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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Feederino Senpai View Post
    After 50 wins you'd have a ton of gear btw. It's not just the item from Conq Cap.

    Today I got a total of 19 pieces from doing one hour of 3v3, 6 of them 340+, AND the 345 weapon from Conq Cap (so in reality 20 pieces after one hour). Almost tempted to go enchanting just to be able to DE all the gear I get from arena.
    Thats pure luck! I did 25 wins two days ago and got 1 random 360-item. Your insane luck isnt everyones luck :P
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  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowpunkz View Post
    So i made another thread and deleted it in the end because i thought a Epic BG gave 65 conquest points daily
    BUT IT DOESN'T
    The 65 CP is weekly

    So lets see what a player needs to do to reach the weekly cap EVERYDAY if it isn't a Pvp Brawl week and you dont do arenas.

    Normal BG - 40 CP (280 weekly)
    Weekly Epic BG - 65 CP
    Daily Epic BG - 15 CP (90 weekly)
    Skirmish daily - 15 CP (105 weekly)

    280 + 65 + 90 + 105 = 540

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    If it isn't a PvP Brawl week you need to do religiously everyday until you win
    1)Normal BG
    2)Epic BG
    3)Skirmish

    You can only skip 1 normal BG the entire week.
    This is insanity.
    Considering it just took me 2 hours to do the Normal BG win of the day...and im still missing the Epic BG and Skirmish which could take me more hours depending on luck.

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    The pressure on your gameplay session of the day is insane.
    You need to win.
    Everyday
    The entire week
    If you dont win you get nothing.

    This puts an insane pressure on you and your gameplay session.

    I know there is other daily PvP activities (World PvP)
    But if we add that on top of what we already need to do daily...we are talking insane hours of gameplay daily.
    Probably 4 hours per day...maybe even 5 hours per day.


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    Easy solution: Reduce the weekly cap

    This will put less pressure on us :S
    you forgot to 2 weekly ganking quests for 50 conquest each those take like 5 minutes.... and the free 50 you get from a supply drop.
    it's pretty easy to get capped in a afternoon if you, you know try and know all your options.

  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkaden View Post
    Or , you know, don't worry about the cap and play the game for fun and not like a job?
    Problem is, if you can't get to the cap you aren;t guaranteed to get any decent rewards... If you can't get there within reason, while just playing for fun, there's a problem.
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  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Appelgren View Post
    Thats pure luck! I did 25 wins two days ago and got 1 random 360-item. Your insane luck isnt everyones luck :P
    Well, a 360 is kinda lucky though. And I don't know if they have changed the drop rate, but the two I was playing with got a bunch of epics 340+ aswell.
    Quote Originally Posted by atenime45 View Post
    The 10% reward. It's was unspoken rule that you DONT attack other faction so everyone could enjoy the 10% reward. But now no one cares about that anymore

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Feederino Senpai View Post
    Well, a 360 is kinda lucky though. And I don't know if they have changed the drop rate, but the two I was playing with got a bunch of epics 340+ aswell.
    Thats pure RNG im afraid. Lucky you guys :P
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  6. #26
    Or you know, you could try doing actual PvP for your cap, and not rando BGs.
    Scheduled weekly maintenance caught me by surprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anufis View Post
    Find 1 friend and play 2v2 arena. 10-15 wins = conquest cap.
    Nope its more like 50 games cause each win gives 10 (its less than 50 wins cause first win of the day is 35cp).

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkaden View Post
    HAHAHA great reference.

    Still. You really dont NEED to hit the cap. You just want to.

    Removed - got my answer.
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  9. #29
    It is a very aggressive push to get people into rated PvP, simple as that. Imo Blizzard should have made PvP as a whole more enticing to all WoW players by improving matchmaking in random BGs to avoid the common and completely avoidable lopsided matches, such as matching X healers vs 0 or a full premade vs solo queuers, but most of all make PvP more enticing by taking the reward structure out of the time-gated casino that is the rest of the game at this point.

    I am now going to take a step back and very seriously unleash my intelligence on the state of the game which will be trigger material for some, but here it goes:

    What they should have done is reintroduced PvP gear in concrete terms, with two tiers: honor and conquest gear from vendors. When using PvE gear regardless of ilvl it should have roughly the same power as honor gear, with conquest gear being undoubtedly the best gear to use in PvP. Both honor and conquest gear should be mediocre gear when used in PvE, so that it does not interfere with the meticulously calculated weekly/daily gambling that is PvE now. This would allow for a separate progression that people can make in PvP, a separate timesink, that is far more linear than daily/weekly gambling while still being a timesink.

    Separating PvE from PvP would pull PvPers out of PvE of course, god forbid all lost sub money that would translate into, and it would replace the discrepancy in power between players that raid or have high percentile ratings with a discrepancy between players that have either conquest or honor gear, oh the horror. People would also have to carry around a PvP set again, not just change talents every time they switch from PvE to PvP.

    The point is that all this is a very small price to pay from a player's perspective for the opportunity for everyone to be able to get a full set of conquest again, with people at low ratings or people doing nothing other than battlegrounds simply completing the set slower. In fact, it would be a much more level playing field than it has been in years, despite all the smoke and mirrors of templates, scaling or deceptively coining a completely unrelated reward system "conquest", all of which were really only cooked up to facilitate the shameless casino that is now permeating all reward structures in this game, including PvP.

    tl;dr Blizzard is spitting in the "casual" player's face and coercing him onto the ladders. What they should have done instead is draw more people to PvP in general starting with the "casuals" in random BGs, and then the ladders would have naturally filled up. Why doesn't Blizzard do this? because it directly clashes with the reward systems of PvE, which they unfortunately decided should include PvP.
    Last edited by Thelxi; 2018-09-07 at 06:33 PM.

  10. #30
    I did arenas for about 3 hours yesterday and got capped.

    /shrug

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Feederino Senpai View Post
    After 50 wins you'd have a ton of gear btw. It's not just the item from Conq Cap.

    Today I got a total of 19 pieces from doing one hour of 3v3, 6 of them 340+, AND the 345 weapon from Conq Cap (so in reality 20 pieces after one hour). Almost tempted to go enchanting just to be able to DE all the gear I get from arena.
    True I forgot about the RNG drops.

  12. #32
    so am i the only one that likes this... I mean i get the vast majority of you complaining are pve pleb's but honestly.
    they basically make the weekly gring slightly harder and add a weekly mythic plus chest for pvp and you swarm in like leechs and complain you have to do stuff without even knowing all the sources of conquest. because you want a chance at a nice item with pvp stats priorities on it.

    go join a call to arms group and get 100 conquest for 4 minutes of standing there.
    do one rated bg for another 100, that'll take like 30 minutes + at lower ratings it's mostly headless chicken groups anyway.
    cap a supply crate for another 50.

    that's 250 for like at most 2 and half hours of "work". Stop acting as if content not intended for you is flawed or counter intuitive because you don't like it.

  13. #33
    Quote Originally Posted by Thelxi View Post
    It is a very aggressive push to get people into rated PvP, simple as that.
    Agreed

    I already started spaming Arenas with randos in LFG.

    Because thats what the system wants me to do.

    Oh well...i guess i can adapt. No problem i guess

  14. #34
    I really don't see how this is a problem unless you win like only 10% of your BGs

  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Sithalos View Post
    Or you know, you could try doing actual PvP for your cap, and not rando BGs.
    Detmatchbawks isnt the only form of PvP. In fact, its historically been the least-particpipated-in form of PvP, by a huge margin.

  16. #36
    Its not bad to get at all unless you are trying to do all of them solo on multiple alts. 100 from weekly quests, 40 for daily brawl, 40 for daily BG, 65 for brawl quest turn in, 35 daily 2s win, 50 daily 3s win, 100 daily for YOLO rbg and 65 for weekly epic BG win. The only thing they need to change is epic BGs resetting weekly when they should be daily, then you could easily cap without having to do rated. Right now every week you can get almost half your CQ cap every tuesday on reset for doing non rated stuff (warmode kills, daily bg win, daily epic BG win = 210 CQ)

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowpunkz View Post
    Agreed

    I already started spaming Arenas with randos in LFG.

    Because thats what the system wants me to do.

    Oh well...i guess i can adapt. No problem i guess
    no the system wants you to fuck around with your friend on discord.

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by Jekys12yearold brother View Post
    no the system wants you to fuck around with your friend on discord.
    i have no friends on my alt. He is completely isolated.

    He is from a different faction from my friends and on a different server.

  19. #39
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowpunkz View Post
    Agreed

    I already started spaming Arenas with randos in LFG.

    Because thats what the system wants me to do.

    Oh well...i guess i can adapt. No problem i guess
    Why do you feel so forced to cap Conq? If it is for the weapon upgrade, go do mythic dungeons, or heck buy one from AH that is higher ilvl? No one is forcing you to do anything, it is all in your mind. It is only a 345 piece of weapon.

    I just dont understand why you are forcing your self to do something you dont want to do in a damn video game. It's not like Conq Cap is the ONLY way to obtain a new shiny weapon.
    Quote Originally Posted by atenime45 View Post
    The 10% reward. It's was unspoken rule that you DONT attack other faction so everyone could enjoy the 10% reward. But now no one cares about that anymore

  20. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowpunkz View Post
    i have no friends on my alt. He is completely isolated.

    He is from a different faction from my friends and on a different server.
    well then in that case the problem is poor planning on your part not the system.

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