1. #1

    Outlaw rogues are in need of a BIG nerf

    They deal HUGE damage in a very short window, it's just absurd.
    Last edited by Schmilblick; 2018-09-06 at 12:27 PM.

  2. #2
    All 3 rogues specs do absurd amount of damage, there even an exploit as sub rogue where you can hit as high as 60-80k when stacking some azerite trait....

    Here Akrololz doing it right on stream lol
    https://clips.twitch.tv/ResourcefulCrypticSardineM4xHeh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minirayzlol View Post
    All 3 rogues specs do absurd amount of damage, there even an exploit as sub rogue where you can hit as high as 60-80k when stacking some azerite trait....

    Here Akrololz doing it right on stream lol
    https://clips.twitch.tv/ResourcefulCrypticSardineM4xHeh
    Stacking an azerite trait doesnt sound like an exploit. But maybe the traits should have some kind of DR when stacked in pvp.

  4. #4
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    It's done:

    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    Rogue - Outlaw
    -Deadshot (Azerite Trait) effectiveness reduced by 45% when engaged in combat with enemy players.

    -Turn the Tables (PvP Talent) increases damage by 10%, down from 15%.

    -Dispatch damage reduced by 15% when engaged in combat with enemy players.

    -Killing Spree damage reduced by 20% when engaged in combat with enemy players.

    -Between the Eyes damage reduced by 20% when engaged in combat with enemy players.

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    I'm still sitting here as an outlaw rogue wondering what was wrong. Our only "burst" CD deals 20k damage before armor reduction. Against plate wearers it's like slapping someone with a wet fish.

    What is this magical build that apparently needs nerf after nerf after nerf that actually makes outlaw not extremely weak in pvp?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powerogue View Post
    I'm still sitting here as an outlaw rogue wondering what was wrong. Our only "burst" CD deals 20k damage before armor reduction. Against plate wearers it's like slapping someone with a wet fish.

    What is this magical build that apparently needs nerf after nerf after nerf that actually makes outlaw not extremely weak in pvp?
    I will tell you
    Give me one sec

    @Powerogue
    Entire video here...but is boring to watch all
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huoZQmverRk

    This is the part showing the insane Pistol Shot Crits and burst
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huoZQmverRk&t=5m48s

    But is nerfed now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maleific View Post
    Stacking an azerite trait doesnt sound like an exploit. But maybe the traits should have some kind of DR when stacked in pvp.
    Def not an exploit, but it IS bad design by Blizz.

    It feels like all the actual competent and good class designers left for better paying jobs in other games and WoW just hired a bunch of pencil necks straight out of online community college to work on BfA class design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Contender Saverem View Post
    Def not an exploit, but it IS bad design by Blizz.

    It feels like all the actual competent and good class designers left for better paying jobs in other games and WoW just hired a bunch of pencil necks straight out of online community college to work on BfA class design.
    cof cof

    Dont tell anyone but the first row talent "Quick Draw" as Outlaw is doing more 100% damage instead of 50%

    Blizzard is clueless
    If it was fixed, its not on patch notes. IDK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowpunkz View Post
    I will tell you
    Give me one sec

    @Powerogue
    Entire video here...but is boring to watch all
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huoZQmverRk

    This is the part showing the insane Pistol Shot Crits and burst
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huoZQmverRk&t=5m48s

    But is nerfed now.
    So if I understand this right they rerolled RTB repeatedly to get a very specific buff (and you're supposed to do that consistently in real pvp, how?), then used that crit buff combined with stacking the "deadshot" azerite trait and killing spree (of which that is literally the only RTB buff that it benefits from) to stack some serious burst.

    Blizzard's response: Nerf absolutely every single outlaw rogue ability in PVP. Yeah, that's fair. ????

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowpunkz View Post
    cof cof

    Dont tell anyone but the first row talent "Quick Draw" as Outlaw is doing more 100% damage instead of 50%

    Blizzard is clueless
    If it was fixed, its not on patch notes. IDK
    And he was probably exploiting that too. Noted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Powerogue View Post
    And he was probably exploiting that too. Noted.
    Yes, he said so on the video.
    You need the proc of pistol shot (quick draw) from extra saber slash before doing the combo.

    So for the combo you need.
    Crit buff
    Pistol Shot proc
    Between the eyes
    Killing Spree
    Pistol Shot at the end and hope it crits for 48k (probably only 25k now after the Azerite trait nerf)

  12. #12
    Just delete this trash class from the game, simple.

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