1. #20081
    I don’t expect a 8.3.5 patch. I think next one is 9.0.

    But that placement of allied race banners in the embassies is suspicious indeed... it almost screams “one more banner will be put here”.

    If I’m wrong and we get 8.3.5, then I hope it’s heritage armor + final ARs + improvements to existing ARs.
    Whatever...

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    I can only hope 8.3.5 comes with Heritage armor for Draenei, Troll and Pandaren players
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    Did the mods just delete a bunch of posts on this thread? Says we're on page 1026, but also shows navigation for up to 1034, plus clicking any higher page takes you to 1026, that sounds like lag after a mass deletion.
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    Big question... Where is the trailer at? its less than a week and we got no trailer?
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  5. #20085
    The trailer for 8.1 came out on release date and 8.2 might have been an exception. Even the 7.3 trailer came out on release day, so wait with the drama (owait I am at MMO-Champ).

  6. #20086
    Is that thread still alive ?

    Edit: It apparently had by confirmed by Ion Hazzicostas himself in a recent interview that there would be NO 8.3.5, also, Corrupted/Titanforging and Reforging not coming back in Shadowlands

    Here is the link (sorry for the inconvenience it's a french website, interview went live today):

    https://www.millenium.org/guide/355668.html
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  7. #20087
    Quote Originally Posted by Gangreflamme View Post
    It apparently had by confirmed by Ion Hazzicostas himself in a recent interview that there would be NO 8.3.5
    I don't speak French, but Chrome translates it as:
    Just to rule out this point, we don't have a plan for an 8.3.5. We may have some updates or slight adjustments for stability between Shadowlands and now but Visions of N'zoth is really the chapter that concludes Battle for Azeroth. We look forward to focusing our attention on Shadowlands.
    "there is no plan" sounds less dramatic than "confirmed nothing happening". Especially when a Patch numbered 8.3.5 could be anything, e.g. the mentioned bug/balance fixes.

    "The chapter that concludes Battle for Azeroth" sounds like he's talking about story, as in, no story additions like previous continuations of the War Campaign and side stories in .5 patches.
    That doesn't mean there can't be minor patches to somehow provide more non-story content, there could even be stories not directly connected to BfA.

    And honestly, no patch except bugfixes from next Tuesday/Wednesday until Q3 or even Q4? That makes little sense.
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  8. #20088
    Indeed, but it's still unclear as to what he means by "no plan for a 8.3.5", maybe he means no new big feature added to the game until prepatch ?
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  9. #20089
    I would say that "no plan for 8.3.5" means "no plan for 8.3.5" ;P Although I would wait for some French people to translate and confirm.

    Imo it's both bad and good news. Bad news, of course, no new content until pre-patch, no new allied races and probably no bigger changes like account-wide essences (although I expect even more nerfs midway through 8.3).

    Good news, probably Alpha is sooner than many expect. I think Ion hates when there is void on Beta/PTR servers and people have nothing to look forward.

  10. #20090
    True, and as a french speaker myself, I can literally translate Ion's words in French (which is the answer to the question):
    "Juste pour écarter ce point, nous n'avons pas de plan pour une 8.3.5. Nous avons peut être quelques mises à jours ou ajustements légers pour la stabilité entre Shadowlands et maintenant mais Visions of N'zoth est vraiment le chapitre qui conclue Battle for Azeroth. Nous avons hâte de concentrer notre attention sur Shadowlands."

    to this:
    "Just to make that point (what was asked in the question) clear, we have no plans for a 8.3.5. We may have a few updates or minor fixes in regards to the stability between Shadowlands and right now but Visions of N'zoth is really the chapter that concludes Battle for Azeroth. We are excited to set our focus on Shadowlands."

    That sounds like a guy who wants to ship Alpha and start testing ASAP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gangreflamme View Post
    True, and as a french speaker myself, I can literally translate Ion's words in French (which is the answer to the question):
    "Juste pour écarter ce point, nous n'avons pas de plan pour une 8.3.5. Nous avons peut être quelques mises à jours ou ajustements légers pour la stabilité entre Shadowlands et maintenant mais Visions of N'zoth est vraiment le chapitre qui conclue Battle for Azeroth. Nous avons hâte de concentrer notre attention sur Shadowlands."

    to this:
    "Just to make that point (what was asked in the question) clear, we have no plans for a 8.3.5. We may have a few updates or minor fixes in regards to the stability between Shadowlands and right now but Visions of N'zoth is really the chapter that concludes Battle for Azeroth. We are excited to set our focus on Shadowlands."

    That sounds like a guy who wants to ship Alpha and start testing ASAP.
    Yep, sounds like that. I don't think people like Ion even go take a shit without plan, so I would exclude surprise 8.3.5.

    Also I'm more and more convinced that SL is planned for October, especially if Alpha will drop next month.

  12. #20092
    Quote Originally Posted by Gangreflamme View Post
    True, and as a french speaker myself, I can literally translate Ion's words in French (which is the answer to the question):
    "Juste pour écarter ce point, nous n'avons pas de plan pour une 8.3.5. Nous avons peut être quelques mises à jours ou ajustements légers pour la stabilité entre Shadowlands et maintenant mais Visions of N'zoth est vraiment le chapitre qui conclue Battle for Azeroth. Nous avons hâte de concentrer notre attention sur Shadowlands."

    to this:
    "Just to make that point (what was asked in the question) clear, we have no plans for a 8.3.5. We may have a few updates or minor fixes in regards to the stability between Shadowlands and right now but Visions of N'zoth is really the chapter that concludes Battle for Azeroth. We are excited to set our focus on Shadowlands."

    That sounds like a guy who wants to ship Alpha and start testing ASAP.
    Man, that kills some buzz for me.

    I was hoping they'd find a way to cram in one last set of allied races and some more small stuff in 8.3.5 but I guess this is it.

    Sigh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    Man, that kills some buzz for me.

    I was hoping they'd find a way to cram in one last set of allied races and some more small stuff in 8.3.5 but I guess this is it.

    Sigh.
    Agreed, they end the Allied Races with a very lackluster Alliance race grouped with a very sought after Horde addition. At least the Allied Race DK's are a nice win. I've wanted a Void Elf pally but I'll settle for a DK (Warrior just seems pretty lackluster to me).

    But it's nice to know that Vizion's will be it, and since it comes out tomorrow we know we'll have about 5-6 months of this patch so I'd say SL release will probably be anywhere between August-October.

    If we get the starting of SL beta soon then I can see August, otherwise I feel September or October release more likely.

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    Debating buying Shadowlands and playing retail again just for a Nightborne DK...

    But at the same time, that would mean playing retail and dealing with all that garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    Man, that kills some buzz for me.

    I was hoping they'd find a way to cram in one last set of allied races and some more small stuff in 8.3.5 but I guess this is it.

    Sigh.
    Figured they wouldn't. If they were going to do a surprise batch they'd have covered it at Blizzcon as part of the hype for Shadowlands.

    It sure is weird having a very noticable empty space for one more set, though.... *looks at the vampire elves and blue skinned humans*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    Debating buying Shadowlands and playing retail again just for a Nightborne DK...

    But at the same time, that would mean playing retail and dealing with all that garbage.

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    Figured they wouldn't. If they were going to do a surprise batch they'd have covered it at Blizzcon as part of the hype for Shadowlands.

    It sure is weird having a very noticable empty space for one more set, though.... *looks at the vampire elves and blue skinned humans*
    Well, I imagine if they were a surprise that had to do with BfA's plot, being BfA-relevant races, they'd want to keep that a secret even at Blizzcon as it would be a nice surprise.

    And yeah, the one set does irk me. Rajani Mogu and Waveblade Ankoan as the last two BfA races would've been nice. Part of me feels like the list as is should end with a BfA race, and then there should be a new one for any potential Shadowlands or (if Shadowlands indeed has 0 allied races) expansion beyond races. But that's just me. You could argue that the initial four races were Legion only and therefore already break that notion.

  16. #20096
    The lack of plans for future BFA content does not line up with the glaringly obvious spots for two more ARs, unless they really are just reserved spots for faction exclusive Kyrians and Venthyr. Which already is being chalked up as an Alliance loss.

    Or spots reserved for 10.0 races when we return to Azeroth?

  17. #20097
    Quote Originally Posted by Nagawithlegs View Post
    The lack of plans for future BFA content does not line up with the glaringly obvious spots for two more ARs, unless they really are just reserved spots for faction exclusive Kyrians and Venthyr. Which already is being chalked up as an Alliance loss.

    Or spots reserved for 10.0 races when we return to Azeroth?
    Honestly, if there are any covenant races in Shadowlands that turn into allied races and they pick one faction or the other, that totally contradicts both the idea of covenants and peace between the factions.

  18. #20098
    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    Honestly, if there are any covenant races in Shadowlands that turn into allied races and they pick one faction or the other, that totally contradicts both the idea of covenants and peace between the factions.
    The Mechagnomes joining Alliance post-peace treaty already shows that Blizzard doesn't care, they will do anything to make sure there's never a neutral race again.

  19. #20099
    No 8.3.5 was what I expected, thought I hoped to be wrong.

    So, no more allied races, and no new heritage armor until Shadowlands. And BfA story ends with a whimper, a pity.
    Whatever...

  20. #20100
    The faster BFA ends the better. Though I am happy that this patch is taking place in Pandaria and Uldum. And the new raid looks cool.

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