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    Quote Originally Posted by Jehct View Post
    Ughh.. When did this site become a far right bastion.. Literally the first 15 mins of the first episode there are no women... the 2nd episode.. 1 woman with few lines.. This show is already dog shit and lacks diversity. Shame on you.
    Okay zoomer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jehct View Post
    Ughh.. When did this site become a far right bastion.. Literally the first 15 mins of the first episode there are no women... the 2nd episode.. 1 woman with few lines.. This show is already dog shit and lacks diversity. Shame on you.
    I know it. I fucking KNOW it that by the end of the 1st season, the guy is gonna take his helmet off, and it's gonna be Brie Larson with a voice changer. And then Twitter will go "Ha! Take that, incels!".

    How do I know it?
    1. Because "The Force is female" - Disney
    2. Because the guy never takes his helmet off, making it suspicious and highly probable that Disney wants to push a female character but knows that all people who aren't SJWs will just roll their eyes and likely ignore the show, so they're literally saving it for later when the viewers are already hooked, and anyone complaining about it then will be called a sexist, mysogynist, incel, racist, homophobic, white supremacist, Trump supporter, and afraid of strong women.

    I'm not even gonna sub to Disney+ until I get evidence that it's not going to be a huge bait&switch on the fans, by Disney because "The force is female".

    Did you know that Disney refused to pay for the making of an action movie with Dolph Lundgren and Sylvester Stalone because it was "toxic masculinity" and not focused on women?! https://boundingintocomics.com/2019/...emale-focused/

    Considering the above, do you honestly believe that the Mandalorian is really a man?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmar View Post
    I know it. I fucking KNOW it that by the end of the 1st season, the guy is gonna take his helmet off, and it's gonna be Brie Larson with a voice changer. And then Twitter will go "Ha! Take that, incels!".

    How do I know it?
    1. Because "The Force is female" - Disney
    2. Because the guy never takes his helmet off, making it suspicious and highly probable that Disney wants to push a female character but knows that all people who aren't SJWs will just roll their eyes and likely ignore the show, so they're literally saving it for later when the viewers are already hooked, and anyone complaining about it then will be called a sexist, mysogynist, incel, racist, homophobic, white supremacist, Trump supporter, and afraid of strong women.

    I'm not even gonna sub to Disney+ until I get evidence that it's not going to be a huge bait&switch on the fans, by Disney because "The force is female".

    Did you know that Disney refused to pay for the making of an action movie with Dolph Lundgren and Sylvester Stalone because it was "toxic masculinity" and not focused on women?! https://boundingintocomics.com/2019/...emale-focused/

    Considering the above, do you honestly believe that the Mandalorian is really a man?!
    Hilarious.

    That was all sarcastic right? It is sometimes hard to tell through text alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skizzit View Post
    Hilarious.

    That was all sarcastic right? It is sometimes hard to tell through text alone.
    Since I can pretty much guarantee that Jehct believes none of what he said, those two posts are basically the
    Literally nobody:


    Star Wars fans: RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE SJWs RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE!!!
    meme personified.
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  5. #325
    Quote Originally Posted by Jehct View Post
    Ughh.. When did this site become a far right bastion.. Literally the first 15 mins of the first episode there are no women... the 2nd episode.. 1 woman with few lines.. This show is already dog shit and lacks diversity. Shame on you.
    The main actor is an immigrant from South America and in episode 1 I saw plenty of non white people. Diversity is fine.
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    Anything by Kevin Anderson or after Vong arch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    None of that is how to make characters interesting.

    Who actually IS he? Like what is his personality. If you can describe them without mentioning what they look like, what costume they wore, what their profession is or what role they have.

    Example: "my friend is silly and loves to crack jokes. She means well but sometimes lacks ambition. She has incredible social skills but doesn't apply herself enough. She is warm hearted but also fierce and will defend a viewpoint or a friend without hesitation."

    THERE I've described someone. And I did it in a way that has nothing to do with the TV show or movie. You don't need to know a thing about a story to know that character.
    Again, one of the most basic fundamentals of "good writing" is "show, don't tell".

    If you have to tell your audience that this character is honorable but lacks compassion, dogged but beaten down by society, trying to find their place in the galaxy while staying true to their adopted clan, that's dogshit-level writing. If you've got other characters saying that stuff, that's "telling", not showing.

    Instead, we've already had the Mandalorian's personality displayed to us, as I just paraphrased it above. And we're only two episodes in. We're not done learning about the character, and you shouldn't expect to be done until the show is over. And by that, I don't mean this season, I mean they're done with the character completely.

    The show is communicating these things. By showing you. Rather than telling you. Framing it like you did in actual text/dialogue is Twilight-fanfic-level writing.

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    Just watched the 2nd episode and so far I'm loving it. This week has been great so far for Star Wars fans. Mandalorian, Fallen Order, less than a month for Rise of Skywalker..

    Man, I'm so happy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    None of that is how to make characters interesting.

    Who actually IS he? Like what is his personality. If you can describe them without mentioning what they look like, what costume they wore, what their profession is or what role they have.

    Example: "my friend is silly and loves to crack jokes. She means well but sometimes lacks ambition. She has incredible social skills but doesn't apply herself enough. She is warm hearted but also fierce and will defend a viewpoint or a friend without hesitation."

    THERE I've described someone. And I did it in a way that has nothing to do with the TV show or movie. You don't need to know a thing about a story to know that character.

    This would be derivative and bad storytelling. You shouldn't and couldn't know the character of a person in the first two episodes. Characters should be revealed through how they act, not through dumb expository dialogue saying, "Oh, well, you're a Mandolorian, you must have endured the trials of some such to make you a badass something or the other."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kokolums View Post
    None of that is how to make characters interesting.

    Who actually IS he? Like what is his personality. If you can describe them without mentioning what they look like, what costume they wore, what their profession is or what role they have.

    Example: "my friend is silly and loves to crack jokes. She means well but sometimes lacks ambition. She has incredible social skills but doesn't apply herself enough. She is warm hearted but also fierce and will defend a viewpoint or a friend without hesitation."

    THERE I've described someone. And I did it in a way that has nothing to do with the TV show or movie. You don't need to know a thing about a story to know that character.
    You're entire idea here breaks a fundamental story telling rule: "Show, don't tell".

    We've learned a lot about The Mandalorian so far. He's ruthless but honorable. He cares about his clan and it is why he does bounty hunting work. He prefers legitimate bounties (Like catching bail jumpers) than doing underground work though he will take underground work.

    As the show goes on we will learn more. The stories intention is for him to be mysterious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IIBloodXLustII View Post
    As the show goes on we will learn more. The stories intention is for him to be mysterious.
    And seriously, the point of character-based storytelling like this is to learn about and explore that character. We should still be learning, or watching him grow and change as a person, right up to the show's final episodes. The idea that you should have a firm grasp on their entire personality and backstory at the end of S1E01 is monumentally silly.

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    Please add to the discussion, don't just drop a review link with nothing else with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sygmar View Post
    I know it. I fucking KNOW it that by the end of the 1st season, the guy is gonna take his helmet off, and it's gonna be Brie Larson with a voice changer. And then Twitter will go "Ha! Take that, incels!".

    How do I know it?
    1. Because "The Force is female" - Disney
    2. Because the guy never takes his helmet off, making it suspicious and highly probable that Disney wants to push a female character but knows that all people who aren't SJWs will just roll their eyes and likely ignore the show, so they're literally saving it for later when the viewers are already hooked, and anyone complaining about it then will be called a sexist, mysogynist, incel, racist, homophobic, white supremacist, Trump supporter, and afraid of strong women.

    I'm not even gonna sub to Disney+ until I get evidence that it's not going to be a huge bait&switch on the fans, by Disney because "The force is female".

    Did you know that Disney refused to pay for the making of an action movie with Dolph Lundgren and Sylvester Stalone because it was "toxic masculinity" and not focused on women?! https://boundingintocomics.com/2019/...emale-focused/

    Considering the above, do you honestly believe that the Mandalorian is really a man?!
    I never understood the whole pissed off nature of the Force being female ... we call our force of nature Mother Nature ... we call nature and life on Earth female ... therefor I don't get the point of being upset over it. So I hope this is sarcasm.

    And the second point is silly. Boba Fett never removed his helmet in the OT. More evidence for sarcasm.
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    Through power I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken. The Force shall set me free.
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    As some one who only really likes Starwars for the force related stuff I was surprised that I liked the first two episodes so much.

    Over all the Starwarsy stuff doesn’t really matter to me as most of it isn’t force related but as just standing on its own acting and display wise I’ve been super happy.

    Also seeing jawa’s die brings me great joy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitor210 View Post
    Just watched the 2nd episode and so far I'm loving it. This week has been great so far for Star Wars fans. Mandalorian, Fallen Order, less than a month for Rise of Skywalker..

    Man, I'm so happy
    Prepare to be disappointed on that last part.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daemos daemonium View Post
    As some one who only really likes Starwars for the force related stuff I was surprised that I liked the first two episodes so much.

    Over all the Starwarsy stuff doesn’t really matter to me as most of it isn’t force related but as just standing on its own acting and display wise I’ve been super happy.

    Also seeing jawa’s die brings me great joy.
    Same. This is why I keep hoping for an Old Republic trilogy/series.

    Ive enjoyed the series so far and absolutely loving the yoda baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by babalou1 View Post
    Same. This is why I keep hoping for an Old Republic trilogy/series.
    no more movie trilogies, storylines can be told in much more depth in long running tv series than it ever can be in movies.

    as for wanting an old republic series, i do, but they need to hire new writers for it. by new writers, i mean old writers that actually worked with old republic material before.

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    they broke the mold with kotor 1 and the writing in 2, I doubt disney's ability to create that level of depth. I remember most of the back story with the mandos during kotor 1 and they being bad guys or on a warpath, which ultimately lead to the creation of many sith trying to beat them jedi trying to do the right thing but ultimately ended up dead or sith. no idea where this tv show is going though. I'm pretty good on the starwars front, spoilt maybe by the superior insight, in terms of the force I feel like i know all i need to know, so its the individual stories that probably have more meaning than just rehashing that same old black and white clash. at first i didn't expect much force action from the mandalorian, the show seems closer to rogue one than the other starwar stuff. I'd love to see an old republic trilogy but i'm not sure you can cram that much depth into even 9hrs of screen time. I largely thought it had all been reconned, but its still my favorite starwars anything.

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    First 2 Episodes were Solid. More Star Wars feeling in 1hr of Mandalorian than the last few movies combined even without Lightsabers. Though not surprised since Dave Filoni has a hand in it and the Clone Wars series is some of the best Star Wars Media.

    Lets hope Mandalorian does well and Jon Favreau/Dave Filoni are granted the chance at a Movie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heathy View Post
    I largely thought it had all been reconned, but its still my favorite starwars anything.
    well, it wasn't retconned really. because it wasn't ever actually canon. even under lucas, the EU was always its own separate canon.

    but the clone wars and rebels have both hinted at major elements of the old republic being canon.

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