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https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood...-trans-casting
No, this thread is not aimed at transgender people specifically. Rather at the folly of the claim that Character A should be played by people who fit into that box.
Did all the non-normative parts played throughout the years by normative actors escape the critics?
Oh yea, what is the fuss? To be reductive: Scarlet Johansson was set to play the role of a transgender man. Later, she dropped out, supposedly or partially due to the outrage this sparked.
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2018-07-20, 12:59 PM #1Titan
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Identity politics, case number who knows
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2018-07-20, 01:10 PM #2Herald of the Titans
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People who are offended by everything can not and should not be taken seriously.
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2018-07-20, 01:13 PM #3Warchief
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Agree, Grim. If only trans/gay people can play trans/gay people, I guess the opposite should also hold true by the logic of the people complaining about Scarlet Johansen's role (which she now dropped).
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2018-07-20, 01:15 PM #4Titan
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I feel bad for Scarlet Johansson, she really should fire her agent.
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2018-07-20, 01:33 PM #5Scarab Lord
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I read that the Black Widow stand alone movie is set to go and Marvel/Disney told her she had to drop this tranny role due to the irrational negative backlash it was receiving as they didn’t want it to impact black widow reception and box office.
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The cringiest thing though was her apology. Just sad.People working 2 jobs in the US (at least one part-time) - 7.8 Million (Roughly 4.9% of the workforce)
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2018-07-20, 01:35 PM #6Titan
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Ironically enough, I came across this after seeing a meme about it, how about Neil Patrick Harris played a straight man or Dustin Hoffman a disabled man
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2018-07-20, 01:46 PM #7Deleted
This is insanity. Take whatever artistic liberties you want with your own property. And the people who constantly get offended aren't even the issue, it's whoever is dumb enough to listen. Jesus Christ.
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2018-07-20, 01:52 PM #8The Undying
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Scarlet Johansson was singled out for playing a Japanese in Ghost in the Shell, maybe she didn't want to go through that again.
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2018-07-20, 01:54 PM #9Deleted
I am boggling my mind to think off a transgender actor that could fill that role.
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2018-07-20, 02:16 PM #10The Unstoppable Force
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The problem was small limited to just a few idiots on social media then she responded to it in what I could only describe as a bad marketing move which blew up the entire thing. Originally Posted by Grimbold21
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2018-07-20, 02:22 PM #11The Lightbringer
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Oh boy, another gaynst trans movie that heavily involves transition. How original.
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2018-07-20, 02:24 PM #12Over 9000!
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I'm pretty sure it didn't.Did all the non-normative parts played throughout the years by normative actors escape the critics?
http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/06/06/...-the-huntsman/
There are much more, it's not that uncommon. Most people don't care unless someone makes a thread on a forum about it.
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2018-07-20, 02:26 PM #13Banned
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She is a quality actress, and would have done a great job, most likely. Anyone who got upset over her getting the role needs to grow some thicker skin.
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2018-07-20, 02:37 PM #14Special Inquisitor
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Was the movie about pre transition into post? If so, I don't see how she could reasonably play a post transition trans man. Those dudes tend to get buff as fuck due to reasons.
Bit makes it seem like it was a pre hormone transman so tbh it could have worked, but i really don't see her face convincing anyone she is a dude in the context of that story.Deadline described the film as a "fact-based story of a woman who flourished in a male-dominated business of massage parlors and prostitution by essentially taking on the physical identity of a man." But rather than "essentially taking on" a man's identity, though, Dante was a transgender man who took on the mob during the 1970s in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania while relying on gay community for support. Johansson, meanwhile, is a cisgender woman.
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2018-07-20, 02:43 PM #15The Lightbringer
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Lot of debate over this specifically because "transition" gets mentioned a lot, and I'm pretty sure the media doesn't really separate social, medical, and legal transition. Either way, I hope the movie dies. Can't think of a single major trans movie that hasn't been a garbage fire on the concept or didn't involve prostitution. This one has both. Originally Posted by Algy
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2018-07-20, 02:44 PM #16The Insane
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People outraged by a young [white] girl dressed up as an Indian, or wearing traditional Chinese clothing for Halloween...
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2018-07-20, 02:45 PM #17Banned
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Are you sure? Originally Posted by Algy
Compare her face to a young Christopher Walken.
I'm serious, they are identical.
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2018-07-20, 02:49 PM #18Special Inquisitor
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I think the Danish Girl avoided the "trans people are prostitutes" trope at least, but my feelings about that one were still not completely positive lol. Originally Posted by GreenGoldSharpie
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2018-07-20, 02:50 PM #19The Undying
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Sure, it generally makes sense to have a trans person played by a trans person. Doesn't that actually seem kind of obvious? I don't think you need to get into any identity politics to notice that someone who actually is a given thing is going to look and sound the part more than someone that's pretending. Denying that seems like it would require believing that trans people aren't at all visually or aurally different than cis people, which seems like a hell of a claim.
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2018-07-20, 02:51 PM #20Special Inquisitor
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Okay I can see it. In a time where people didn't over analyze someones appearance in the sense of "is that a dude or not" it could be reasonable. Her lips would betray her to me the entire time though. >.< Originally Posted by Machismo
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