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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by shidly View Post
    Can we not do this? Let's stop pretending it takes anything other than raw time spent in-game to accomplish anything. The only difference in between you and a "shit player" is hours played.

    In that context is it really something to brag about?
    There are guilds that clear the same content I do on 6 hours a week. You have no argument.
    Quote Originally Posted by rogoth View Post
    I'm glad you brought up IQ, the last standardised IQ test I took I scored a 127, the threshold for 'Genius' is 140, and the threshold for 'Gifted Genius' is 165+, based on the fact the global average IQ is 84, and the fact you're likely Americanwhere the national IQ is BELOW the global average and falling consistently which has led to calls for global intervention in your abysmal education system, I feel you have VERY LITTLE room to talk about IQ levels, but thanks for trying.

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by durrtygoodz View Post
    There are guilds that clear the same content I do on 6 hours a week. You have no argument.
    Man brings his car to a shop because he's got an issue. Mechanic looks at the car, spends 10 minutes under the hood to fix the problem, and bills the customer for one hour of labor (the minimum).

    The customer is shocked, "What do you mean one hour? It took you 10 minutes!"

    The mechanic replied, "True, but it took me 20 years to learn how to do it in 10 minutes."

    Those guilds didn't start off clearing that raid in 6 hours. They beat their head against a wall for endless hours to be able to clear it now, at the end of the xpac, in 6.

    This elitism is dumb as hell. You are no better than any other player, your /played is just bigger. Congrats! Don't conflate the results of endless hours of practice with talent.

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    No, we need the items they've removed in the name of 'prestige' bringing back if anything. I loathe being pigeon-holed into content I don't enjoy for fear rewards being removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by That guy maybe View Post
    You have Elite pvp sets and current mythic raid sets for transmogs. If transmog isn't your thing, then there's titles and mounts for those same activities
    Still, it would be nice to have a little more variety and options.

    Also, I just have to say, I find myself distracted by your avatar and signature whenever I see them. Well played.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shidly View Post

    Those guilds didn't start off clearing that raid in 6 hours. They beat their head against a wall for endless hours to be able to clear it now, at the end of the xpac, in 6.
    No, I mean, there are guild that raid literally 6 hours a week, every week, never anything more, and achieve cutting edge. You're making a fool of yourself.
    Quote Originally Posted by rogoth View Post
    I'm glad you brought up IQ, the last standardised IQ test I took I scored a 127, the threshold for 'Genius' is 140, and the threshold for 'Gifted Genius' is 165+, based on the fact the global average IQ is 84, and the fact you're likely Americanwhere the national IQ is BELOW the global average and falling consistently which has led to calls for global intervention in your abysmal education system, I feel you have VERY LITTLE room to talk about IQ levels, but thanks for trying.

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by durrtygoodz View Post
    Imagine Blizzard took a poll on if there should be more prestigious rewards in game. 1% would vote yes, the people who would be able to obtain such rewards. Then you'd get the 99% voting no, people too shit to get the rewards and would rather fuck top players out of them, rather than think of the long term health and sustainability of the game.
    What makes that 1% more important that they need (demand) extra incentive from Blizzard? Are those 1% paying more? Are those 1% bringing more income for Blizzard?

    So you think catering to the 1% of the player base is important for the health of the game?

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Teri View Post
    Gold isn't prestige when it can be Exchanged (bought), via tokens.
    But then again everything can be bought in this game for gold.

    Mythic+ runs, Arena carrys, Mythic gear, Mythic mount drops etc etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yehat View Post
    But then again everything can be bought in this game for gold.

    Mythic+ runs, Arena carrys, Mythic gear, Mythic mount drops etc etc.
    Can't compare player run economy to a vendor item. You can't "buy" mythic mounts on day 1.

    Buying gear/runs/mounts/carries are possible because content can be overgeared, especially previous tiers or lower difficulty.

    Also Arena gear/mounts doesn't always need to have the #1 spot to get X reward depending on what it is, unlike old grand marshal where it really was 1 or a few people getting it at a time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nutrition View Post
    I think mounts don't really work anymore to be honest they are just to common of a drop. I struggle to even recall what mounts I gained in legion beyond the underwater one and class specific ones.

    I think there was a dragon one maybe?
    then you really didnt play legion.

    I got a coolwarframe, a really cool demon dog, and an amazing infernal mount, others got those and also a twisted dranei demon dog, aswell as lots of cool water mounts and rep mounts.
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    Yes it needs.

  11. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by FelPlague View Post
    then you really didnt play legion.

    I got a coolwarframe, a really cool demon dog, and an amazing infernal mount, others got those and also a twisted dranei demon dog, aswell as lots of cool water mounts and rep mounts.
    Might just be I hit the diminished reward spot myself. I already had a fel warframe.

    I don't know 0ersonally it's gotten to the point where for me a mount is a mount there isn't a reason to go off the beaten path for one. Maybe instead add cosmetic option like the mage fire orbs or quivers to achievements like glory of the hero/ raider and keep them as the sole source. Something to get people off the beaten path and add that wow factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nutrition View Post
    Might just be I hit the diminished reward spot myself. I already had a fel warframe.

    I don't know 0ersonally it's gotten to the point where for me a mount is a mount there isn't a reason to go off the beaten path for one. Maybe instead add cosmetic option like the mage fire orbs or quivers to achievements like glory of the hero/ raider and keep them as the sole source. Something to get people off the beaten path and add that wow factor.
    Your felwarframe does not have wings and a super cool mountspecial animations.
    But for example let me link some very unique mounts BFA added
    http://www.warcraftmounts.com/mounts...sharptalon.php
    http://www.warcraftmounts.com/mounts/darkwaterskate.php
    http://www.warcraftmounts.com/mounts/felglowmanaray.php
    http://www.warcraftmounts.com/mounts...edwarframe.php
    http://www.warcraftmounts.com/mounts/acidbelcher.php
    http://www.warcraftmounts.com/mounts...ndirigible.php
    http://www.warcraftmounts.com/mounts/fishmount.php
    http://www.warcraftmounts.com/mounts/ratstallion.php
    http://www.warcraftmounts.com/mounts...nddevourer.php
    http://www.warcraftmounts.com/mounts...nwarturtle.php
    http://www.warcraftmounts.com/mounts/bloodfangwidow.php
    http://www.warcraftmounts.com/mounts...zeinfernal.php
    http://www.warcraftmounts.com/mounts/fathomdweller.php
    http://www.warcraftmounts.com/mounts...rstormwing.php
    http://www.warcraftmounts.com/mounts/midnight.php


    Then the antoran hounds and the Ur'zul, as both are not on the werbsite,
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  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Nutrition View Post
    It used to have them in the past in the forms of hard to obtain mounts and titles but it feels like those rewards have been oversaturated to the point where they feel almost meaningless. The mage tower and other unlockable weapon skins in legion seem a step in the right direction but I don't know how well they will stand out once we return to weapon drops.

    Does anyone else think wow needs some kind of reward for difficult parts of the game that isn't simply recolored and eventually given out freely to everyone? Some kind of thropy prize in the same vein as pvp elite skins?

    Sorry this is kind of ranty it's a tricky subject to sum up.

    As you said, we already have them. Challenging tasks that are time restricted, which means you can't just cheese to complete in the next expansion.
    Mother pus bucket!

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    NO, absolutely not, or well, at least when it comes to cosmetics.

    Items that improve your characters, like actual gear and/or other improvements, like powerful consumeables, enchants etc can surely require some prestige and effort to get.

    But cosmetics, mounts, pets, toys, transmog etc should NOT require an insane amount of effort or skill to obtain. They are cosmetic and doesn't improve your characters per se. In fact, I would love to see a bigger stock of these things in vendors, both ingame and in the actual shop OR include some kind of loot boxes in WoW that award mounts, pets, toys etc (even old ones with a current source), that you get from playing the game or buys.

    People dislike loot boxes however for some reason, but as long as they don't give you any game-improving items (like gear) and are obtainable with both ingame and IRL means, they are like a perfect system. Overwatch is flawless in this as an example!
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  15. #75
    if by prestige you mean an endless grind sort of thing to increase some number then definitely no. if you rather mean things like titles or rare transmogs or mounts then yeah I would say it’s a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teri View Post
    Can't compare player run economy to a vendor item. You can't "buy" mythic mounts on day 1.

    Buying gear/runs/mounts/carries are possible because content can be overgeared, especially previous tiers or lower difficulty.

    Also Arena gear/mounts doesn't always need to have the #1 spot to get X reward depending on what it is, unlike old grand marshal where it really was 1 or a few people getting it at a time.
    wasnt it like insanely more difficult to have 2 high warlords any given week? like they both had to have way more honor than a single one

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