Sylvanas ebbs closer to definitely dieing.

[therealstegblob]

---snip---

Infracted.

[Friendlyimmolation]

You can also say jaina first her dads death and then the death of Theramore

Tldr you can stretch it to be anything.

[Mehrunes]

You can also say jaina first her dads death and then the death of Theramore

Tldr you can stretch it to be anything.

How about Gamon? First death - vanilla. Second death - MoP if you ignore him. Gamon the Voidbringer confirmed.

[Aucald]

How about Gamon? First death - vanilla. Second death - MoP if you ignore him. Gamon the Voidbringer confirmed.

Gamon will save us... from the tyranny of the Light.

[Time Sage]

Do you know another main female character that has in lore died twice and is awaiting a third death?

Azaroth herself. It's fortelling that we're gonna have to deal with old gods this expansion. First death was the Sundering, second was the cataclysm, and third was being stabbed.

[evermynd]

Do you know another main female character that has in lore died twice and is awaiting a third death?

This quote has already been fulfilled. It is likely a reference to azeroth. I believe it was tyrande who said she has witnessed the death of azeroth twice and prays she doesnt see a third. Sargeras stab is the third.

[Haven]

Killing major characters is inevitable when progressing the story and never easy. Not everyone has a heroic death or one that comes unexpectedly

So someone's in for an expectable, non-heroic death. Garrosh 2.0, incoming...

[Aucald]

Killing major characters is inevitable when progressing the story and never easy. Not everyone has a heroic death or one that comes unexpectedly

So someone's in for an expectable, non-heroic death. Garrosh 2.0, incoming...

Spoiler alert: Topper McNabb dies in a tragic panhandling incident.

But on topic, it's hard to say what this is really pointing to - *someone* of note is going to die in BfA, that seems pretty much a given, but something keeps telling me that it may not go in the way that everyone is expecting it to (if only because it's the way everyone seems to be expecting it go to).

[Blizzard Moneybot]

"Killing major characters is inevitable when progressing the story and never easy. Not everyone has a heroic death or one that comes unexpectedly."

Maybe it means Malfurion will die from gangrene and night elves can be rid of his bullshit forever.

- - - Updated - - -

Spoiler alert: Topper McNabb dies in a tragic panhandling incident.

ya he got into a fight with pathetic refugee night elf panhandlers roaming the streets of Shitwind and got shived to death.

[TheramoreIsTheBomb]

"Killing major characters is inevitable when progressing the story and never easy. Not everyone has a heroic death or one that comes unexpectedly."

Quote from the Warcraft Story Crew at E3.

fine then. by this narrative anduin should die by inhaling a fart bubble and choking on it.

[Mehrunes]

The issue here is for Sylvanas to fit the situation, people are judging it by literal deaths. Which means you'd have to take into account all her literal deaths, which are more than 3 already.

Meanwhile, if you're going by metaphorical deaths, I'm sure you could still argue Sylvanas, but then Alleria also fits the bill.

Alleria is also the one who had herself filled with the void. ("Her heart is a crater, and we have filled it")

Even if one discounts Sylvanas' first death because Arthas created a new Sylvanas out of nothing or whatever, there remains the issue of how or why would her third death cause an Old God/Void outbreak.

As per the Windrunner reunion comic, we know that Void isn't exactly keen on Sylvanas. Chances are, going by the specific remarks, it's because Void can't control undead and, when combined with their nature, undead are in stark opposition to what the Void desires. That throws any Alliance brilliance about how Sylvanas (and Vol'jin) have been manipulated by the Old Gods/Void all of the window.

As such, she wouldn't do it on her own. Because if it requires her dying, yeah, Sylvanas isn't going to sacrifice herself for the glory of the Void. Especially after she called Alleria an abomination due to being infused with it.

Which leaves the option of the aforementioned Void outbreak being an automatic result of her third death. Which leads to the questions I asked at the start. How would Sylvanas' third death automatically lead to it? Why would it be the case? Other than Void's antagonistic behavior towards her, likely due to the reasons outlined above, there is no connection between the two. No piece of information suggesting Sylvanas is some sort of Void key, or who would turn her into that.

Alleria on the other hand, can already tear Void portals. Even accidentally. That can let Void forces pour through. If she were to fall to the Void, which would be her third metaphorical death, she could repeat what she did in Quel'Danas. With premeditation this time. If further empowered by her new masters, on much larger scale.

Hell, now that Alleria is Void's beacon to Azeroth, the Void Lords likely don't even need N'zoth to succeed. The Void Lords already fully manifested in the physical plane before. It's just that they couldn't do shit against adult Titans and they had no clue where World Souls are and as such resorted to throwing Old Gods at random. Now Titans are sealed with Sargeras. As some Void weirdos say in BfA, the Legion kept the balance but now is no more. If the Void Lords could use Alleria as a beacon, they could appear on Azeroth directly and potentially corrupt it themselves. Or at least cover it in Old Gods from head to toe.

[Solitare-sp]

All this talk of Alleria being the one who died twice is mind boggling. There is a HUGE difference between "feeling" like you have died twice, and actually dying twice.

Sylvanas however, as the banshee queen, HAS died twice.

Hell, technically our player character has died twice as well, once to the Lich King and another when Dadgar blew us up in WoD.

Three if you count being killed by Argus as well.

[Deleted]

Do you know another main female character that has in lore died twice and is awaiting a third death?

Azeroth itself...
1) Sundering
2) Cataclysm
3rd will probably from the wound left by Sargeras come end of BFA after all the mass Azerite the heroes are farming isn't being regenerated as quick as its coming out :P

[Kwento]

The whole “3rd death” prophecy is obviously Alleria. They even hinted on it in her dialogue with Tyralion where she said that she feels like she died twice already.

[Deleted]

That could also refer to Jaina.

She died once when Arthas died. She died the 2nd time when Theramore blew up. And she will probably die a 3rd time in BFA.

[Syegfryed]

the quote, for me, is especially to vol'jin death, an even more disrespect t hi, cause he is the only to die pathetically

[Daevied]

Azeroth has died two times: from cataclysm and the blade of sargeras.

And it is obvious now that Voljin designated Sylvannas as the warchief exactly for this expac, shes the only horde char capable of fight the void and win. Maybe the Zandalari lore will reveal this.

[ello]

"Killing major characters is inevitable when progressing the story and never easy. Not everyone has a heroic death or one that comes unexpectedly."

Bolded makes me think they are referring to Vol'jin here.

"At the hour of her third death, she will usher in our coming"

Sylvanas has died three times. Chronicles 3 specifically referred to her suicide as her second death.

Some pockets of the Scourge managed to break free of his control. Packs of undead in the Eastern Kingdoms continued to follow the Lich King’s old directives, mindlessly attacking anyone who dared to trespass in the Plaguelands. The most troubling blow to Bolvar’s hold over the Scourge resulted from an unexpected event: the second death of Sylvanas Windrunner.

Chronicle Volume 3 (p. 188).


/thread

[Nefarious Tea]

Fun fact: ebb and closer are antonyms.

[Flurryfang]

Sylvanas is not gonna die. Blizzard would literally be doing a 2nd Garrosh, step by step, and even they know that doing such a thing is creativily suicide. It would be redoing the past just with a different character and it would just spell out stupidity.

We will though proberly see some characters die in BFA, which have an obvious end. Who those people then turn out to be is a completly different topic.