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  1. #101
    Quote Originally Posted by Ihsan997 View Post
    Isn’t your strong emotional reaction proof that it’s good storytelling, though? A writer’s goal is to elicit a visceral, heartfelt reaction from the reader/viewer. The tragedy of what happened, and the realism of the suffering, is supposed to make us angry, right?
    In Theory: Yes

    Now that the expansion is over, though, i have to say: No.

    BFA gave me absolutely no opportunity to actually fight for/against the cause of this anger. At no point we were allowed to go against Sylvanas or Nathanos. The closest we got was the Tyrande questline, which ended with her killing a Valkyr who nobody knew before this quest and nobody will miss after. Instead, we had to watch and then fight two more of our own heroes.

    And now that all is over it is already established that even Tyrande is only going after Sylvanas while all of the thousand murderers in the Horde ranks get away blame free and can even call themselves victims of this conflict somehow?

    No. Sorry but no. This is just not good enough. Yes, a good story should have the freedom to make you feel sad/angry from time to time. Totally right. But it should never get to a point where there is no possible outcome that even in the most remote senses reconciles this anger.

    If Blizzard was not willing to let us go after the Horde - ALL of them who took part in this genocide - then they should not have opened up the story like this. I do not play games to feel like a hopeless victim. This is not the narrative i am looking for in games. And i dare to say: This is true for most players.
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  2. #102
    She doesn't, because I'm done playing the game and RPing the character.

    Absolutely catastrophic, biased storytelling from writers with blindingly clear favorites. Fuck that. I'm tired of the night elves being shit on. BFA fixing none of the gameplay issues of WoW just sealed the deal.

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    This was my first thought:
    (The IT Crowd - Fire at Sea Parks)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk7KFPBXggk

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    Many of my characters weren't there when sylvanas torched teldrassil, since I only went there on my death Knight and warlock.

    My main characters were still helping their order halls when it occured.

  5. #105
    Justified by military necessity.

    My belf's a loyalist, until Sylvanas loses the Mak'gora.
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    Blood Elf Paladin views it as necessity, but saw over time how Sylvanas was taking the Horde down a dark path and turned against her, supporting Saurfang at the end.

    She never liked Sylvanas, though she's always appreciated what the Forsaken had done for the Sin'dorei.

  7. #107
    Quote Originally Posted by LilSaihah View Post
    Justified by military necessity.

    My belf's a loyalist, until Sylvanas loses the Mak'gora.
    For what reasons does your belf turn on Sylvanas? Is it only the cheating?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Blood Elf Paladin views it as necessity, but saw over time how Sylvanas was taking the Horde down a dark path and turned against her, supporting Saurfang at the end.
    Similar question: what exactly is that dark path? If the burning of Teldrassil was a necessity, then what else isn’t?

  8. #108
    Quote Originally Posted by Ihsan997 View Post
    For what reasons does your belf turn on Sylvanas? Is it only the cheating?
    She doesn't care about the cheating. She was aligned with Sylvanas out of pragmatism, and she's just switching to the winning team by dumping her.
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    My characters weren't there for it, because they were leading their order halls in the aftermath of the legion. My character also outranked sylvanas at this stage of the game so she had no authority to even call them up, leader of a class order and saviour of azeroth who rode on deathwings back, killed the legions second in commands, killed the lich king (something she herself failed to do), lead a counter invasion on an alternative timeline, and stood before the titans themselves deeming me worthy before killing a new born titan, yeah, my rank f**king outranked warchief by several thousand yards at this stage of the game.

  10. #110
    My main is a Kaldorei druid.

    She is absolutely disgusted by both Alliance and Horde.

    The weakness of the Alliance in the moments that counted most made her despair in the fires as she tried her best to save as many children in the fires of Darnassus. She remembers when Varian Wrynn spared Garrosh from being executed on the spot. Back then she even admired the human King to some extent. This has left her feeling dreadful for the future of the Alliance and most importantly her own people.

    Having watched the new "Human King", a weak little boy, fail so miserably alongside a disgruntled, sentimental parent is enough for her to abandon the thought of being part of the Alliance and giving the Horde the benefit of the doubt is out of the question.

    She's retreated to Val'sharah to aid in the possible restoration of Shaladrassil after the defeat of Xavius in the Emerald Nightmare and wishes to have no part in the childish meddlings of the Alliance and Horde no longer.

    The invocation of the Night Warrior hasn't gone unnoticed as far as she is concerned, but she believes that her powers are better spent trying to mend what lands of the Kaldorei still exist rather than hunting for vengeance and possibly watching more of her sisters die in vain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lillyth View Post
    My main is a Kaldorei druid.

    She is absolutely disgusted by both Alliance and Horde.

    The weakness of the Alliance in the moments that counted most made her despair in the fires as she tried her best to save as many children in the fires of Darnassus. She remembers when Varian Wrynn spared Garrosh from being executed on the spot. Back then she even admired the human King to some extent. This has left her feeling dreadful for the future of the Alliance and most importantly her own people.

    Having watched the new "Human King", a weak little boy, fail so miserably alongside a disgruntled, sentimental parent is enough for her to abandon the thought of being part of the Alliance and giving the Horde the benefit of the doubt is out of the question.

    She's retreated to Val'sharah to aid in the possible restoration of Shaladrassil after the defeat of Xavius in the Emerald Nightmare and wishes to have no part in the childish meddlings of the Alliance and Horde no longer.

    The invocation of the Night Warrior hasn't gone unnoticed as far as she is concerned, but she believes that her powers are better spent trying to mend what lands of the Kaldorei still exist rather than hunting for vengeance and possibly watching more of her sisters die in vain.
    That was excellent. Sad, but excellent.

  12. #112
    my night elf druid is considered KIA when he was trying to save as many lives as possible when the tree was burning. probably gonna see him in shadowlands.

    my night elf DK would love to join tyrande and avenge teldrassil and his lost twin brother even if it means to leave the alliance.
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  13. #113
    Sylvanas is a bitch. That's it. This was exactly what she was like before Teldrassil and she's exactly the kind of character that would do something like that.

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    My main, whom I've named Syletta Whispermoon, is a Kal'dorei Warrior.

    She felt like she failed everyone who burned. It was her duty to stand on the front lines, and prevent the Horde from pushing further into Night elf lands.
    When Teldrassil burned, she felt hopeless and nearly lost her life on those shores as she retreated from the horde.

  15. #115
    Quote Originally Posted by Lillyth View Post
    My main is a Kaldorei druid.

    She is absolutely disgusted by both Alliance and Horde.

    The weakness of the Alliance in the moments that counted most made her despair in the fires as she tried her best to save as many children in the fires of Darnassus. She remembers when Varian Wrynn spared Garrosh from being executed on the spot. Back then she even admired the human King to some extent. This has left her feeling dreadful for the future of the Alliance and most importantly her own people.

    Having watched the new "Human King", a weak little boy, fail so miserably alongside a disgruntled, sentimental parent is enough for her to abandon the thought of being part of the Alliance and giving the Horde the benefit of the doubt is out of the question.

    She's retreated to Val'sharah to aid in the possible restoration of Shaladrassil after the defeat of Xavius in the Emerald Nightmare and wishes to have no part in the childish meddlings of the Alliance and Horde no longer.

    The invocation of the Night Warrior hasn't gone unnoticed as far as she is concerned, but she believes that her powers are better spent trying to mend what lands of the Kaldorei still exist rather than hunting for vengeance and possibly watching more of her sisters die in vain.
    I second Mirishka’s comment; that was poignant and powerful. It’s a very mature way to have a character react to loss on a massive scale.

    Does your character pine for the old days when the night elves were members of neither faction, like back in W3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zephi5315 View Post
    My main, whom I've named Syletta Whispermoon, is a Kal'dorei Warrior.

    She felt like she failed everyone who burned. It was her duty to stand on the front lines, and prevent the Horde from pushing further into Night elf lands.
    When Teldrassil burned, she felt hopeless and nearly lost her life on those shores as she retreated from the horde.

    A lot of tragic RP has come out of this event, but it’s also allowed a lot of people to develop their characters in light of what’s a massive, canon writing prompt. Given your characters (incorrect) laying of some blame on herself, where is she now? Especially post-night warrior/banshee fleeing?

  16. #116
    Quote Originally Posted by Ihsan997 View Post
    I second Mirishka’s comment; that was poignant and powerful. It’s a very mature way to have a character react to loss on a massive scale.

    Does your character pine for the old days when the night elves were members of neither faction, like back in W3?

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    She doesn't, not really. She enjoyed life the most during the events of Legion because she got to re-discover Suramar and watch the biggest threats to Azeroth fall. She's been doubting the decisions made by Tyrande and the "Human King" for a long time. These doubts have always been quelled by the thought that Elune is guiding Tyrande. However with the most recent events, it is not that she abandoned her belief that Tyrande is guided by Elune, it is more that she believes her powers are better spent elsewhere.

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    I dont play on an RP server, but I'm invested in the story enough to always consider these things. My dwarf warrior never felt kinship with the forest-loving elves, but he is extremely well-travelled and understands their pain. In perhaps typical dwarven style, he considers the loss of life painful and regrettable, but the loss of historical artifacts the nightelves kept in their tree even worse.
    If World of Warcraft has taught me anything, it's that teaching a crowd something is far harder than teaching individuals.

  18. #118
    All of my characters were happily manning catapults. For the Horde!

    Those who say the burning of Teldrassil lacked honor... lack ambition.

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    Made a run to the store to get more graham crackers, marshmallows, and Hershey chocolate bars.

  20. #120
    My character is actually really horrified by Teldrassil. He sees parallels between the scourge razing Quel'thalas and the Lich Queen razing the tree.

    Having lived through the horror he's fairly traumatized and I'd say he has some PTSD going on and Teldrassil is literally triggering.

    He's not a happy camper.

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