1. #7061
    It’s not just the dance, they have a new animation for pretty much each emote.

  2. #7062
    Quote Originally Posted by Eurhetemec View Post
    Yeah that's what I mean - re: Lightforged, becoming a Night Warrior is a similarly bonkers/extreme process to becoming a Lightforged Draenei, but one is a race and one is a customization we unlock.
    One is something that happened to all Night Elves present when Tyrande did the ritual(and took all of the risk), while the other is something everybody needs to do personally. And that's just for the visual differences.

    The Lightforged were already from a different culture than their Exodar cousins before they went through that process.
    Mechagnomes are barely different beyond some prosthetics that wouldn't even be out of place on a regular gnome.

  3. #7063
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    One is something that happened to all Night Elves present when Tyrande did the ritual(and took all of the risk), while the other is something everybody needs to do personally. And that's just for the visual differences.

    The Lightforged were already from a different culture than their Exodar cousins before they went through that process.
    Mechagnomes are barely different beyond some prosthetics that wouldn't even be out of place on a regular gnome.
    The cultural differences are pretty small. Lightforged Draenei could’ve easily been customization for regular Draenei. If you’re saying LF Draenei have a different culture than regular Draenei so therefore it’s fine to have them as an allied race then you can say the same thing for mechagnomes.

    Blood elves got golden eyes, nelves got black eyes and I think face tats that go along the eye. Lightforged Draenei have golden hooves, eyes, tats and a few different hair styles. It’s a very disappointing race that could’ve easily been added as a customization option. Regular Draenei can become Lightforged as well through a process so the cultural difference isn’t really massive at all.

    I don’t really want mechagnomes unless they add robo-chest customization but if you think LF Draenei are fine as a race cosmetically than mechagnomes are too. Hell, mechagnomes have more customization than LF Draenei do. LF Draenei are just Draenei fighting a war against the Void/legion, regular Draenei follow a very similar style. Mechagnomes are just gnomes that fight against king mechagon and heavily support body modification. The cultural differences for both are very minimal, not enough to carry a race on its own. I know people might not like the broken as a race but they would’ve been both visually different and culturally different.
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  4. #7064
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    And we've had NPC races with dances before. Even Drustvar witches have a dance for some reason.
    arrakoa and ogres are the only ones i can really think of that ever had a unique dance.

    the witches use the arrakoa model, so it's probably the same dance.

    but this is modern blizzard we're talking about here, they don't take the time to do that kind of thing these days for an npc race. this is a unique dance, with more than just two animations(likely an answer to the criticism that kul tirans got), there's no way this isn't going to be playable.

  5. #7065
    Quote Originally Posted by allegrian View Post
    It’s not just the dance, they have a new animation for pretty much each emote.
    Yes yes they will be new allied race yes. In next expansion as Blizzard alredy told us that they are happy with number of allied races for yhis expansion. So stop hoping thay they will come out in 8.2.5 or 8.3 becouse they wont.

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    Geebus, Azshara Dungeon Journal entry is an entire book. And I thought Jaina had a lot of abilities. :v

    "Stage Four: This Palace Is a Prison:
    Unable to leave, Azshara turns her full force upon the raid. Players must contend with Azshara while attempting to keep the Titan Console under control."

    Yes, N'zoth is chained down there, but does it mean, that maybe Azshara herself is unable to leave the Palace for some reason?
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  7. #7067
    Yikes, you guys REALLY don't want mechagnomes, huh. At this point, I think it is pretty naive to think they won't be an allied race, and I for one welcome our robot gnome overlords.

    Can't wait to see what their racials will be.
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  8. #7068
    Quote Originally Posted by Taeldorian View Post
    The cultural differences are pretty small.
    No, they're not. One group spend the last 25 millenia waging war. The other spent that time running away from the force the first was warring against.

    Mechagnomes... do pretty much the exact same thing as regular gnomes. Their cultural differences aren't small, they're non-existent.

  9. #7069
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    Mechagnomes... do pretty much the exact same thing as regular gnomes. Their cultural differences aren't small, they're non-existent.
    Mechagnomes have a monarchy, regular gnomes have a democracy.
    Mechagnomes have a position on the curse of flesh which has influenced their culture to a great extent, making mechanical limbs pretty much mandatory.
    Mechagon is implied to be home to technology far greater than current Gnome and Goblin tech.
    Mechagnomes also have the whole recycling and repurposing thing going on.
    They also don't have the same dislike for Goblins their kin have.

    Face it. They are as distinct from their parent race as any other allied race, in fact, they seem to be more distinct than some, like the Mag'har Orcs which are just orcs, but brown and smug.
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  10. #7070
    Quote Originally Posted by Gurmech View Post
    Face it. They are as distinct from their parent race as any other allied race, in fact, they seem to be more distinct than some, like the Mag'har Orcs which are just orcs, but brown and smug.
    Brown, smug AND able to operate a death-train! What more can you get?

  11. #7071
    Quote Originally Posted by Gurmech View Post
    Mechagnomes have a monarchy, regular gnomes have a democracy.
    Mechagnomes have a position on the curse of flesh which has influenced their culture to a great extent, making mechanical limbs pretty much mandatory.
    Mechagon is implied to be home to technology far greater than current Gnome and Goblin tech.
    Mechagnomes also have the whole recycling and repurposing thing going on.
    They also don't have the same dislike for Goblins their kin have.

    Face it. They are as distinct from their parent race as any other allied race, in fact, they seem to be more distinct than some, like the Mag'har Orcs which are just orcs, but brown and smug.
    @huth

    My list is basically the same as Gurmechs so I’ll quote his response. Somehow all of this is less distinct than 1 race waging war against the legion and 1 running from the legion. Let’s be realistic, if Lightforged Draenei are somehow super culturally different than regular Draenei than mechagnomes are super culturally different than regular gnomes. LF Draenei don’t have more lore than mechagnomes do.

    I don’t want mechagnomes either but it feels like you’re extremely biased to the point of ignoring specific things about mechagnomes. There’s no actual way someone can approve of LF draenei lorewise/culturewise but not mechagnomes. Neither of them are culturally rich compared to their counterparts. In regards to visual differences, both of them could technically be customization but we have nothing in the game that’d be similar to mechagnome customization while LF Draenei have 1/4th of their visual differences already added as customization for other classes (dark eyes/golden eyes for nelves/belves).

  12. #7072
    Mechagnomes bad because "Alliance didn't want it".
    Mag'har good because "Horde wanted it".

    End of story. Stop pretending as though there is any other reason for it.

    Ironically, nobody asked for the Iron Horde to be playable, but because you can play pretend that your marking-less, boring Warsong/Frostwolf orc is from Outlands nobody cares.

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    Something that particularly infuriates me is that you KNOW that people will say "Horde asked for Vulpera and they got them" when Vulpera were designed to be playable as early as late-Alpha. They were always going to be playable the moment they got those new models. Nobody cared about them when they looked Cata Goblins without tails.

    Doesn't matter though. People will say anything to further their shitty little narratives.
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  13. #7073
    Quote Originally Posted by EbaumsTipster View Post
    Mechagnomes bad because "Alliance didn't want it".
    Mag'har good because "Horde wanted it".

    End of story. Stop pretending as though there is any other reason for it.

    Ironically, nobody asked for the Iron Horde to be playable, but because you can play pretend that your marking-less, boring Warsong/Frostwolf orc is from Outlands nobody cares.

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    Something that particularly infuriates me is that you KNOW that people will say "Horde asked for Vulpera and they got them" when Vulpera were designed to be playable as early as late-Alpha. They were always going to be playable the moment they got those new models. Nobody cared about them when they looked Cata Goblins without tails.

    Doesn't matter though. People will say anything to further their shitty little narratives.
    Pretty good summation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EbaumsTipster View Post
    Mechagnomes bad because "Alliance didn't want it".
    Mag'har good because "Horde wanted it".

    End of story. Stop pretending as though there is any other reason for it.

    Ironically, nobody asked for the Iron Horde to be playable, but because you can play pretend that your marking-less, boring Warsong/Frostwolf orc is from Outlands nobody cares.

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    Something that particularly infuriates me is that you KNOW that people will say "Horde asked for Vulpera and they got them" when Vulpera were designed to be playable as early as late-Alpha. They were always going to be playable the moment they got those new models. Nobody cared about them when they looked Cata Goblins without tails.

    Doesn't matter though. People will say anything to further their shitty little narratives.
    People will be butthurt because their favorite race wasn't picked, just look at the Sethrak. Now honestly I can understand the hate from the mechagnomes being more louder than the Vulpera hate train because of the loli/furry thing, the juker gnomes are just that, gnomes with a weird fallout vibe, the alliance playerbase are tired of their human like AR and most want some monster or not so human, if anything some murloc atlantean civilization will fit better with the gnomes and exploring a new culture and technology.
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  15. #7075
    Quote Originally Posted by Gurmech View Post
    Mechagnomes have a monarchy, regular gnomes have a democracy.
    Mechagnomes have a position on the curse of flesh which has influenced their culture to a great extent, making mechanical limbs pretty much mandatory.
    Mechagon is implied to be home to technology far greater than current Gnome and Goblin tech.
    Mechagnomes also have the whole recycling and repurposing thing going on.
    They also don't have the same dislike for Goblins their kin have.

    Face it. They are as distinct from their parent race as any other allied race, in fact, they seem to be more distinct than some, like the Mag'har Orcs which are just orcs, but brown and smug.
    Supposedly. In practice, they still have a monarchy, or have you seen them ever do any elections or show any other democratic behaviour?
    The rebels rather disagree with King Mechagons position.
    And? They got a headstart. That's all. Their mentality wasn't changed.
    So do regular gnomes.
    Because they haven't had any significant encounters with them for the rivalry to develop and need all the help they can get right now.

    They aren't distinct at all. They are rather like the Mag'har.

  16. #7076
    So whats happens with Ashvane and Sylvanas, and how does she get to Azshara.. sorry if this has been discussed

  17. #7077
    Quote Originally Posted by Gurmech View Post
    Yikes, you guys REALLY don't want mechagnomes, huh. At this point, I think it is pretty naive to think they won't be an allied race, and I for one welcome our robot gnome overlords.

    Can't wait to see what their racials will be.
    i just kinda feel like it's a waste of an allied race, when it could have been something cooler.

    that said, it will achieve the chaos i wish to see unleashed on all the normies: mechagnome r34 with their limbs unscrewed so that they're fucknuggets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    i just kinda feel like it's a waste of an allied race, when it could have been something cooler.

    that said, it will achieve the chaos i wish to see unleashed on all the normies: mechagnome r34 with their limbs unscrewed so that they're fucknuggets.
    To be fair, i think the Mechagnomes could be way cooler, they just need a little extra effort from Blizzard

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    I'm waiting on my Vulpera Race to be playable...

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    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    i just kinda feel like it's a waste of an allied race, when it could have been something cooler.

    that said, it will achieve the chaos i wish to see unleashed on all the normies: mechagnome r34 with their limbs unscrewed so that they're fucknuggets.
    Seriously...what the f......................................................................................... ................uk...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    I do not mind Vulpera at all even though I doubt I'll play one. But Mechagnomes have the exact same problem with the Lightforged. They take a race's theme and crank it to 11, invalidating the base race in the process.
    I will be race changing one of my races to become a Vulpera, and it will be my Hunter...
    Really want to go around as a little fox humanoid taming large beasts...
    For the Horde!

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    Quote Originally Posted by derpkitteh View Post
    that said, it will achieve the chaos i wish to see unleashed on all the normies: mechagnome r34 with their limbs unscrewed so that they're fucknuggets.
    ayy hol up
    ill probably be infracted for this post

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