The Next Warfront - Where do you want it to be?

[Accendor]

Its PvE content, you never "lose" LFR-style PvE content unless you really suck - and in such a case you can also easily lose a Warfront. That argument is so silly, do you expect them to not make any future Dungeons because most of the time we succeed in killing the boss anyway?

Yeah, so make no more LFR style content
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[MikeBogina]

The Horde really doesn't have a large base for the Alliance to attack. The Alliance had Theramore which was more than the Horde had so it was nuked, but then the Alliance now have Stromgarde(how i have no clue) which then puts them again at one major base over the Horde. The Horde just have never been given a large base outside of their main cities, so they would have to use a city or somehow build up a new base just to be used for this.

[Sanguinerd]

I'd like somewhere NOT about Orcs or Humans that way the buildings might look a little different for once and we might get gear not tailored for just two races.

Sick of it.

[Azahel]

Stonetalon is not only a good choice, but it already has a warfront style thing going on already, with two bases on opposite sides of a battlefield and all.
Another place that has just that is the barrens, which even has a small world pvp thing going on.
And last but not least, swamp of sorrows not only has a two bases separated by a battlefield, but also has a whole questline recreating the days of the first warcraft games, complete with expansion names for quests and introduction of units on the same order as the RTS. Although the quests end with an Alliance victory, it would be a perfect location for a warfront.

[hulkgor]

or Ashenvale, have the Night Elves and Draenei fight the Orcs

It already exists, it's called Warsong Gulch.

[Kathranis]

It already exists, it's called Warsong Gulch.

And the humans and undead already fight in Arathi Basin.

[Cosmic Janitor]

Not liking the concept and how the only decent version of the reward will probably be wasted on <0.1% of the player base again, but if we absolutely have to I'd welcome any location that would result in another theme that isn't green fuglies vs derpy fuglies.

[Wishblade]

Although it's probably a long shot, I would personally love to see a Southern Barrens, Bael Modan (I think that's what it was called?) Warfront, Tauren vs. Dwarves, simply because it would be a good excuse to give both races a little more time in the spotlight, as well as give their architecture a much needed facelift.

This would be great indeed.

Basically I'd hope for other races fighting in future Warfronts. The Humans and Orcs can have fun in Arathi, then others can go fight elsewhere in the world, like this particular example.

[Dizson]

I hope they don't put more warfronts into the game, it is a failed boring concept, we don't need more reskins of the same shit. Warfronts should have been PvP based.

[Super Kami Dende]

Since warfronts are only a scripted event that you basically can not lose I would prefer they focus on other aspects of the game instead of adding a second one.

Apart from Raiding, dungeons, what else is there that basically you can't lose?

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I hope they don't put more warfronts into the game, it is a failed boring concept, we don't need more reskins of the same shit. Warfronts should have been PvP based.

thats what battlegrounds are for.

[Aeula]

The Barrens is next.

I personally don't care though, they don't really advance the story in any meaningful way beyond 'They're fighting over this area now'. It feels very robotic and not all that intuitive. Although the zone graphical updates and accompanying mount drops are nice.

The Hinterlands maybe? I'd like to capture a Wildhammer gryphon for a mount and the Alliance would get to kill those filthy Forest Trolls, hopefully destroying them for good. It's a win-win.

I'd have said the Ghostlands, but I don't want the Alliance to capture it every other week and bring an influx of PvP trolls to Silvermoon.

[Dizson]

Apart from Raiding, dungeons, what else is there that basically you can't lose?

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thats what battlegrounds are for.

and that it should have been, a battleground with pve element that would increase replayability much more. Have you played warfronts? After the first one you will be like cool, then next time okay, then next time meh and it will be just another mindless thing that is not even challanging to do, with enemy players it would play out differently every game.

[Khaza-R]

I hope every Warfront will focus on different races, which will show with transmog sets. Also, they should happen in old world as excuse for revamping outdated zones. So:

- for 8.0 - Wafront: Arathi - focused on Orcs and Humans (duh)
- for 8.1 - Warfront: Barrens - focused on Taurens and Night Elves
- for 8.2 - Warfront: Gilneas - Undead vs Worgens
- for 8.3 - Warfront: Stranglethorn - Trolls vs Dwarves or some Warfront focused on Blood Elves/Draenei

I think 4 Warfronts are realistic estimate. And of course it would mean in 7.3 war is still going on, we can't get another warfront if we'll start holding hands (unless it will be Warfront H+A vs. Eeevil).

In the War Campaign, the Alliance already takes Gilneas (off screen) and pushes the Horde to only holding a piece of Silverpine, Alterac and Andoral. I would say a Gilneas Warfront is out.

[Super Kami Dende]

and that it should have been, a battleground with pve element that would increase replayability much more. Have you played warfronts? After the first one you will be like cool, then next time okay, then next time meh and it will be just another mindless thing that is not even challanging to do, with enemy players it would play out differently every game.

No it wouldn't, since BG's are the exact same objectives everytime and if anything Unpopular BG's like IoC and SotA and WpVP areas like Wintergrasp and Ashran have shown people dislike PvE elements/Objectives within PvP areas. Playing against other players doesn't magically make a BG/Area feel like it has different content, as proven by Ashran or Wintergrasp.

And yes I have done Warfronts and enjoyed them quite a bit. But like all content know eventually they will wear out.

[Dizson]

No it wouldn't, since BG's are the exact same objectives everytime and if anything Unpopular BG's like IoC and SotA and WpVP areas like Wintergrasp and Ashran have shown people dislike PvE elements/Objectives within PvP areas. Playing against other players doesn't magically make a BG/Area feel like it has different content, as proven by Ashran or Wintergrasp.

And yes I have done Warfronts and enjoyed them quite a bit. But like all content know eventually they will wear out.

That is why we don't need more of it with reskins.

[Super Kami Dende]

That is why we don't need more of it with reskins.

>Reskins.

You keep using that Word yet I don't think you know what it means.

[Nyel]

If you look through the news (it is pretty old by now) the war campaign mission table details the campaigns on both sides. The Alliance still holds parts of Ashenvale and Darkshore. We don't know about Feralas (and tbh with Shandris being a main character it WOULD make sense to go there). Similarly Horde holds most of Arathi still, has claimed SFK, still controls the Sepulcher (which may even have docks) and is contesting Fenris Island (a possible Worgen vs Forsaken Warfront in Silverpine)

I think considering that Warfronts and Arena season share armor looks that we will get more Warfronts (or at least that's the plan). The tech works very well so I am not worried (it's not like with WoD when the new tech was so buggy forever and thus expanding it was a mess). So one Warfront per raid tier is a good expectation.

And! with armor tiers stripped from raids, it might be that BfA is accepted as having four raid tiers by everyone (Blizzard e.g. probably considers Legion having four with EN+ToV being separate to NH). So that would mean four warfronts.

My problem with Warfronts on Kalimdor / Eastern Kingdoms is that they feel so disconnected from the two new continents. I don't know if it's smart to split focus so much during the expansion. As I said, I am sceptical if there will be more Warfronts because they feel a bit disconnected from everything (except the surficial faction war storyline) but if there will be more I hope they're going all the way with them.

What I can imagine is that Kul'Tiras and Zandalar are some kind of military strongholds which will be the hub for conquering the opposing faction's zones, maybe like this:



Kul'Tiras and Gilneas (Alliance) are going to conquer Silverpine Forest and Tirisfal. That would leave the Plaguelands and Eversong Woods / Ghostlands the only (part-)Horde zones.

Zandalari and Orcs / Trolls (Horde) are going to conquer the last Alliance outpost in Theramore (this will make Jaina even more furious) which will expel Alliance from Kalimdor. The only problem here is Azuremyst / Bloodmyst Isle. I really don't think they'll matter because they're so disconnected from everything else.

Another note: I don't think BfA will have 4 Tiers. I think even 3 is a stretch at the moment - I think we'll have Ul'dir as (BfA) T0, Azshara as T1 and maybe Old Gods as T2; on top of that one additional faction based raid (maybe a seafight?) either as a filler between Ul'dir and Azshara or as some kind of Trial of the Crusader 2.0 - this could be the interlude to Nazjatar and Azshara (Alliance and Horde fleets are sinking and they're discovering the hidden Nazjatar or the Naga forces are interrupting the seafight and destroy both fleets).

The last question might be were N'zoth's prison is. Is it underneath the sea? Or is it maybe between Tirisfal and Western Plaguelands in the zone that's on the map but not yet implemented? Do the Alliance forces disturb Azeroth's ley lines or something like that when they're marching towards Blood Elf territory and N'zoth's prison breaks?

And there's one major problem with Warfronts overall: if faction war is not the main focus of BfA (I think we all agree on this somehow) one new Warfront in every content patch is just too much. Where does the other part of the story get evolved when we focus so much on Warfronts?

[Dizson]

>Reskins.

You keep using that Word yet I don't think you know what it means.

Pretty sure when it comes to warfronts they won't change anything but be it in different zones

No it wouldn't, since BG's are the exact same objectives everytime and if anything Unpopular BG's like IoC and SotA and WpVP areas like Wintergrasp and Ashran have shown people dislike PvE elements/Objectives within PvP areas. Playing against other players doesn't magically make a BG/Area feel like it has different content, as proven by Ashran or Wintergrasp.

And yes I have done Warfronts and enjoyed them quite a bit. But like all content know eventually they will wear out.

Except all those bgs were really badly designed, even AV was really unbalanced and it is now, so yes of course people don't like it.

[Khaza-R]

I hope they don't put more warfronts into the game, it is a failed boring concept, we don't need more reskins of the same shit. Warfronts should have been PvP based.

If they made it PvP based people would whine they forced to PvP just like they did with WG, TB and Ashran

[Dizson]

If they made it PvP based people would whine they forced to PvP just like they did with WG, TB and Ashran

People whine for everything, we'll see how it plays out but it will be just another chore that you easily go trough without thinking like world quests.