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  1. #561
    Quote Originally Posted by Hctaz View Post
    It isn't dark magic LOL. The demons use Fel magic which is the exact opposite as Arcane magic. They are able to sense arcane magic. It has nothing to do with "drawing" demons. It isn't evil or dark at all. It's the magic that is used to create and shape things. It's basically like sculpting. Demons can sense the magic. And even still: The demons didn't even come to Azeroth because of the use of magic. That has ALSO been retconned.

    Sargeras knew about Azeroth before arcane magic was used. Demons were drawn to Azeroth because Sargeras knew it was a sleeping titan world soul and wanted to harness its power the same way he was using Argus' world soul. The only thing that happened with Arcane magic was that Sargeras located Azeroth's strongest user of arcane magic (Azshara) and made a bargain with her in order for her to open a gateway through to Azeroth using arcane magic attuned with the Well of Eternity. Use of arcane magic didn't draw them there, the World Soul did. The elves just THOUGHT that arcane magic brought them there which is why they were hesitant to use it again. They saw the cause and effect of arcane magic usage as related despite the fact that they were not. Correlation does not always mean causation. The implication was that arcane use summoned demons. That was false.


    End yes you certainly CAN ignore "basic physics" just because a game has magic. Hell, you can ignore basic physics in a LOT more situations than that. Any game set in any kind of alternative universe does not have to abide by earthly physics at all or in any way. It's a completely separate entity. It has its own physics. The only reason video game physics closely mirror our own is to set a sense of familiarity. It wouldn't feel like a very fun game to play if the basic functions of day to day activities were completely foreign to you.
    fact is light and dark are the only 2 types of magic, everything is a variation of that source magic that basically recreated the big bang and created the physical universe from that same energy, doesnt matter what universe it is you cant create something out of nothing because matter or magic would not have exsisted at that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kenn9530 View Post
    fact is light and dark are the only 2 types of magic, everything is a variation of that source magic that basically recreated the big bang and created the physical universe from that same energy, doesnt matter what universe it is you cant create something out of nothing because matter or magic would not have exsisted at that point.
    So then arcane is really "Dark" and not arcane like you've been arguing this entire time. If everything is a variation of that and you can't have Arcane existing prior to light and dark existing since as you say you can't create something out of nothing.
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  3. #563
    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    So then arcane is really "Dark" and not arcane like you've been arguing this entire time. If everything is a variation of that and you can't have Arcane existing prior to light and dark existing since as you say you can't create something out of nothing.
    the void energy is not specifically called void magic it just mentions its referred as shadow since we dont know for 100% it still wouldnt change that arcane would be a variation of it if that were the case, but since much of the magic mentions its part of arcane is likely arcane is the source and everything is a version of it since the planets with titans themselves have pure arcane energy flowing through them and the universe was created from that light and dark energy, arcane itself is very dark in nature and unstable unless perfectly controlled.
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  4. #564
    Quote Originally Posted by Zyky View Post
    Wait what? Ashbringer SHATTERED Frostmourne thus making it the STRONGER blade.
    More quotes from over a year ago like they were posted yesterday.

    First of all, Ashbringer was Frostmourne's counterpart. My opinion has changed over time to the extent that, in the sense of physical power (using it as a weapon, not a tool), Ashbringer could very well had been on par with Frostmourne.

    However, the fact it shattered Frostmourne had nothing to do with it being 'the stronger blade'. Frostmourne was hit with a fully empowered Ashbringer without being steadied (Held straight up in the air), and even then it was the light magic within Ashbringer that gave it the strength to do what it did. And most likely, the sword itself was a bit weakened because the Lich King was using its power to raise the adventurers, something that would perhaps cause it to not have its own magic strengthen itself as it normally would since it is expending that power.

    There's a little bit of speculation here, but there's more than a little on the other side as well. The simple fact is that nothing in the lore has implied that Ashbringer was stronger than Frostmourne. If anything, it was the fact that Ashbringer was the hard counter to Frostmourne's source of power that made it remotely on par.

  5. #565
    Well, at least Shadowmourne tmogg has been confirmed... That's something.
    Last edited by Galathir; 2019-11-06 at 10:47 AM.

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