After ruining the potential for Horde-Alliance diplomacy and closer interaction, why doesn't Anduin put her on trial? People died and are going to die in the future because of her actions, so why is she treated as anything but a criminal?
After ruining the potential for Horde-Alliance diplomacy and closer interaction, why doesn't Anduin put her on trial? People died and are going to die in the future because of her actions, so why is she treated as anything but a criminal?
Last edited by Lyssander; 2018-05-19 at 02:50 PM.
Because she has Human Potential of course.
"You know you that bitch when you cause all this conversation."
The result of her action were unintentional and those actions was done without malice towards either side. Anduin tends to forgive people if he can. One may call that naive and another may call it benevolent, but that's his character - keep in mind that this is the person who had been forgiving towards people with worse deeds. He was the only one tried to reason with Garrosh after SoO event (almost success in reaching out to him as well). He hadn't even attempted to punish Genn (other than maybe some scolding off-screen), who *intentionally* assaulted the Horde fleet aiming at its Warchief and ended up causing damage to both side. Both (Genn and Garrosh)'s actions had worse direct consequences. Why do you think he would put Calia on trial now?
And well, what was said, she was kind of executed on the spot. Putting someone who isn't even your people, and was already killed for her actions on trial is a bit much, don't you think?
Je veux le sang, sang, sang, et sang
Donnons le sang de guillotine
Pour guerir la secheresse de la guillotine
Je veux le sang, sang, sang, et sang.
I did not imply that she did it with a malicious intent, but strict liability still applies - she caused an international incident and nothing happens? Genn is a slightly different case, he is still, at least theoretically, a sovereign leader of his people, and thus prosecuting him is much harder.
Not trying Calia, even if just for show, puts Anduin in a bad light.
Anduin can't punish Calia, since she doesn't work under Alliance jurisdiction. The Gathering seemed to be a joint operation of Horde, Alliance and Faol/Calia. Calia did a bad thing, but the best Anduin can do to "punish" her is to refuse working with her again. Which I doubt, since they're still so buddy buddy. Anduin gave her a slight scolding at Netherlight Temple, so I assume that's the worst she's gonna get from him. Besides, the Epilogue suggests he blames Sylvanas for the whole ordeal, along with himself for failing to protect the Desolate Council. Whatever bad shit is coming Calia's way is from Horde-side.
Now you see it. Now you don't.
But was where Dalaran?
I'm really failing to see how Calia and the alliance working with the desolate council, the only forsaken who actually care about their people, to bring peace between forsaken and human is somehow a crime? What's the issue here how is that somehow bad?
Also how is anyone responsible for the deaths that were 100% sylvanas' actions and hers alone?
How are they instigating a rebellion though? Sylvanas is a shit leader who has said and shown on multiple occasions she does not actually care about the forsaken or horde as people, they are a tool for her to use and nothing else. The desolate council is a council of undead who are representative of a bulk of the forsaken who genuinely care about their people and well being, they dislike sylvanas because they see through her bullshit and they want better.
Calia is the rightful heir to the throne and said before she has no interest in taking it up, but when the forsaken who currently reside in said city actively seek her out and WANT her to take the throne how is that her instigating a rebellion? It's the forsaken who want to prosper that want her to take the throne because it would be better for all of them.
The most recent chronicle confirms Sylvanas cares for the Forsaken, and before the Storm has her admiring several other people, including both Vol'jin and Varian.
The Council was formed because Sylvanas no longer was in Undercity, so a power vacuum was formed.
You keep saying "The forsaken" with a blanket attempt to paint all of them as wanting Calia. Those who saught her out wished to join the Alliance to be with their families, nothing more or less.
Also so much for not taking the throne, Calia says she could rule the forsaken in that exact same book.
You don't need the throne, or Lordaeron for that matter, to rule the Forsaken, though. If she can, one way or another, induce Forsaken to leave the Forsaken (faction) and help them to defect to Alliance (which was what she said that she was attempting to do), she can rule them without infringing upon Sylvanas' queenship - be it the throne, or the land, or the rights over people in her faction.
Je veux le sang, sang, sang, et sang
Donnons le sang de guillotine
Pour guerir la secheresse de la guillotine
Je veux le sang, sang, sang, et sang.
Yeah and she's also literally said "arrows in my quiver" before too. I'm not going to get into how much of a mess blizzard writing is and how different writers flip flop all the time, but in my experience she has overwhelmingly referred to people in the horde as a tool and a means to an end more often than shown kindness.
Yes i say forsaken as a blanket because i feel that's the majority. The remaining citizens of lordaeron and citizens of undercity seem to be the bulk of the forsaken. Maybe i'm wrong, maybe the bulk of the forsaken are just the villainous monsters that enjoy plaguing everything for fun. I was just under the impression most forsaken didn't want to be like that.
And yes i'm not seeing a problem with Calia reconsidering the throne. She said before she has no interest, but after undead say to her face "hey you actually should take it we would really like it if you did" i don't think it's weird or out of character for her to think about it.