[TV] The Mandalorian (*Spoilers*)

[Mormolyce]

I got almost a Star Trek TNG or Babylon 5 vibe from it actually.

Yeah yeah, I know, you can make anything make "sense" with enough fanwank. Still just seems like the show was using heavy references to old material with little regard for whether it really fit. Hope they do less of that next season.

[Yunru]

They could be spacefaring on their own, or have spread across numerous planets through other means - slavery, for example. Could be someone used them as slaves in the past and shipped them around, and that their physiology simply made them suitable for desert-like planets which is why they're often found there.

They do have the ability to travel via starts, at least to some comic.

But they do live somewhere else:
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Jawa

[rhorle]

Review: not a bad little show, unambitious and not anything ground-breaking but solid. Lots of things to like.

Carbonite could have spread when Jabba had success with Han. He obviously liked to show it off and it likely spread from there. Innovation can happen and the show is set in times after the OT.

Jawas have been relocated, emigrated, and what else to several worlds. They are native though to tatooine as you suggested. The Prequels have "Jawa Juice" ordered in a restaurant. It is clear that Jawa's are known more then simply being a backwater planet would allow. It is unclear how much of their history has survived Disney however. So much of the known stuff may be "Legends" only.

Storm troopers do have good aim. Even in the movies much of their "bad aim" is just for the plot. You know so the end credits don't roll right away after they one hit kill everything. The also referenced the bad aim in the prison break episode. It is just a fun little thing. And I don't think everyone has to have good aim even more so when the empire has fallen and we have "back water" scout troops. There is a reason why off planet troops were brought in for the "real" battle.

As for the species of Yoda we do not know. George Lucas specifically kept it a mystery through out all of his ownership. It was one of the few things that was off limits and kept off limits. Even when they were allowed to kill off "main characters" in the Vong series. The child could be a genetic experiment. It could be a clone. It could be anything. Midichlorians are no more crazy then anything else in Star Wars and are cannon.

[Jotaux]

Review: not a bad little show, unambitious and not anything ground-breaking but solid. Lots of things to like.

Also full of lore niggles that drive me mad because I'm a huge nerd. Carbonite freezing was an industrial process Vader co-opted to trap Luke and tested on Han one time, but now apparently it's the default means of Mandalorians carrying prisoners.

In Empire Darth Vader states that the facilities are crude but should suffice. Lando mentions its only been used on carbonite so they test in on Han. I would imagine that a better machine could be used on life forms. They also use the process in clone wars on Anakin, Obi-wan and a bunch of troopers.

[Darththeo]

In Empire Darth Vader states that the facilities are crude but should suffice. Lando mentions its only been used on carbonite so they test in on Han. I would imagine that a better machine could be used on life forms. They also use the process in clone wars on Anakin, Obi-wan and a bunch of troopers.

Also, added that Jabba was a well known gangster that had Han on his wall for about a year ... it was going to get out about his "favorite" decoration so carbonite freezing would become more popular.

[Mormolyce]

In Empire Darth Vader states that the facilities are crude but should suffice. Lando mentions its only been used on carbonite so they test in on Han. I would imagine that a better machine could be used on life forms. They also use the process in clone wars on Anakin, Obi-wan and a bunch of troopers.

I might've given it more of a pass if they'd at least tried to make it look like a different, more sophisticated version of carbon freezing, but no it's pretty much just like the one in Empire complete with the little read-out display.

It's there for nostalgia. We can invent headcanon to explain it sure, but I still mark it as a demerit.

[Jotaux]

I might've given it more of a pass if they'd at least tried to make it look like a different, more sophisticated version of carbon freezing, but no it's pretty much just like the one in Empire complete with the little read-out display.

It's there for nostalgia. We can invent headcanon to explain it sure, but I still mark it as a demerit.

It’s not really head canon, the readout is exactly how it is in clone wars. It would be head canon to expect a different process.

[rhorle]

I might've given it more of a pass if they'd at least tried to make it look like a different, more sophisticated version of carbon freezing, but no it's pretty much just like the one in Empire complete with the little read-out display.It's there for nostalgia. We can invent headcanon to explain it sure, but I still mark it as a
demerit.

But why does something have to be different just for the sake of it. It is also a likely reason why he is such a prolific bounty hunter and why it is stated the other guild members don't like how he takes all of the best bounties. If you can freeze them than you can store a lot more living/dead targets. Also it is already a different and more sophisticated version because it is done with smaller equipment in a spaceship.

Your argument is like saying your doughnut should look different then one you had ten years ago. You are also ignoring that carbon freezing wasn't exactly a rare thing in the galaxy. It was used to transport goods. It is very possible the Razor Crest had a system installed that could be modified for freezing people instead of goods.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Surat_Nuat

There is also this guy. Who in one of the Disney-era novels had his brother frozen and used as a desk. It is clear that the criminals of the galaxy were using carbon-freezing for living things (even if they didn't care if they died). Sure there is a plot hole that Vader wanted to test out something canon later established he knew worked. But that can be explained by the specific equipment.

With all of the easter egg nostalgia in the series it is dumb to consider an actual plot device as simply nostalgia.

[Elim Garak]

They did it that way because it's what it looks like in Legends, exactly like in Episode 5. They just canonized it as a regular method of freezing live bounties. And fan service, fan service is good.

[Ihavewaffles]

Isn't boba fett an old dude in the Mandalorian time-line? Is he tracking down Din Djarin with a cane?

Or would he be about the age of the actor that played jango fett?

[rhorle]

Isn't boba fett an old dude in the Mandalorian time-line? Is he tracking down Din Djarin with a cane? Or would he be about the age of the actor that played jango fett?

He was born 32 years Before the Battle of Yavin (bby). The show takes place 9 aby. So he would be 41. Boba fell into the sarlacc pit around 4 aby. Disney has yet to really do anything with Boba. The pre-disney Legends had him survive and claw his way out to become a Mandalorian leader complete with a family and stuff. Since they made all of that non-cannon though he is "Dead until otherwise".

I really wish Disney just made a "cinematic universe". Where they kept what parts they wanted for the movie instead of completely re-writing everything. They could have just done a complete time skip to jump in after the Vong invasion as well. Most main characters were alive and "replaced" by the next generation in the stories. So it could have worked and allowed them to do their own stuff. And all the EU stuff would have made for great shows like A wraith squad, Thrawn etc.

[Mormolyce]

But why does something have to be different just for the sake of it.

Because it's ridiculous that not only does this Mandalorian happen to use carbon freezing to transport prisoners just like in Empire, when that was something Vader came up with on the spot using cargo freezing equipment, but he even apparently has the same brand of carbon freezer as a gas mining operation on Bespin.

With all of the easter egg nostalgia in the series it is dumb to consider an actual plot device as simply nostalgia.

It's not a plot device, it's a cute reveal in the first episode and is never referenced again. It's absolutely there for nostalgia.

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They did it that way because it's what it looks like in Legends, exactly like in Episode 5. They just canonized it as a regular method of freezing live bounties. And fan service, fan service is good.

Legends was guilty of plenty of the same kind of silly reductive logic too.

[Syegfryed]

He was born 32 years Before the Battle of Yavin (bby). The show takes place 9 aby. So he would be 41. Boba fell into the sarlacc pit around 4 aby. Disney has yet to really do anything with Boba. The pre-disney Legends had him survive and claw his way out to become a Mandalorian leader complete with a family and stuff. Since they made all of that non-cannon though he is "Dead until otherwise"..

not hatting on boba, but this seems like a hell of asspull, claw his way out of the sand anus with teeth like that

[Biomega]

he even apparently has the same brand of carbon freezer as a gas mining operation on Bespin.

That's actually the least incredible thing about it. SW has always had megacorporations that produce equipment used apparently all throughout the galaxy. It's no stretch at all to think that the same company making the industrial freezer used in Bespin also produces smaller models such as the one on Mando's ship. They could well be the market leader for carbon freezers and sell to everyone and everywhere.

[Syegfryed]

He did it in Legends, why not in the new canon?

im saying it was an asspull in any place, to me seems as nonsense.

[Syegfryed]

Why? It’s not like the big toothed anus digests shit quickly. The only real hurdle is getting out. He had plenty of tools on him to do so.

i mean, seems kinda impossible, he went right in the creature belly, still had teeth and mouth movements right? i imagined it had teeth all over it and would chomp him to the bone, he didn't seem to have much weapons at his disposal that are appropriate to climb either

Maybe im nitpicking but seems little out of place he surviving that, but if he actually bring something cool i don't mind, if he don't take the spotlight from mando.

[Aurrora]

not hatting on boba, but this seems like a hell of asspull, claw his way out of the sand anus with teeth like that

The dead sand anus that's known for taking an incredibly long time to eat its food.

"He thought maybe to tame the glorious monstrosity at the bottom of the Great Pit of Carkoon (and, failing that, to throw himself into its maw), but the mighty Sarlacc was injured. Burning wreckage from the sail barge had rained upon it. Already its body— considerably more massive than the mouth exposed from the sliding sands— had been partially unburied, its stoma-tubes slit open, its digesting innards pillaged by industrious Jawas. They pulled out weapons and armor, droids and tools. And skeletons, of course.

The creature of Carkoon had a pure purpose, to wait and to eat, and now it was left to thrash and wail in the grip of pillagers." - Star Wars: Aftermath: Life Debt

He wouldn't even need to climb out.

[Syegfryed]

The dead sand anus that's known for taking an incredibly long time to eat its food.

i thing it make sense to take time to digest, but i thought the teeth would mutilate him a bit

[Aurrora]

i thing it make sense to take time to digest, but i thought the teeth would mutilate him a bit

The teeth aren't really used for mastication, at least not at the point in a Sarlacc's life when it waits for food to come to it.

[Ihavewaffles]

The dead sand anus that's known for taking an incredibly long time to eat its food.

"He thought maybe to tame the glorious monstrosity at the bottom of the Great Pit of Carkoon (and, failing that, to throw himself into its maw), but the mighty Sarlacc was injured. Burning wreckage from the sail barge had rained upon it. Already its body— considerably more massive than the mouth exposed from the sliding sands— had been partially unburied, its stoma-tubes slit open, its digesting innards pillaged by industrious Jawas. They pulled out weapons and armor, droids and tools. And skeletons, of course.

The creature of Carkoon had a pure purpose, to wait and to eat, and now it was left to thrash and wail in the grip of pillagers." - Star Wars: Aftermath: Life Debt

He wouldn't even need to climb out.

But could he breathe that long in that butthole??