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    i finish a while ago, i didn't comment about, but i must say that i, for the most part that i watched star wars i never liked or cared about Boba Fett, to me he was a meh edgy guy, who didn't do much, of course i only watch the movies, so that was my view of him, and i didn't like, it was just a colored trooper with clown armor.

    And never liked much Luke cause he always seem to be a whelp, weak, whinny, never did something, i always get pissed how he called himself 'master" and the jabba mission was a clusterfuck, he could just have used the force to wreak everyone, so i saw him as pathetic since the movies never put him as the "master jedi" other medias did.

    But the last episodes made me change my mind about then, rly liked Boba, rly like the approaching of him doing something, making him put his abilities to use,(him being tied with that mandalorian was darn forced but ok..) Also Luke fucking up the droids with the force, finally i saw why he was a "master"

    i saw how they were good, i was not being told they were while seeing different, rly liked this approach even as minor apareces, i didn't care about boba show, but now im invested.

  2. #2982
    The Mandalorian: Luke’s Return Wasn’t In The Season 2 Finale Script.

    https://screenrant.com/mandalorian-s...cript-details/
    BY ANA DUMARAOG 14 HOURS AGO

    even the cast and crew weren't aware that it was happening. Gina Carano, who plays Cara Dune in The Mandalorian, revealed this during a recent interview with Drunk 3PO, as well as how she and the rest of the people on set filming that day found out about it.

    “I started finding out about it in the makeup trailer, basically because you’re like, ‘Oh wait, who’s that?’ And because they didn’t say it in the script…everyone that has worked on The Mandalorian is insane, like insane Star Wars fans. And they have the shirts, and they’re like, ‘Wait a second.’ And so, everybody starts doing a little whispering.”


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    Actually, I thought they will make at least 1 more season with baby Yoda. Now I wanna cry

  4. #2984
    Quote Originally Posted by w4rrenmenson View Post
    Actually, I thought they will make at least 1 more season with baby Yoda. Now I wanna cry
    I'm sure we'll get to see one or more scenes in season three with baby grogu training with Luke, some easter eggs and hopefully we'll get Yoda's ghost interacting with Grogu, that would be sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    The Mandalorian: Luke’s Return Wasn’t In The Season 2 Finale Script.

    https://screenrant.com/mandalorian-s...cript-details/
    BY ANA DUMARAOG 14 HOURS AGO

    even the cast and crew weren't aware that it was happening. Gina Carano, who plays Cara Dune in The Mandalorian, revealed this during a recent interview with Drunk 3PO, as well as how she and the rest of the people on set filming that day found out about it.

    “I started finding out about it in the makeup trailer, basically because you’re like, ‘Oh wait, who’s that?’ And because they didn’t say it in the script…everyone that has worked on The Mandalorian is insane, like insane Star Wars fans. And they have the shirts, and they’re like, ‘Wait a second.’ And so, everybody starts doing a little whispering.”

    It likely was in THE script but not in the scripts given to some characters.

    They were keeping in secret.
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    How much of the original EU can Realistically be Written into the new Timeline?

    The Mandalorian can certainly open options, like Mara Jade character coming in and who knows what else from the original EU - which got me wondering, how much of the original EU can they actually officially fit into the new timeline without altering anything about it?

    Also another theory crafting exercise would be how much of the original EU can they adapt too? for e.g. taking many stories from the original Eu, and rather than outright removing them, just adapting them to this new timeline, almost like it was an alternate timeline with lots of similarities but differences as well.

    If let's say they could, what from the original EU would you like to see show up in shows like The Mandalorian and others

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beloren View Post
    How much of the original EU can Realistically be Written into the new Timeline?

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    Zsinj as one big a-hole of an Imperial Warlord would be good. Show how hard it is for the New Republic to get things done when clever bastards run their little empires.

    Since Thrawn is back and as a counter-point to Zsinj a return of Gilad Pellaeon as the cool-headed gentleman officer who's REALLY oldschool and not a xenophob would fit nicely.

    Mara Jade, obviously.
    Which means Talon Karrde should return as well.

    Rouge Squadron, with Wedge, Corran and a few others. With a bit less plot armour to keep the suspense up.

    The Hapani as one of the neutral factions that the Republic tries to desperately get on their side in the conflict.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syegfryed View Post
    i finish a while ago, i didn't comment about, but i must say that i, for the most part that i watched star wars i never liked or cared about Boba Fett, to me he was a meh edgy guy, who didn't do much, of course i only watch the movies, so that was my view of him, and i didn't like, it was just a colored trooper with clown armor.

    And never liked much Luke cause he always seem to be a whelp, weak, whinny, never did something, i always get pissed how he called himself 'master" and the jabba mission was a clusterfuck, he could just have used the force to wreak everyone, so i saw him as pathetic since the movies never put him as the "master jedi" other medias did.

    But the last episodes made me change my mind about then, rly liked Boba, rly like the approaching of him doing something, making him put his abilities to use,(him being tied with that mandalorian was darn forced but ok..) Also Luke fucking up the droids with the force, finally i saw why he was a "master"

    i saw how they were good, i was not being told they were while seeing different, rly liked this approach even as minor apareces, i didn't care about boba show, but now im invested.
    Perfect example of show it, dont tell it

    That being said the new triology just completely destroyed Luke for me. Especially the 2nd movie. I like Daisy and Adam and i think they would have done well if they where handed a better story

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beloren View Post
    The Mandalorian can certainly open options, like Mara Jade character coming in and who knows what else from the original EU - which got me wondering, how much of the original EU can they actually officially fit into the new timeline without altering anything about it?
    Zero. Everything has to be modified to fit the Disney era stuff because nothing happened in the same way as the EU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle View Post
    Zero. Everything has to be modified to fit the Disney era stuff because nothing happened in the same way as the EU.
    Can the new version turn out good? Cos I'll be honest, whiles I didn't mind the sequel movies for what they were (except for 9, which was a bit all over the place, but was good entertainment), I was very disappointed in the direction they took. They just seemd to repeat episode 4-6, which is not that big a deal because you can off course do more movies and series after that period that bring somethign new except for two major problems

    1. The sequel moveis seem to be the end of everything, and nothing planned happens after epsode 9 - which means
    2. The entire star wars saga ends in a massive disappointment
    a) Luke and all the effort of 1-6, seem to have amounted to nothing - I can understand ups and downs, new threats, but Luke, turns out to be ajoke pretty much sticking a dagger in all things star wars before Disney takes over - which people may have been okay with, except that eveyrthing that has followed has relaly not measured up. New heroes not measured up, new world, and state of hte galaxy..nothing
    b) Everything happpens again and everything gets destroyed. i really didn't need to see the resistnace on the verge of being wiped out.. again, after Episode IV and Episode V, and pretty much most of episode VI - just to have a repeat again? but then
    c) It ends with Rey the only force using survivor? Wtf, you mean they've force fed us star wars fo the last 40 years, done coutnless material - films/series, comics, books, video games etc - the jedi are an institutionand just a core part of the universe and this is how they end? It's not just htat, what replaces them, a lone female - it's all just really disappointing.

    So while I liked some of hte movies, even enjoyed watchign htem, the direction and plot do not make me excited about Star Wars - and that was the problem we face.

    Question now remains, is with new Mandalorian developments, can they turn it around. Can they breathe life into all those dead ends they created - can they make what the sequels turned tou to be nsomething better because there is a grander scheme and start sending feelers into future plots?

    The original EU had a lot of good characters and thigns, and while they would undoubtedly use some of that material and adopt it - and hthis is likely to mean characters, force abilities and locations, laents etc, can they weave a cohesive story once more and a future that actually will make me excited about star wars again?

    That's what i wonder. Frankly I still think their best bet is is to destroy Rey's reality, and and she survives switching to an alternate relaity, the only remaining one, and into the past where the events of 7-9 don't happen (as told in a seires) till the real threat that destroyed her own reality comes to that universe and this time they have a fighting chance.

    Ofc there are other things htey could do with the main timeline that will excite people considerably.

    What if force ghosts who's bodies went to the force - like Yoda, Obi Wan, Luke are able to come back ? Either by will, for a second final life or two experience a mortal death or maybe something happens to the force and these guys and a few others come back or have no choice but to return to being corporeal beings as a new plot unfolds.

  11. #2991
    I thoroughly enjoyed this new season. Mandalorian is probably the best Star Wars content ever produced if you ask me. Still, I liked the first season a bit more; the story felt more small-scale which I liked a lot. Still, I only have 2 fairly small complaints; one, that they kind of dialed up the fanservice to 11 in the second half of the season with all the EU characters, and two that the Stormtroopers in this were if anything even more useless than in the movies, with the main characters massacring them by the dozens without breaking stride, killing all the tension out of their fight scenes. I ended up skipping these sequences as they offered little of interest TBH.

    All that said, I'm stoked for season 3 and hope the Book of Boba Fett will be as good as this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jastall View Post
    I thoroughly enjoyed this new season. Mandalorian is probably the best Star Wars content ever produced if you ask me. Still, I liked the first season a bit more; the story felt more small-scale which I liked a lot. Still, I only have 2 fairly small complaints; one, that they kind of dialed up the fanservice to 11 in the second half of the season with all the EU characters, and two that the Stormtroopers in this were if anything even more useless than in the movies, with the main characters massacring them by the dozens without breaking stride, killing all the tension out of their fight scenes. I ended up skipping these sequences as they offered little of interest TBH.

    All that said, I'm stoked for season 3 and hope the Book of Boba Fett will be as good as this.
    Basic troopers in the Empire have always been next to useless...they even joked about it with those two Scout troopers who had Grogu. Both of them shooting and completely missing the target. They're probably even more useless now as the remnant can't afford to be picky in anyways...taking anyone they can get.
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  13. #2993
    Quote Originally Posted by Darththeo View Post
    It likely was in THE script but not in the scripts given to some characters.

    They were keeping in secret.
    Wouldn't surprise me if this was the case. They [Disney] did the same when it came to Infinity War and Endgame, where they only gave the actors scripts for the scenes they were in. To the point that some of the cast members were given multiple fake full scripts just to annoy them. Also it wouldn't be the first time that sort of thing happened in Star Wars. The big twist in Empire (Vader = Lukes dad) was not in the script when they filmed that scene. Mark Hamill talks about how he was told afterwards and had to keep it a secret.
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  14. #2994
    This is just lovely from the twitters

    Mark Hamill
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    Dear @MrPeytonReed,

    I am so grateful to have been given the unexpected opportunity to revisit my character when he was still a symbol of hope & optimism.

    Your assured direction & kindness was a crucial element in the experience & means more to me than I can say.

    #ThankYOU

    Peyton Reed
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    Dear @HamillHimself,

    When I was a kid, this photo hung on my bedroom wall. STAR WARS, and Luke Skywalker in particular, meant a great deal to me.

    Some things never change.

    It was an honor and a dream come true to work with you on @themandalorian. Thank you. #MTFBWY

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kithelle View Post
    Basic troopers in the Empire have always been next to useless...they even joked about it with those two Scout troopers who had Grogu. Both of them shooting and completely missing the target. They're probably even more useless now as the remnant can't afford to be picky in anyways...taking anyone they can get.
    Sure, but if it's not interesting, it's not interesting, regardless of whether there exists some canon reason or precedent to explain it. The middle of the season definitely kind of dragged a bit with the "Our unstoppable heroes fight a faceless contingent of inept morons" filling in every action sequence for multiple episodes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    "Our unstoppable heroes fight a faceless contingent of inept morons" filling in every action sequence for multiple episodes.
    But...that's always been Star Wars.

    The only thing that changes is what variety of inept moron will our unstoppable heroes face....Storm Troopers or "battle droids".

    Never look for tension when the heroes are facing fodder.

    The battle for Naboo in provides the clearest example of this I think

    There's 3 fronts to it...The Space fight, The Army fight, and the infiltration fight.

    The Space fight is ended by a 9 year old crashing his ship.
    The Army fight is end by Jar Jar tripping over his own feet.

    The only moments of tension are in the infiltration...because that's where Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon fight Darth Maul.
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  17. #2997
    Quote Originally Posted by Beloren View Post
    How much of the original EU can Realistically be Written into the new Timeline?
    All I want is an official, canonized version of Shadows of the Empire. Rewrite it, revamp it, update it if you have to, but the basics of the story were all there for a Rogue One style gap-closer.

    Some of the ship designs in the series needs to be brought back into canon (beyond just the outrider).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Egomaniac View Post
    But...that's always been Star Wars.

    The only thing that changes is what variety of inept moron will our unstoppable heroes face....Storm Troopers or "battle droids".

    Never look for tension when the heroes are facing fodder.

    The battle for Naboo in provides the clearest example of this I think

    There's 3 fronts to it...The Space fight, The Army fight, and the infiltration fight.

    The Space fight is ended by a 9 year old crashing his ship.
    The Army fight is end by Jar Jar tripping over his own feet.

    The only moments of tension are in the infiltration...because that's where Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon fight Darth Maul.
    Yeah and that's boring filler.

    Tusken Raiders and colonists joining forces to fight a Krayt Dragon? Badass as hell.

    Mando fighting Moff Gideon spear-vs-darksaber? Awesome.

    Mando trying to board a racing Sandcrawler while the Jawas try and repel him? Super cool.

    Mando going predator mode and taking out his backstabbing accomplices one-by-one on the republic prison vessel? Dynamic and interesting.

    But our (literally) plot-armored heroes ducking behind pillars to blast down faceless stormtroopers/droids/thugs? Trite and overplayed. I'm not saying that this sort of rote action isn't expected in star wars, I'm saying they should shoot for better than that. Because it's obvious they can do it.

    Also, the prequels are the exact opposite of anything that should be pointed to for "dramatic tension." Those films carry zero character weight and heft as they just sort of meander through CGI setpiece to CGI setpiece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ihavewaffles View Post
    This is just lovely from the twitters
    I was looking through the replies and he's getting hundreds of people telling him he's not allowed to even mention his dislike of his character's portrayal. How can people actually tweet to him telling him to stop talking about his own character? Crazy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pebrocks The Warlock View Post
    I was looking through the replies and he's getting hundreds of people telling him he's not allowed to even mention his dislike of his character's portrayal. How can people actually tweet to him telling him to stop talking about his own character? Crazy.
    I copied from a website that had hamill's tweet up,

    https://screenrant.com/mandalorian-s...walker-thanks/

    I don't go to actual twitter, it's a toxic shithole...
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