Shrouded Suffocation next on the chopping block?

[shaunika123]

Yup.

Still more complicated than blindly spamming 2/3 AoE buttons, which is the case with the rest classes.

sub still multidots just the same

and it has to manage dance/sectec cooldown properly between packs


assa isnt special, putting it on some sort of pedestal is laughable.

maybe it has a higher skill floor, but the skillcap on it is definitely not something insane.

[GenericName]

and how would you go about farming m+ pieces for it?

other than maybe sacrifice a goat every tuesday?

I didn't know azurite armor doesn't drop from M+ chests, because it's an absolutely retarded design decision that makes no sense. Oh well.

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From the reddit q&a we know that azerite Armor has bad luck Protektion within the chest. Meaning that every week you dont drop azerite armor, the Chances are increasing that you get one in the next chest

[Eazy]

sub still multidots just the same

and it has to manage dance/sectec cooldown properly between packs


assa isnt special, putting it on some sort of pedestal is laughable.

maybe it has a higher skill floor, but the skillcap on it is definitely not something insane.

I wasn't comparing it to the other rog specs, I was comparing it to the other DPS specs.

[shaunika123]

I didn't know azurite armor doesn't drop from M+ chests, because it's an absolutely retarded design decision that makes no sense. Oh well.

it would be just as retarded if it dropped from m+ chests

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From the reddit q&a we know that azerite Armor has bad luck Protektion within the chest. Meaning that every week you dont drop azerite armor, the Chances are increasing that you get one in the next chest

there are still some open questions:

Does looting another chest ( pvp chest , weekly dungeon uldir hc chest ) break up your mythic+ azerite bad luck protection? because i got an 340 azerite piece yesterday from the arathi lootchest.

So.. it pretty sucks , it made me not wanting to loot/complete any kind of chest until i got a 385 azerite piece out of my m+ chest ^^

[shaunika123]

there are still some open questions:

Does looting another chest ( pvp chest , weekly dungeon uldir hc chest ) break up your mythic+ azerite bad luck protection? because i got an 340 azerite piece yesterday from the arathi lootchest.

So.. it pretty sucks , it made me not wanting to loot/complete any kind of chest until i got a 385 azerite piece out of my m+ chest ^^

it's only the chest itself

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No way they can nerf SS without some kind of compensation buff... I hope...

That's not how nerfs work.. you don't get compensated for a reduction, you just get a reduction.

[mitre27]

That's not how nerfs work.. you don't get compensated for a reduction, you just get a reduction.

A nerf to SS is a huge nerf to sin overall as it stands, and without SS sin is fairly weak.

[Mafic]

I don't see it being nerfed to be honest but WoW devs are in very inconsistent with intent of Azerite armor system and traits. Maybe tomorrow reveals the direction they want to go.

I do not see SS as an outlier but merely in line of spec defining trait which WoW devs want to emphasize moving forward. Other spec defining traits need to be buffed IMO.

[Varolyn]

I don't see it being nerfed to be honest but WoW devs are in very inconsistent with intent of Azerite armor system and traits. Maybe tomorrow reveals the direction they want to go.

I do not see SS as an outlier but merely in line of spec defining trait which WoW devs want to emphasize moving forward. Other spec defining traits need to be buffed IMO.

Is garrote really spec defining for assassination though? I see what you mean on spec specific traits being stronger than general traits, but idk, when I think assassination, I think of drowning my enemy in poisons. Also, something about garrote being 25% of assassin's damage just feels really dirty. Early Legion assassination suffered a similar issue and it did work itself out over time but there is no Kingsbane in BFA and so far assassination really doesn't feel like a poison master anymore.

[Mafic]

WoW devs refuse to give bleed fantasy back to Sub so yeah Assassination is the go to spec for bleed and poisons fantasy now. With poisons and bleeds Assassination is going to shift back and forth as favoring one or another.

That is a good problem to have.

[GenericName]

it would be just as retarded if it dropped from m+ chests

I meant it would at least be better if you could get azurite pieces in the M+ end chest, and target which pieces of gear you want rather than praying you win the lottery with the weekly cache. Do you like to argue or what?

[shaunika123]

I meant it would at least be better if you could get azurite pieces in the M+ end chest, and target which pieces of gear you want rather than praying you win the lottery with the weekly cache. Do you like to argue or what?

on one hand yes

on the other hand

that'd be a literal infinite supply of azerite armors
which imo would be super bad.

[elfporn]

on one hand yes

on the other hand

that'd be a literal infinite supply of azerite armors
which imo would be super bad.

How would it be bad though? It's not significantly different than other gear. The main traits aren't random. What makes being able to farm for an azerite piece different from being able to farm for any other piece? The idea that you could farm for a BiS piece?

[RobertoCarlos]

on one hand yes

on the other hand

that'd be a literal infinite supply of azerite armors
which imo would be super bad.

Your argument makes no sense.

Being able to farm an item isnt a bad thing. Or do you think World bosses having strong trinkets where you only get one chance a month is good gameplay or something?

[shaunika123]

How would it be bad though? It's not significantly different than other gear. The main traits aren't random. What makes being able to farm for an azerite piece different from being able to farm for any other piece? The idea that you could farm for a BiS piece?

they are very different

it'd be the equivalent of tier sets being infinitely farmable.

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Your argument makes no sense.

Being able to farm an item isnt a bad thing. Or do you think World bosses having strong trinkets where you only get one chance a month is good gameplay or something?

only a sith talks in absolutes

[RobertoCarlos]

they are very different

it'd be the equivalent of tier sets being infinitely farmable.

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only a sith talks in absolutes

lol its the internet, how else do you make a point without going to extremes!?

[shaunika123]

lol its the internet, how else do you make a point without going to extremes!?

I guess

But I think if they somehow made it so you cant loot more than 1 azerite/week I'd be okay with it.

it being infinitely available is a big nono though.

[RobertoCarlos]

I guess

But I think if they somehow made it so you cant loot more than 1 azerite/week I'd be okay with it.

it being infinitely available is a big nono though.

I get where you're coming from, but they are not that different to a trinket or weapon. They are not ground breaking/exciting enough to warrant that kind of carrot on a stick treatment.

The traits have clear BiS so you cant have fun chasing spec specific or build specific options because once again the boring passive options are strongest.

Iconically assassin is the rare exception here where a spec specific trait is the strongest so that makes it safer to the nerf bat, but you still have the problem of not being able to target it, which leaves you at the whims of RNG which is frustrating gameplay IMO