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    Late May isn't happening in my eyes. I really think it's mid-late/June and July for the raid. That was before the 4 extra weeks of AK and lack of PTR further cemented it. As for the PTR itself, it's still due regardless, but it might be that they're not wanting to push it without the Azerite revamp in a presentable state. I think that's the holdup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by infinitemeridian View Post
    @Marlamin, any movement on the PTRs this week? What are the odds we get 8.2 PTR dropping?
    Nothing since that last activity I mentioned a few days ago so no idea, really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiaron View Post
    Me starts thinking they ran into problems with the latest build. I cannot find the source but I'm quite sure (not 100%) they said in an interview that 8.2 ptr would hit shortly (like in days) after 8.1.5 goes live...we are now 2 weeks in and still no ptr. Sounds to me like something unexpected happened.
    I believe there was an attempt at putting the PTR up twice now. One in the lead up to the Q&A and one last Tuesday. Can't be entirely sure seeing the amount of information we have is limited to (non-PTR, likely staging) servers going up and down and whatever the rumor Mill has at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    I believe there was an attempt at putting the PTR up twice now. One in the lead up to the Q&A and one last Tuesday. Can't be entirely sure seeing the amount of information we have is limited to (non-PTR, likely staging) servers going up and down and whatever the rumor Mill has at the time.
    I mean it could be that they push the internal build and it is too unstable yet for us to see it

  5. #3505
    PTR today would be nice. Or crucible preQ on live.
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    I remember Preach talked about something he was NDA'd till the 11th April with Blizzard. Taliesen and Evitel also mentioned something Blizzard-ish soon they couldn't talk about.

    So perhaps so show-and-tell-influencer-type-thing on Thursday next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tipton View Post
    I remember Preach talked about something he was NDA'd till the 11th April with Blizzard. Taliesen and Evitel also mentioned something Blizzard-ish soon they couldn't talk about.

    So perhaps so show-and-tell-influencer-type-thing on Thursday next week.
    Preach and T&E aren't WoW news people though. They don't have websites where people can go to see all the new stuff... I'd guess rather it has to do with some kind of event... either Blizzard is going to start hosting a world first raiding stream starting with Crucible, or maybe there is going to be a streamer dungeon event to show off Mechagon similar to what they did with Maw of Souls in Legion.

  8. #3508
    I feel a lot of people will be disappointed if we don't get 8.2 ptr this week. It's been a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asphyx22 View Post
    I feel a lot of people will be disappointed if we don't get 8.2 ptr this week. It's been a while.
    I am always prepared for disappointment when it comes to Blizz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aehl View Post
    More like 4...which means PTR will run to August..yup, called it

    Flight in SEPTEMBER and Nazjatar will be no fly.
    They said 2 weeks ago thursday that there will be another QA in a few weeks, which is assumed to be the 8.2 PTR qa, and big info dump.

    But even IF it was 4 more weeks, the PTR would still end in July, not August.

    And also didn't they confirm nazjatar will be flying in a QA somewhere?

    God you people are so obnoxious with your doom saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asphyx22 View Post
    I feel a lot of people will be disappointed if we don't get 8.2 ptr this week. It's been a while.
    I'm prepared to get it with a QA the week of Crucible release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drekmar View Post
    PTR today would be nice. Or crucible preQ on live.
    I was expecting crucible pre-quest today...But so far no signs of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    I believe there was an attempt at putting the PTR up twice now. One in the lead up to the Q&A and one last Tuesday. Can't be entirely sure seeing the amount of information we have is limited to (non-PTR, likely staging) servers going up and down and whatever the rumor Mill has at the time.
    Interesting, quite possible they've been running into issues.

    I hope we see a build this week, but im keeping my expectations set to a few weeks from now.

    It feels like to me 8.2 is taking longer than they thought, since its so major, and they want to do it right, hence the azerite knowledge increase for a few more weeks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I am always prepared for disappointment when it comes to Blizz
    I legit laughed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vynestra View Post
    I'm prepared to get it with a QA the week of Crucible release.
    I suspect they might wait until Crucible releases too. I just feel they are REALLY trying to drag things out, and people are getting anxious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asphyx22 View Post
    I legit laughed.

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    I suspect they might wait until Crucible releases too. I just feel they are REALLY trying to drag things out, and people are getting anxious.
    I honestly think its more that they know 8.2 is extremely important and want to do it right. So they're taking extra time.
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  13. #3513
    Yeah, I'd rather they take a couple of weeks to really nail things down.

  14. #3514
    If they want to do it right they should have it out on the ptr sooner and for a longer period.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pepe The Frog View Post
    If they want to do it right they should have it out on the ptr sooner and for a longer period.
    Not if the main system Cha tea aren't done yet. No point testing something that they know is not even close to ready.

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    8.2 could possibly be a bigger patch than 7.2 which would explain the longer time to hit PTR. Especially if they're adding new systems or overhauling existing ones like Warfronts, Azerite, and whatever new WQs and bodyguard system in Nazjatar they're doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlubberPuddy View Post
    8.2 could possibly be a bigger patch than 7.2 which would explain the longer time to hit PTR. Especially if they're adding new systems or overhauling existing ones like Warfronts, Azerite, and whatever new WQs and bodyguard system in Nazjatar they're doing.
    The only caveat is that 8.1 was significantly smaller than 7.1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chickat View Post
    Not if the main system Cha tea aren't done yet. No point testing something that they know is not even close to ready.
    They usually lock stuff in the early builds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlubberPuddy View Post
    8.2 could possibly be a bigger patch than 7.2 which would explain the longer time to hit PTR. Especially if they're adding new systems or overhauling existing ones like Warfronts, Azerite, and whatever new WQs and bodyguard system in Nazjatar they're doing.
    I think it's highly likely that 8.2 is larger than 7.2. Broken shore was just modified, and other than that very small island that DKs went too, there was no brand new zone. 8.2 will have both Nazjatar and Mechagon as brand new zones, even if one will be quite small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlubberPuddy View Post
    8.2 could possibly be a bigger patch than 7.2 which would explain the longer time to hit PTR. Especially if they're adding new systems or overhauling existing ones like Warfronts, Azerite, and whatever new WQs and bodyguard system in Nazjatar they're doing.
    They also intended for their to be at least a 1 month gap longer due to wanting 8.1 to hit later than 7.1. Id say they originially intended for 8.2 to release in Late April/early May, So they are probably about 6 weeks behind schedule. I think this is all going to sort itself out. Hopefully this means 2 months less at the end of the expansion, and the next xpac comes out at a similar time to BFA.

    In a perfect world this is what I think the patch schedule should look like until 9.0.

    8.2 ptr- April 4th
    8.2 live- June 25th. Longer ptr time to gopefully get the AP revamp right.
    8.2.5 ptr- July 11th
    Azshara raid live- July 16th
    8.2.5 live- September 10th
    8.3 ptr- September 24th
    8.3 live- December 10th
    8.3 raid- January 21st
    8.3.5 ptr February 6th
    9.0 Alpha- February 27th
    8.3.5 live- March 31st
    9.0 beta- April 26th
    9.0 prepatch ptr- June 8th
    Prepatch release- September 1st
    9.0 release- September 29th

    Gives them 27 weeks between Alpha and the prepatch going live. So realistically about 20 weeks until thye have to stop making major changes. 5 months of hard testing would do 9.0 well imo. Almost 7 months of testing should make the next xpac less buggy/more polished.

    Also only around 9 months of the final tier. Only problem is its 10.5 months of the final zone which sucks, but still better than Argus-bfa live which was 12 months.

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    I think I'd rather them push back 8.3 to Jan and a 9.0 release date to October 2020 imo. 8.2 looks good and it would give them more time to develop 8.3.

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