Azortharion's Marksmanship Hunter DPS Guide - Battle for Azeroth

[Skylarking]

Has anything changed for marks in new patch?

[Brenak]

Anyone else simming Pocket sized computation device and getting bad results? I have a 410 gift and a 400 razor claw and a 415 computation device cant beat either of them according to raid bot. Ive tried all the red and yellow punch card combinations even with the azerite trait from the dungeon and its just not enough. Is the simming not up to date? Is this trinket just not that good? anyone else seeing this?

[Feanoro]

Before they nerfed the shit out of it, it was decent. Now it's for baby alts.

[Azortharion]

Before they nerfed the shit out of it, it was decent. Now it's for baby alts.

This is incredibly wrong. It's hard to even call it a nerf, since in the same motion they made it able to crit (so that's a 20-40% damage buff, depending on your Crit) and made its channel Hasted.

Such a weirdly ignorant statement, just fire up the WCL Rankings for any Mythic boss and you'll see the vast majority of all Hunters using this trinket still.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/ra...9&class=Hunter

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/st...tinfo=Trinkets

It used by almost 70% of all 3/8M Hunters.

[Feanoro]

This is incredibly wrong. It's hard to even call it a nerf, since in the same motion they made it able to crit (so that's a 20-40% damage buff, depending on your Crit) and made its channel Hasted.

Such a weirdly ignorant statement, just fire up the WCL Rankings for any Mythic boss and you'll see the vast majority of all Hunters using this trinket still.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/ra...9&class=Hunter

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/st...tinfo=Trinkets

It used by almost 70% of all 3/8M Hunters.

I do know they nerfed the stats cards quite a bit, so let me see if you've updated on it... Found it. OK, my bad. Now to figure out if it beats my 410 Galecaller's.

Edit: RaidBots compare says only by 40 dps.

Further note though, it isn't listed in Bloodmallet for either BM or MM (as of 7/18 11:07PM Eastern, in case they come out with new sims after I post this ).

[SongWarden]

After simming for single target, it seems that Focused Fire & Surging Shots seem to be better than having In The Rhythm paired with Unerring vision? In fact, the highest sim doesn't have a single Unerring Vision included and only two In The Rhythms. The combo FF/SS is that powerful?

Is this still true today? I've just been following the icy-veins guide and all the sims show Unerring vision/in the rhythm ahead in every scenario. Sims also showing BIS for me are all pieces that give them.

[Ladyoftheforest]

Is this still true today? I've just been following the icy-veins guide and all the sims show Unerring vision/in the rhythm ahead in every scenario. Sims also showing BIS for me are all pieces that give them.

That particular combination I mentioned is not the best. At that time it was the best for me because I didn't have many options. So you can be assured that in general, your raidbot sims are correct.

[Pigglix]

Hm, silly question that is bothering me a bit

On the icy veins guide, during the trushot cd, it says to use aimed shot > arcane shot with marksman proc then back to aimed shot and repeat until its time to use rapid fire.

My question is, after an aimed shot, if i get 2 procced arcane shot, should i spend those two shots before firing aimed shot again, or should i just spend the free arcane shot and go back to aimed shot?

[Azortharion]

The Master Marksman proc is only the first Arcane after Aimed. That is what that line is talking about, not the Precise Shots proc that you might get two of. Even if you get 2 procs of Precise Shots, you still only spend the Master Marksman proc (1 Arcane) during Trueshot, the free one.

[Azortharion]

Icy-Veins Guides more or less updated for Patch 8.3 Release


Still got BiS stuff to do, and I think that some recommendations on the Corruption/Essence front are likely to change as we learn more and the methodology/sim tools improve.


Constructive feedback is always appreciated in my DM's or #guide  feedback.


https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/beast-...-pve-dps-guide
https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/marksm...-pve-dps-guide
https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/surviv...-pve-dps-guide