing I really wouldn't cheap out on those parts.

You can re-use whatever HDD's you have in your current computer.

[MasterOfTrollz]

personally I would go with the AMD, they'll let you keep the same MOBO whenever they upgrade their cpu, for intel you need a new MOBO every single time. and the Ryzen CPU's are really good, it's the first time I would actually pick AMD over Intel in years

[darkvexen]

AMD

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($230.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($119.39 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB FTW2 Gaming iCX Video Card ($463.46 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1273.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-18 04:01 EDT-0400

That's really about as low as I can go for a decently future proof AMD build. Add another $30-ish for a win 10 key from Kinguin or somewhere similar.

Intel

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($238.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D15S 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($79.89 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus - Prime Z370-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($119.39 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB FTW2 Gaming iCX Video Card ($463.46 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ B&H)
Total: $1336.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-18 04:13 EDT-0400

+Another $30-ish for win 10. Hard to stay within budget for an Intel build. It's possible to save a little by going for a cheaper CPU cooler and motherboard but if you plan on OC'ing I really wouldn't cheap out on those parts.

You can re-use whatever HDD's you have in your current computer.

he needs a OS, stated in op, so that takes both of these out of budget.

But yes, go with the amd build.

[MasterOfTrollz]

Right, and yet we're going to get DDR5 sometime relatively soon. So a DDR4 mobo would be worthless by that time.

DDR5 is nowhere near availability for regular consumers. It's going to be really expensive and will probably take a couple of years before people can afford them like the DDR4

[Denpepe]

Changed some parts of the AMD build, went for a weaker GPU but still plenty for 1080p and some cheaper but still same performance RAM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($119.39 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB 6GT OC Video Card ($314.99 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($95.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1160.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-19 15:30 EDT-0400

[Shadowater]

It seem like both GPU and RAM prices will go down alittle due to recent events it might be worth it to wait alittle before getting a new pc. And if you can use part from your old pc you could spend more on hardware to make sure you get the best available.
Parts I normally reuse is: Case, PSU, storage and sometimes ram if they are supported. Because those things can be replaced easily at a later date.

If you really want a completely new system see if you like this one:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($238.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid 240 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370 GAMING PLUS ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 480GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($97.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Titanium Video Card ($479.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case ($24.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA - 750W ATX Power Supply ($38.98 @ Newegg Business)
Total: $1205.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-20 18:21 EDT-0400

Windows 10 you can get from G2play.net for 30 dollars

Edit: Changed CPU cooler to a 240 AIO instead of 120 and made it so the listed items have links.

[Shakadam]

Changed some parts of the AMD build, went for a weaker GPU but still plenty for 1080p and some cheaper but still same performance RAM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($119.39 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB 6GT OC Video Card ($314.99 @ B&H)
Case: NZXT - S340 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($95.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1160.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-19 15:30 EDT-0400

Just wanted to point out that those Ripjaws memory kits aren't Samsung B-die, which is kinda required for Ryzen if you want high speeds and low latency. It's a 5-10% performance increase from 3200mhz cl14 memory vs 3200mhz cl16 memory (although those Ripjaws likely won't reach even 3200mhz).

[Denpepe]

Just wanted to point out that those Ripjaws memory kits aren't Samsung B-die, which is kinda required for Ryzen if you want high speeds and low latency. It's a 5-10% performance increase from 3200mhz cl14 memory vs 3200mhz cl16 memory (although those Ripjaws likely won't reach even 3200mhz).

Those ripjaws run fine at 3200 mhz on my ryzen 1500x CPU but if he can spare the 70$ for your RAM I don't mind, just tried to bring cost somewhat down to add the win 10 (which I know you can get cheaper on kinguin, but it can also be a hassle as the last key I bought there was already used and took some sorting out to get running).

[hazetz]

Because we're at this stage of the 10xx series, I would wait until the next generation. Getting a 1070 now for $450 and anytime between now and the end of the year seeing a card that'll be 5-20% faster for the same price would piss me off if you're buying for several years.

I was mainly looking in preparation for BFA, I tried googling the launch date of next generation and it appears to be all speculation and estimated dates. Forgive my ignorance but when the new generation releases will the current generation pascal be available at a cheaper price?

If you think I would be better suited to wait until closer to BFA launch I can wait.


p.s. Thank you to everyone, I really appreciate you taking the time to share your guidance.

[Shadowater]

Because we're at this stage of the 10xx series, I would wait until the next generation. Getting a 1070 now for $450 and anytime between now and the end of the year seeing a card that'll be 5-20% faster for the same price would piss me off if you're buying for several years.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor ($238.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua - NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($74.95 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370P D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($105.31 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($119.39 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Mini ITX OC Video Card ($454.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks - Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case ($97.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($30.00)
Total: $1320.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-20 09:53 EDT-0400

For an overall computer, I would recommend an AMD build, but because you want to play the games listed above, Intel will come out superior due to the ability to OC the 8600k to 4.5-4.7 nicely on this cooler. To cut some costs, a cheaper case may be available, otherwise wait until some summer sales to get the CPU and probably MOBO cheaper. GPU prices are also continuing to drop.

I think you put the wrong GPU, Mini ITX GPUs have less performance and would not look good in a ATX build.
But yeah I agree with you that it might be better to wait, atleast for prices to go down.