1. #1

    looking for a rogue bis resource

    and not a resource that shows only raid bis and not im talking about bis mixing pvp drops world drops and mythic+ drops

  2. #2
    I recommend simply doing your thing get gear whether its raiding, m+, wq's, etc. and simming new pieces since it's highly unlikely you'll get BIS maxed ilvl pieces.

  3. #3
    Short answer: There is none.

    Long answer: In times of tf,wf and m+ azerite pieces only dropping in weekly chests you can only look at sim charts of the specific azerite traits like herodamage or bloodmallet. The statweights are often really close or different azerite pieces favor different stats that a simple bis list is not really possible.
    Dying could endanger your health!

  4. #4
    no point to bother with it

    loot is so volatile right now that there is no point in a bis list.

    the only thing that are important are trinkets and azerite traits.

  5. #5
    welcome to BFA - you will need to sim every single piece of loot you get in order to determine if it's an upgrade, enjoy your stay!

  6. #6
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    Bloodmallet will give you an indication for trinkets and azerite traits
    https://bloodmallet.com/index.html#rogue_outlaw

    Otherwise like others pointed out there isn't really a good way to maintain a bis list for gear now.
    Use the output from simc add-on in raidbots to generate a pawn string for your stat weights and keep it updated.
    Stat weights can shift around quite a bit when you replace gear.
    Also tend to be very different for patchwerk or heavycleave when you sim them.
    It's easy to do tho.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by Shenjin View Post
    Bloodmallet will give you an indication for trinkets and azerite traits
    https://bloodmallet.com/index.html#rogue_outlaw

    Otherwise like others pointed out there isn't really a good way to maintain a bis list for gear now.
    Use the output from simc add-on in raidbots to generate a pawn string for your stat weights and keep it updated.
    Stat weights can shift around quite a bit when you replace gear.
    Also tend to be very different for patchwerk or heavycleave when you sim them.
    It's easy to do tho.
    Bloodmallet is currently not that accurate as herodamage. It doesn't work well with SS traits according to the Raventhold rogue discord group:
    Quote Originally Posted by Aethys
    I've seen this "issue" popping off a lot in #assassination and wants to clarify it.
    Shrouded Suffocation was not further nerfed than what it was 11 days ago.
    The default SimC profile changed from Subterfuge to Master Assassin, which made Shrouded Suffocation dropping by a lot on any Azerite chart that is not using a talent override or the exsanguinate profile.
    Due to this (and also similar issues with other classes/specs like BM Hunter, Frost Mage, ...) we added talents overrides based on combinations sims in all HeroDamage Azerite chart (scroll up a bit if you want more details).
    If you're looking at sims without that, then yes SS is at the end of the chart, but with a proper setup it'll show up (currently ranked #2 behind DD in pure ST)

    Also, do remember (scroll up again if you want more details) that Hero Dungeon sims cannot re-stealth between each packs, which undervalue a lot the power of SS in M+ (and MA btw). This is a known limitation of SimC and cannot be fixed easily/quickly since it requires a lot of changes (the program was never made with these behaviors in mind).

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