Peace is a lie. There is only passion. Through passion I gain strength. Through strength I gain power.
Through power I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken. The Force shall set me free.
–The Sith Code
Honestly I'm fine if they keep nothing but the broadest ideas of KOTOR/SWTOR. Old Republic on one side, Sith on the other. Lots of bad stuff happening. Revan caught in between, doing one thing, the other thing, and something else entirely. Details are entirely negotiable.
Revan is canon. The 3rd Revan Legion in Ep. 9 for what it's worth. Taris is canon as is the destruction of it. The Hammerhead cruisers are canon. The Mandalorian war with the jedi is canon. Malachor is canon. Practically everything from KOTOR is canon in bits and pieces.
Then of course the confirmed KOTOR movies that will canonize everything in one place lol. Can't get much more canon than that. All we need is Keanu to play Revan, and apparently Disney might be working on that.
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Jabba had dealings with the Jedi. He met several of them, and had their help.
As for Cara, didn't they say she was on Endor? Which would mean she would have met Luke, or at least heard from how the Jedi Luke Skywalker saved the Alliance.
It's weird that Rey, 25 years after the Mandalorian, has heard about the Millenium Falcon and Luke Skywalker, while the Mandalorian, growing up with a wide-travelled group of bounty hunters with a very long tradition, has not.
It doesn't bother me, mind you, but it is weird.
Keanu as jedi/sith is something i never realized we needed
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tbf, of course Rey would knew everything
i think it make a bit of sense they do not know about it, except the old dude, he should know for sure, Cara was busy fighting for her life, and in her early days i bet the empire banished the jedi/force from the registers
as for mando, the old mandalorians maybe though it didn't matter to explain to then about, since the jedi "were extinct",
but its the plot, they need to follow it
Hearing a title of someone or a reference doesn't mean you understand what it is. If Cara never cared what the word Jedi meant, she wouldn't know it. I am certain there are a lot of words we have all heard at some point in our life that we today would know nothing about.
Well, Rey hearing of the Millenium Falcon while growing up where she did does make some sense ... remember, she knew Han Solo as a Smuggler not a Rebellion General. I agree it is weird that the Mandalorian doesn't know the Jedi, but honestly, we don't know much of what he was taught growing up. And we know the Mandalorians that found him (they had the Death watch logo) did at times remove their helmet.
So we know some of the traditions changed, or perhaps we don't fully understand the helmet thing yet.
Peace is a lie. There is only passion. Through passion I gain strength. Through strength I gain power.
Through power I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken. The Force shall set me free.
–The Sith Code
Might well be. I'm fine with the explanation 'The Emperor used Propaganda, Violence and Inquisitors to supress any form of knowledge of the Jedi. On the other hand, Fallen Order has Stormtroopers calling you Jedi. It's all over the place.
I didn't mean Rey having the Millenium Falcon, I meant that she knew the Falcon from Legend, aswell as Han Solo, even though she wasn't aware that it was in her posession. Imagine you have an old cup that you've used for ages, and then Jesus of Nazareth shows up and tells you it's actually the Holy Grail. You know what the Grail is, but you didn't know your cup actually was the grail.
Which all underlines the biggest issue with Star Wars: Lack of a supervising writing team or writer how lines out ironclad guidelines as to what is, and what is not, even if it means that they have to contradict a few things that were previously established. It's little things, for the most part. For example, in Rise of Skywalker, Poe Damron acts as if he's seeing flying Stormtroopers for the first time. A few months back he saw them in one of the comic books leading up to Rise of Skywalker. Battlefront 2 tells us Force Awakens and Last Jedi take place within hours of each other at best, one of the Phasma comics depicts her hunting traitors for days. Or the 'never remove the helmet' part, which wasn't 'canon' during the Clone Wars/Rebels.
It's only little things, but it stacks up.
Well, given that YT-1300 weren't uncommon in canon. Her not knowing this particular one was the Falcon is understandable.
But, yeah, the Helmet thing needs some sort of explanation as we had Mandalorians removing their Helmet all the time in Clone Wars and Rebels.
Also, Poe Dameron was a New Republic Pilot with no knowledge of the Resistance until Leia herself recruited him, but the person we meet in RoS states he left to join the Resistance and he was a Spice Runner. Is it possible that character mistook the New Republic with the Resistance ... I don't know. Disney purposefully threw out the EU to avoid all the plot holes and issues that came with the EU, but now have their own little issues.
Peace is a lie. There is only passion. Through passion I gain strength. Through strength I gain power.
Through power I gain victory. Through victory my chains are broken. The Force shall set me free.
–The Sith Code
I think what we got from show is enough though, they only go out one at a time, they are in hiding from empire/remnants, they don't want to be identifiable too much.
Mandalore alone had a few million citizens, add the other planets in the Mandalorian sector of space n u had a bunch of them, there was no need to keep helmet on back then.
After purge, genocide, things changed.
In that same scene, Finn says, "Han Solo, the Rebellion General?"
Rey: "No, the smuggler."
Finn: "Wasn't he a war hero?"
Finn obviously knows who he is, 30 years later. Presumably he was born after the Battle of Endor, so he learned about it growing up in some random-ass place in the 'verse, or he learned it in the First Order Stormtrooper Corps, which would be weird if the FO was seeking to suppress that knowledge. And it would be weird for them to teach it as history too, unless Kylo had implemented something like that.
But regardless, later in that interaction, it's clear that Rey, who has only ever lived on Jakku as far as she remembers, knows about the Jedi and Luke when she asks Han if it's actually all real.