View Poll Results: Is it right to shoot a bear that is attacking you in its territory?

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  1. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by Elim Garak View Post
    It's ok to shoot a bear while it's sleeping in its lair during winter. Twice. Trice. You can also rape it. Whatever you fancy. I don't care.
    I would like to see you enter a bear lair just to witness the fun stuff after.
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  2. #142
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    Yes. If I'm armed, and it comes down to a situation where it's me or the bear, damn right the bear is gonna get shot. If there are any consequences for shooting the bear, at least I'll be alive to deal with them later.

    And yeah, I wouldn't just stand by and watch someone get eaten or mauled to death if I had the means to help.

    Both of those regardless of where it happens.
    Last edited by Cidzor; 2018-08-01 at 06:26 PM.

  3. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by Venant View Post
    A new incident is sparking outrage around the world, that revolves around a Polar Bear being shot for attempting to eat a cruise ship employee. The most obvious criticism is that they shouldn't have been in the Polar Bear's territory, but does that mean they should have allowed their fellow employee to be eaten by the bear?

    Do bears and humans have equal rights? Some might see this like a burglar breaking into your house, and if you were a bear the most logical thing to do to a burglar would be to eat it. Of course, if you believe humans have superior rights to bears, then this argument, and the arguments of the PETA crowd in general, sound ludicrous.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/polar-b...ay-2018-07-30/
    Way to have a loaded question.

    They are lower on the food chain, thus by natural selection we get to choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dwarfhamster View Post
    You shouldn't have put yourself in the situation where you're in the bear's territory to begin with.
    You never go explorer in the woods or camping?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnusthegreat View Post
    Just entering territory is an attack to the bear.

    Polar Bears don't have territories.


    https://polarbearsinternational.org/...bears/habitat/
    Unlike other large carnivores, polar bears don’t have territories, partly because their sea ice habitat is always moving and seasonally changing.

    Scientists believe that most polar bears limit travel to home ranges of a few hundred miles. However, they know of one satellite-tracked female that trekked 4,796 kiometers (2,980) miles—from Alaska's Prudhoe Bay to Greenland to Canada's Ellesmere Island and back to Greenland.

  4. #144
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnusthegreat View Post
    Just entering territory is an attack to the bear. The bear was trying to defend itself against an intruder. It doesn't matter if a beaver enters a bear's territory - it's still aggression. What species you are doesn't matter. Does anyone have to respect the bear's territory? No. But it doesn't change the fact that the bear was defending itself.
    But, it does matter what species you are. When you are the most destructive and aggressive species on the planet, then it matters. The bear might have been defending itself against another but as soon as it attacked the other, the rest of the 'pack' had permission to defend too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    Polar Bears don't have territories.


    https://polarbearsinternational.org/...bears/habitat/
    Actually a good read..
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  5. #145
    Quote Originally Posted by Jettisawn View Post
    Polar Bears don't have territories.


    https://polarbearsinternational.org/...bears/habitat/
    Then I'm clearly not talking about a polar bear and the OP is misled. I was simply answering the question posed in the OP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gehco View Post
    But, it does matter what species you are. When you are the most destructive and aggressive species on the planet, then it matters. The bear might have been defending itself against another but as soon as it attacked the other, the rest of the 'pack' had permission to defend too.

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    Actually a good read..
    No, acts of aggression are just that - what you are doesn't matter. The bear just perceived a lesser threat than was actually there. A beaver isn't going to set any alarms off to the bear so it probably doesn't care. A large animal like a human, the bear believes it needs to defend itself. It has no concept of technology and doesn't realize it has no chance.

    This is what happens in nature - you defend yourself, you might just get killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonnusthegreat View Post
    No, acts of aggression are just that - what you are doesn't matter. The bear just perceived a lesser threat than was actually there. A beaver isn't going to set any alarms off to the bear so it probably doesn't care. A large animal like a human, the bear believes it needs to defend itself. It has no concept of technology and doesn't realize it has no chance.

    This is what happens in nature - you defend yourself, you might just get killed.
    Why the hell do you think I say 'sadly'. The bear doesn't know it is opposing a more brutal foe. The bear defended itself and lost against a pack animal. Nothing new. Hence I also said they weren't equal.
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  7. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by Gehco View Post
    Why the hell do you think I say 'sadly'. The bear doesn't know it is opposing a more brutal foe. The bear defended itself and lost against a pack animal. Nothing new. Hence I also said they weren't equal.
    I guess I don't understand your point. All I've said is the human was the aggressor and the bear died defending itself.

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    No it's not, because you shouldn't be there in the first place.

  9. #149
    Quote Originally Posted by Shinra1 View Post
    Regular people don't go into bear territories and hunters/poachers are armed to the teeth.
    Hillbillies dont go where that guy was.
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  10. #150
    Animals who do not bend the knee and kiss the ring (or run ) when humans are around should be exterminated.

    We won the evolutionary race. They lost.
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  11. #151
    I think there is limit to all nonsense. Of course you shoot it. Killed it? Too bad.

  12. #152
    I think getting attacked by a predator bigger and stronger than you is really the only rational reason to have a gun with you in the wild.
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    Its easy to blame all those people wandering in the wilds when u live in the town surrounded by mostly humans and domestic animals. But people living in far away villages surrounded by the wilds cant be pacifist if they want to survive, they need to defend their children and their cows/sheeps/goats from the wolves.
    Last edited by Luckx; 2018-08-04 at 12:48 AM.

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