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  1. #921
    Quote Originally Posted by Levelfive View Post
    You guys bumped a thread that had almost fallen to page 2 to brag about caring about it less than other people. Also, something something possible to care about more than one thing at a time, etc., etc.
    I was not aware people could care about more than one thing at a time. /s

    You also missed my point if you think that my message was "I care less than you and therefore I'm better" - let me make it clearer -

    This is a minuscule issue in the grande scheme of things. People can obviously feel about it however they want and care about it as much as they want to, but let's not kid ourselves that this is absolutely a big deal like some people are acting.

    There's a lot more you can infer about why a post like this will garner 46 pages compared to bigger topics, but I'll stop here.

  2. #922
    Quote Originally Posted by tyrlaan View Post
    I was not aware people could care about more than one thing at a time. /s
    Seems that way, yeah. No one's forcing you to involve yourself in an issue that doesn't matter to you, by the way.

  3. #923
    Woman + Native American. Considering identity politics is quite important in USA these days, she is an ideal candidate for the masses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Actually it's more about goal post moving

    "See she has native American Heritage!"


    "This is about her saying she was native American"

    "She never claimed that!"

    (Links poof that she claimed to be Native American in her own words)

    "That doesn't matter because (insert goal post move)


    ^--This is the thread in a nutshell.
    Precisely. Your Dear Leader welching on a bet he lost to prove he's still a bully and an idiot. But thanks for taking this issue off the table in 2020. President Warren sure has a nice ring to it.

    Your goal post moving is adorable though. I forget, did the test prove she had Native American heritage? Whoops. Back to your lies I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levelfive View Post
    She never claimed to be 100% Native American--she claimed she has Native American ancestry, and she provided evidence that she does, embarrassing all of you, which accounts for the latest smear campaign. Just you guys lying, as usual. I guess that's why you're a Trump supporter.

    Also, lol AGAIN at Trump supporters claiming to be interested in proof, ever.
    Yeah, the Trumpkins are at it again - between lying, goal post shifting, and general bullying I think they forgot their Dear Leader lost a bet and then welshed on it. So classy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Levelfive View Post
    Seems that way, yeah. No one's forcing you to involve yourself in an issue that doesn't matter to you, by the way.
    Not forced, so we're all good.

    I feel like you have taken my commentary to be both (a) way too personal and (b) way more passionate than it was, by far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levelfive View Post
    She never claimed to be 100% Native American--she claimed she has Native American ancestry, and she provided evidence that she does, embarrassing all of you, which accounts for the latest smear campaign. Just you guys lying, as usual. I guess that's why you're a Trump supporter.

    Also, lol AGAIN at Trump supporters claiming to be interested in proof, ever.
    And double LOL at Trump supporters claiming to be concerned with lies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tyrlaan View Post
    Not forced, so we're all good.

    I feel like you have taken my commentary to be both (a) way too personal and (b) way more passionate than it was, by far.
    Oh maybe--pretty sick of the their relentless bullshit machine, probably carried over a bit.

    And 100% agreed @cubby @Adam Jensen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Levelfive View Post
    She never claimed to be 100% Native American--she claimed she has Native American ancestry, and she provided evidence that she does, embarrassing all of you, which accounts for the latest smear campaign. Just you guys lying, as usual. I guess that's why you're a Trump supporter.

    Also, lol AGAIN at Trump supporters claiming to be interested in proof, ever.
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/pol...SVO/story.html

    During her academic career as a law professor, she had her ethnicity changed from white to Native American at the University of Pennsylvania Law School, where she taught from 1987 to 1995, and at Harvard University Law School, where she was a tenured faculty member starting in 1995. (She was a visiting professor at Harvard during the 1992-1993 academic year.)

    In an interview with the Globe published last month, Warren explained that she identified herself as Native American in the late 1980s and early 1990s as many of the matriarchs of her family were dying and she began to feel that her family stories and history were becoming lost.

    Ivy League universities, like the ones where Warren taught, were under great pressure to show they had diverse staffs.


    She didn't say she had ancestry she claimed to be one even though she has less ancestry than your average American, you can't argue with facts.
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    Yes, and I identify as Scandinavian even though I am less than 100% Scandinavian. I am not 100% Danish or Norwegian (or English or German or Romanian) but I am Danish, Norwegian, English, German, and Romanian, etc. As has been pointed out numerous times, you're trying to work over the meaning of "identify" because she embarrassed the fuck out all of you. Nowhere does anything say she claimed to be 100% Native American. If she had, she probably wouldn't have made a whole video with data that emphasized a single ancestor 6 to 10 generations ago. Stop lying. For once. Let's see if you can do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/pol...SVO/story.html

    During her academic career as a law professor, she had her ethnicity changed from white to Native American at the University of Pennsylvania Law School, where she taught from 1987 to 1995, and at Harvard University Law School, where she was a tenured faculty member starting in 1995. (She was a visiting professor at Harvard during the 1992-1993 academic year.)

    In an interview with the Globe published last month, Warren explained that she identified herself as Native American in the late 1980s and early 1990s as many of the matriarchs of her family were dying and she began to feel that her family stories and history were becoming lost.

    Ivy League universities, like the ones where Warren taught, were under great pressure to show they had diverse staffs.


    She didn't say she had ancestry she claimed to be one even though she has less ancestry than your average American, you can't argue with facts.
    None of this contradicts anything. It doesn't make Warren a liar. It just means you folks are so damned desperate to create a controversy that you're willing to just straight-up lie about shit.

    Warren's done absolutely nothing wrong in any of this.

    This whole thing is just Birtherism 2.0. An attempt to manufacture a scandal out of lies and fearmongering, without any basis in fact or reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/pol...SVO/story.html

    During her academic career as a law professor, she had her ethnicity changed from white to Native American at the University of Pennsylvania Law School, where she taught from 1987 to 1995, and at Harvard University Law School, where she was a tenured faculty member starting in 1995. (She was a visiting professor at Harvard during the 1992-1993 academic year.)

    In an interview with the Globe published last month, Warren explained that she identified herself as Native American in the late 1980s and early 1990s as many of the matriarchs of her family were dying and she began to feel that her family stories and history were becoming lost.

    Ivy League universities, like the ones where Warren taught, were under great pressure to show they had diverse staffs.


    She didn't say she had ancestry she claimed to be one even though she has less ancestry than your average American, you can't argue with facts.
    Well I guess 30+ years of no crime or other claims makes me feel better she's not a repeat offender.

    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Well I guess 36 years of no crime makes me feel better he's not a repeat offender.


    Can you find me something in the last 20 years?
    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Can you find me something in the last 20 years?


    People change, should we never hire convicted felons who have served their time? My my, I had no idea you held conservative views Zenkai.
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    People change, should we never hire convicted felons who have served their time? My my, I had no idea you held conservative views Themius.

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    This thread is really circling the drain, its been the same stuff over and over again for 47 pages, is there anything new to discuss or just the same tired back and forth?
    /s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    None of this contradicts anything. It doesn't make Warren a liar. It just means you folks are so damned desperate to create a controversy that you're willing to just straight-up lie about shit.

    Warren's done absolutely nothing wrong in any of this.

    This whole thing is just Birtherism 2.0. An attempt to manufacture a scandal out of lies and fearmongering, without any basis in fact or reality.
    She claimed to be something she's not, she is a liar this is nothing like the birther thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    She claimed to be something she's not, she is a liar this is nothing like the birther thing.
    She proved she's what she claimed. Stop lying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    She claimed to be something she's not, she is a liar this is nothing like the birther thing.
    Except that she is.

    That's what makes you a liar. You can't admit a simple truth, even when genetic testing confirms it to be true, because you so DESPERATELY need to manufacture a "gotcha" that you'll believe whatever lie someone feeds you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    She claimed to be something she's not, she is a liar this is nothing like the birther thing.
    She never said she was native american, only that for a brief short period she identified as one out of respect based on stories that her mother had told her. She's never claimed to be full blooded (or even half) native american, nor any membership to any tribe.

    The fact that conservatives are still obsessing over this trivial nonsense shows how desperate they are to find anything to go after her on.

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    despite never claiming to be part of a tribe or using that to he advantage to get ahead in life and the fact she does have some native blood in her, this is a god awful way to kick off a potential presidential run. feeding the trolls gets you no where and that's all this amounts to.

    Elizabeth, whoever convinced you to go through with this should be fired immediately. people don't care about shit like this, they care about the policies that you bring to the table. that's what's going to work against trump; being substantive about what you know the American people want out of their government. All Trump and his rim jobers can do is try and smear you as much as they can and you served it to them for them with this. the only reason we bother dealing with Trump worshiping human waste is because it's free entertainment. YOU on the other hand have to be an actual adult and push your agenda to attract the decent voters out there to vote for you. don't play this game we play online.

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    So she is actually less native American then your average white american according to data. Why would that validate her claim ever? Was her argument that shes less native american then almost every other person in any given room in the United States? If so why is that anyones argument? Why would she be saying that? Trump is probably more native american, or at least statistically he is more likely to be a higher % native then she is, as her results showed an amount lower then the US standard deviation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Levelfive View Post
    She proved she's what she claimed. Stop lying.
    Being 1/1024 doesn't make you something She can't even legally claim to be Native American
    For some people, everything is a moral question. If you agree with them, you are virtuous. If you don't, you are a monster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    She never said she was native american, only that for a brief short period she identified as one out of respect based on stories that her mother had told her. She's never claimed to be full blooded (or even half) native american, nor any membership to any tribe.

    The fact that conservatives are still obsessing over this trivial nonsense shows how desperate they are to find anything to go after her on.
    Shes less native then your average European American citizen. What was her point then? Its analogous to background radiation, her native DNA.
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