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  1. #141
    Quote Originally Posted by Ragnarocket View Post
    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/statistics/19

    Apparently we are just not great. I could handle such low numbers if the gameplay was a bit better but waiting to get stormstrike profs is just meh.
    As we gear up we will fall behind unless a buff of some kind comes in, elemental will become the better spec with gear progression. Both are far from great of course.

    http://simulationcraft.org/reports/T22_Raid.html

    Well in the past we could accept being in the middle of the pack dps wise when we had unique abilities, same with other hybrid classes.
    Last edited by Hightotemz; 2018-09-06 at 07:46 AM.

  2. #142
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    Shamans have good dps. Better nerf shadow and MM.

  3. #143
    Quote Originally Posted by Hightotemz View Post
    As we gear up we will fall behind unless a buff of some kind comes in, elemental will become the better spec with gear progression. Both are far from great of course.

    http://simulationcraft.org/reports/T22_Raid.html

    Well in the past we could accept being in the middle of the pack dps wise when we had unique abilities, same with other hybrid classes.
    While I agree we are going to just get worse in comparison to the rest of the specs, the sims aren't really good evidence for it. A lot of classes have a suboptimal setup in those sims. Enhance in particular is using the shitty raid trinkets when we will be relying on mythic+ for better ones.

  4. #144
    All the haters.

    BOW TO ME

    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/st.../19#dataset=95

    Shaman's baby, we taking over!!!

  5. #145
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    Or you could use the 75% level that warcraftlogs defaults to, and which removes much of the RNG from the comparison. You know, be more honest about it.

    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/st.../19#dataset=75

    Oh, look! High average, which isn't bad, but isn't the best. In fact, the lower you set the percentile, the worse Elemental looks, which shows that a great deal of the performance is RNG-reliant and/or extremely skill-dependant compared to other specs. I suspect RNG.

  6. #146
    It's good that shamans have elemental in a good state. Most enhancements have rerolled so there is no point sorting them out until next expansion.

    Resto is also looking good, so 2 viable specs now.

  7. #147
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormbreed View Post
    All the haters.

    BOW TO ME
    "things changed 4 months later so I'M RIGHT LOLOLOLOL"

    imagine being this desperate about your internet arguments
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    LFR saved raiding
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    LFR is not really easy. I would say it's a lot harder thant Mythic Dungeons
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  8. #148
    Quote Originally Posted by anon5123 View Post
    "things changed 4 months later so I'M RIGHT LOLOLOLOL"

    imagine being this desperate about your internet arguments

    Thanks for the bump, it lets me feed on your tears. Imagine my enjoyment at your anger I don't need to imagine, I'm so happy.

    But lets all get along and celebrate the Shaman domination.

    KINGS would kill for the honor of being a shaman.

    Let's stop with the trolling please. Infracted.
    Last edited by Ragnarocket; 2018-12-18 at 03:46 PM.

  9. #149
    my god you are retarded

    Insulting other forum members is not allowed. Infracted.
    Last edited by Ragnarocket; 2018-12-18 at 03:46 PM.

  10. #150
    Guys - chill out before we just close the thread. The insults and trolling need to stop.
    Last edited by Ragnarocket; 2018-12-18 at 03:45 PM.

  11. #151
    I’m going to be trying out elemental tonight on heroic. I did hear the new raid is more melee friendly so maybe I’ll stay enhance, depends on how tonight goes.

  12. #152
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormbreed View Post
    All the haters.

    BOW TO ME

    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/st.../19#dataset=95

    Shaman's baby, we taking over!!!
    No one likes you.

    Literally JUST said to stop the insults. Infracted.
    Last edited by Ragnarocket; 2018-12-18 at 03:45 PM.

  13. #153
    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaux View Post
    I’m going to be trying out elemental tonight on heroic. I did hear the new raid is more melee friendly so maybe I’ll stay enhance, depends on how tonight goes.
    If you want to play melee in new tier do not pick Enh. It is currently the worst melee spec in the game.

  14. #154
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalisandra View Post
    Or you could use the 75% level that warcraftlogs defaults to, and which removes much of the RNG from the comparison. You know, be more honest about it.

    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/st.../19#dataset=75

    Oh, look! High average, which isn't bad, but isn't the best. In fact, the lower you set the percentile, the worse Elemental looks, which shows that a great deal of the performance is RNG-reliant and/or extremely skill-dependant compared to other specs. I suspect RNG.
    This fundamentally means a lot of shit people play Elemental, or still getting used to changes/playing it for the first time.
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  15. #155
    Quote Originally Posted by HCLM View Post
    If you want to play melee in new tier do not pick Enh. It is currently the worst melee spec in the game.
    I only main shaman.

  16. #156
    Quote Originally Posted by MHMabrito View Post
    No one likes you.
    I still support you by watching your stream, I know you're into the RP aspect of BFA, but I don't think we should hate each other, we play in similar progressed guilds and both have a mutual love for Pitpit, the best boomkin named Jeff from Selkirk either of us know!

  17. #157
    Love coming back 8 months later and Ele is still topping charts!



    It's a great time to be a Shaman brothers.... Ele right behind Shadow on most fights and ahead of Boomkins
    Last edited by Stormbreed; 2019-07-12 at 03:27 PM.

  18. #158
    Got rid of Celestalon and Ion was finally able to make his main class strong.

  19. #159
    Shaman has been strong all of BFA

  20. #160
    Last time I played a shaman in WoW during Legion, enhancement was killed 862 gazillion times a millisecond in regular story game play and dailies because they couldn't take a single blow. The same "basic melee attack" that did maybe 5 to 10% of a balance druid or shadow priest or warlock's health, did maybe 30 to 40% of an enhancement shaman's health.

    Has that changed in BFA?

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