Veng is just sad in duels and world PvP now.

[Deleted]

More like a DPS with no snare, less survivability and less DPS in PvP.

Good, as it should be

[Ifeanychukwu]

I'll remember that next time you're in the queue for 30 min waiting for a tank to sign up to carry your ass through a dungeon.

I doubt you're the single person carrying the burden of the entire dungeon queue.

[Saverem]

I doubt you're the single person carrying the burden of the entire dungeon queue.

Well I'm not talking about just myself, but tanks in general. A lot of them PvP and will probably reroll DPS in BfA since they'd prefer to not suck in Warmode. I'll probably be one of those, will reroll healer or something if it's as bad as it is in beta.

Less tanks in general = higher queue times for dungeons since they are the limiting reagent.

[judgementofantonidas]

No I don't choose to engage tanks in the open world. When I'm 980 il and a monk whos 945 can chunk 40% of my life with a single keg smash there's a serious problem with tanks in the open world. You should be heavily sacrificing damage for the insane survival and self healing that you have by playing a tank spec.

that monk does not exist. you are exhagerating.

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Well I'm not talking about just myself, but tanks in general. A lot of them PvP and will probably reroll DPS in BfA since they'd prefer to not suck in Warmode. I'll probably be one of those, will reroll healer or something if it's as bad as it is in beta.

Less tanks in general = higher queue times for dungeons since they are the limiting reagent.

I sure won't be tanking if they go back to the old tanks shouldnt do damage bullshit.

[Zyky]

that monk does not exist. you are exhagerating.

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I sure won't be tanking if they go back to the old tanks shouldnt do damage bullshit.

He does exist, regardless of if you want to acknowledge it or not, also work on your spelling before you attempt to retort arguments based on facts.

[Saverem]

He does exist, regardless of if you want to acknowledge it or not, also work on your spelling before you attempt to retort arguments based on facts.

Except he is right and you are wrong and no amount of ad hominem attacks on his grammar is going to change that. If KS is taking 40% of your HP then you're at 880 ilvl, not 980.

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Duels.

Thread close.

Why?

Blizz have introduced the Dueler's Guild in BFA, with rewards, so dueling is a legitimate topic now.

[Anufis]

Why do people forget that tanks are often used as FC and for point defence.
In Legion as DH when I stay near flag in Gilneas, for 3-5 enemies in random bg it can take between 40 to 80 seconds to try and check flag.

I'll also post this here www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-54IpdsWUM

It's for people who say there is no place for tanks in pvp.

[Zyky]

Except he is right and you are wrong and no amount of ad hominem attacks on his grammar is going to change that. If KS is taking 40% of your HP then you're at 880 ilvl, not 980.

You truly have no idea how hard keg smash hits for when it crits and procs the second keg do you? Obviously you haven't got a clue.

[Saverem]

You truly have no idea how hard keg smash hits for when it crits and procs the second keg do you? Obviously you haven't got a clue.

I main a BrM... YOU'RE the one who hasn't got a glue. Unless your awesome 980 main which I'm sure you're so good at has 4 mill HP, or unless KS procs 3 times off itself and they all crit, it's not taking 40% of your HP. Even with the shoulder leggo that increases its damage by 25% and gives it 2 charges, it's not taking 40% of your HP.

[Zyky]

I main a BrM... YOU'RE the one who hasn't got a glue. Unless your awesome 980 main which I'm sure you're so good at has 4 mill HP, or unless KS procs 3 times off itself and they all crit, it's not taking 40% of your HP. Even with the shoulder leggo that increases its damage by 25% and gives it 2 charges, it's not taking 40% of your HP.

So you main BrM and complain about Veng DH nerfs the entire thread, that's believable

[Sammonoske]

To be honest tanks shouldn't be anywhere near the top, tanks should be dead last for PvP.

Right next to healers.

[Saverem]

So you main BrM and complain about Veng DH nerfs the entire thread, that's believable

It's much more believable than your 980 getting 40% by a KS. Feel free to look at my posts on Monk forum if you don't believe me. I actually have proof unlike some people in here.

[judgementofantonidas]

He does exist, regardless of if you want to acknowledge it or not, also work on your spelling before you attempt to retort arguments based on facts.

answered well enough for me. no need for me to respond.

[Deleted]

WoW PvP is not and has never been balanced around 1v1 encounters.

=> To be more precise : WoW PvP is not and has never been balanced... and will never be.

[Deathquoi]

=> To be more precise : WoW PvP is not and has never been balanced... and will never be.

No, you took what I said, which is verifiable fact, and turned it into your opinion.

[Deleted]

Literally nobody cares about the viability of tanks in a duel. What a complete non issue. Tanks are for holding flags and nothing else in pvp.

[Saverem]

Literally nobody cares about the viability of tanks in a duel. What a complete non issue. Tanks are for holding flags and nothing else in pvp.

Obviously some people care or else this wouldn't have gotten to 4 pages.