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    Quote Originally Posted by Total Crica View Post
    It's not about what I believe. It's about the fact that those are the legal charges filed against her. They will need to prove those charges in court, but if they are proven true, that's sexual assault (as long as the people she was doing it to never consented)
    The notion can be dismissed instantly even if the claims made are true.

    See my post above.

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    So, what I got out of this was cops were getting paid to spend tax dollars at strip clubs.
    If I was the judge I'd throw it out and recommend an investigation into the department.

    F Ohio for even having this law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zugbug View Post
    So, what I got out of this was cops were getting paid to spend tax dollars at strip clubs.
    If I was the judge I'd throw it out and recommend an investigation into the department.

    F Ohio for even having this law.
    I would just outright fire all the officers involved and notify their spouses that they LET her touch them and did not resist. That would be fun.

    I'm an evil troll like that sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderaan View Post
    That chain of events does not support the narrative of sexual assault.

    You want ME to believe that 3 different officers, trained for physical combat, are unable to stop a frail old pornstar from "assaulting" them?

    No, they let her do it, it's consent. (Please make sure to notify their spouses too.) If this was assault and the officers really believed it was so, they would have put her down on the ground the moment the FIRST officer was touched.

    Case closed. Not guilty.
    exactly what i was thinking, 3 fucking times she managed it? are you even trying?

    i bet the officers were like, oh no please stop *strokes penis*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderaan View Post
    The notion can be dismissed instantly even if the claims made are true.

    See my post above.
    Incorrect. No one need fight off an agressor in order for it to be assault.

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    Cops are claiming she touched them during her act...but I’m sure her lawyer is telling the truth.

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    Charges have been dismissed.
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    Sounds like an easy bail.
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    This whole narrative is stupid all around. I would really like to see exactly how the law is worded that it actually allows for the arrest and charges in question. First off, it makes it sound like the law is to protect strippers from being touched(with the exception of family members, which is creepy and strange in and of itself). How does that translate to being illegal to "let" people touch her.

    In interpretation, it shouldn't be the dancer's responsibility to enforce the law in the case of unwanted touching. This should be supervised and enforced via the ownership and management of the facility. Putting the onus on the dancer to enforce it is just ridiculous. Should they report it? Of course, but come on, press charges on her if she DOESN'T report it? That's what the article insinuates.

    Now, if the other linked article is true, that detectives were "forced" to have their faces motor-boated, not once, but several times, then I think that she should be charged with something along the lines of sexual assault....but ONLY if the officers made it clear that they did not want the advance and attempted to prevent it.

    If they allowed it to happen, only to use it to arrest her and charge her based on that Ohio law in question, then they have really landed themselves in a grey area, as in order to charge her with "allowing someone to touch her", they would have in fact themselves "allowed her to allow them to touch her". It sounds stupid but they are literally breaking the Ohio law in pretty much the same manner as she is, no?

    Wouldn't this be the same as charging my wife, who is a retail manager, with theft, if she witnessed someone stealing something from her store but didn't stop it? The company policy clearly states that she is not allowed to pursue or confront a shoplifter, but SHOULD report it if she sees it. But it is against the law to steal, so if an undercover cop walks in, blatantly steals product in front of my wife and walks out the door, knowing she saw him, should he be allowed to walk right back in and charge her for theft? That's the same premise as charging a stripper for "not stopping someone from touching her".

    However, in the scenario referenced in the cnn article, it gets more complicated. Because that would be more like my wife stuffing product in the cops pockets and then letting them walk out the door. But here's the problem. If he walks out the door with the product willingly, he is breaking the law, knowingly stealing, as is my wife, for abetting the cop by concealing the product. But if she stuffs his pockets against his will, despite his attempts to get her to stop, and she then forces him out of the building, that is a different story.

    Long story short is that there are not enough details of what exactly happened to really know. I would really like to see what really happened and see where this goes. Unfortunately, this really has the inner workings of President Oompah-Loompah supporters doing whatever they can to set St-whore-my Daniels up to be discredited with her accusations. The funny part is that I would call that stooping really low for any normal person, but it is just business as usual for the Donald. Not that he orchestrated it(even though I could see him or his cronies doing just that), but just in general.

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    In the biggest news story of the past century whore gets arrested for whoring.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    Huh? Usually the stripper isn’t arrested but he other people.
    No, usually the "customer" gets a cruel goodbye from Bouncer Bubba, and cops are never involved.

    Let's all ride the Gish gallop.

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    Annnnnnd charges dismissed. I wonder why they were dismissed if they were so valid in the first place?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Annnnnnd charges dismissed. I wonder why they were dismissed if they were so valid in the first place?
    Because the objective was already achieved, much like with certain former presidential candidate. They now have the talking points of her being "criminal thug" regardless of facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Annnnnnd charges dismissed. I wonder why they were dismissed if they were so valid in the first place?
    Did you actually read what you posted? It explains very well why...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Right, they weren't legit charges in the first place.
    Under an Ohio law passed in 2007, an employee who regularly appears nude or seminude at a sexually oriented business is prohibited from touching patrons, except for family members.
    Because Daniels does not regularly appear at the club, the charges were dismissed, according to court documents.
    "I've determined that these crimes were not committed, based on the fact that Ms. Clifford has not made regular appearances at this establishment as required under the law," Columbus City Attorney Zach Klein said in a statement after reviewing the case.
    You could say so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serpha View Post
    Did you actually read what you posted? It explains very well why...
    Nah - why bother? Cadet Bone Spurs lies to everyone, about everything. His rabid followers care little for the truth and just need to be told they're "winning" to continue voting against their own interest.

    WTF does it matter any more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serpha View Post
    You could say so.
    We're talking about the big picture. You're talking about law, rules, truth, etc. They don't matter any more. Haven't you been paying attention at all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    Nah - why bother? Cadet Bone Spurs lies to everyone, about everything. His rabid followers care little for the truth and just need to be told they're "winning" to continue voting against their own interest.

    WTF does it matter any more?

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    We're talking about the big picture. You're talking about law, rules, truth, etc. They don't matter any more. Haven't you been paying attention at all?
    Your "title" is apt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post
    I read somewhere that she grabbed a cop's wiener.

    She probably have to see a judge and pay a fine.
    That'd be outside of this particular law. This is just a publicity stunt sort of thing on the part of some MAGA hat brigade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Total Crica View Post
    It's not about what I believe. It's about the fact that those are the legal charges filed against her. They will need to prove those charges in court, but if they are proven true, that's sexual assault (as long as the people she was doing it to never consented)
    If you willing walk into a strip club, and then whine about being assaulted, you deserve to be mocked until your last breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serpha View Post
    Your "title" is apt.
    My title? Sorry, not quite understanding what you're referencing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaxien View Post
    This whole narrative is stupid all around. I would really like to see exactly how the law is worded that it actually allows for the arrest and charges in question. First off, it makes it sound like the law is to protect strippers from being touched(with the exception of family members, which is creepy and strange in and of itself). How does that translate to being illegal to "let" people touch her.
    It's a no-contact law for strip clubs. Some states bar alcohol from strip clubs, some require pasties and g-strings, this state (Ohio) bans touching at strip clubs. As part of a sting, 3 strippers (her included) were arrested for violating the minor law. She was released because the law mentions the stripper has to be a regular stripper, and she was only a guest star at this club, not a regular performer.
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