New Ret Talent on PTR

[Tangra]

Ultimate Retribution (New) When an ally within 40 yards falls below 25% health, you gain Avenging Wrath for 6 sec. When an ally is slain within 40 yards of you, your Redemption spell can now be cast while in combat within the next 20 sec. Using Divine Shield or Blessing of Protection on yourself will cancel this effect. PvP Talent. PvP Talent. 1 sec global cooldown. Requires Paladin. Requires level 40+.

Thoughts? Looks strong overall and some needed creativity. I wonder if other can cast spells like BoP on you and also if this replaces regular Retribution.

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Ultimate Retribution (New) When an ally within 40 yards falls below 25% health, you gain Avenging Wrath for 6 sec. When an ally is slain within 40 yards of you, your Redemption spell can now be cast while in combat within the next 20 sec. Using Divine Shield or Blessing of Protection on yourself will cancel this effect. PvP Talent. PvP Talent. 1 sec global cooldown. Requires Paladin. Requires level 40+.

Thoughts? Looks strong overall and some needed creativity. I wonder if other can cast spells like BoP on you and also if this replaces regular Retribution.

It's a Pvp talent. Don't think it will be replacing our passive "Retribution".

[Ermelloth]

It would be better if we could get smth like this instead:

When your health or health of an ally within 40 yards falls to 25%, you gain Improved Blessing of Freedom, which can't be dispelled or spellstolen, for 10 sec, removing all impairing effects, roots and slows, granting immunity to DAZE effects and increasing your movement speed by 30%. Casting Divine Shield or BoP on yourself will cancel this effect.

- this is what we really need. Mobility at least as an escape / final charge option.

P.S. No sane opponent is going to let you cast Redemption in Arena; even if it's gonna be usable in combat, the cast is still way TOO long in order to complete it before enemy player interrupts. This will work perhaps in 1 out of 200 matches, so it's pretty useless, unless this talent is going to reduce its casting speed as well.

[Tangra]

It's a Pvp talent. Don't think it will be replacing our passive "Retribution".

It can just replace it in pvp combat. But I hope you're right.

[Demsi]

Seems pretty bad since you still have to cast it, if you're doing arena you wont get that cast of that's for sure, seems like a dead talent, atleas for arena, cant comment on RBG.

[Deleted]

Its gonna replace Seraphim's Blessing pvp talent which is bad and that new is bad if like been said cast time isnt getting lowered etc.
Well maybe for free wings but its very risky plays tho.

[kail]

I can see the free wings being decent (if there is no CD to it procing) but the redemption will never get off beyond 1600+ arenas.

[Kithelle]

Seems pretty bad since you still have to cast it, if you're doing arena you wont get that cast of that's for sure, seems like a dead talent, atleas for arena, cant comment on RBG.

Yup...unless you playing a random BG where no one is paying attention to you...the odds of getting the cast off in 20 seconds are slim.

[Tangra]

Yup...unless you playing a random BG where no one is paying attention to you...the odds of getting the cast off in 20 seconds are slim.

Yeah it seems like most of the value is meant to come from the 6 sec wings for people dropping below 25%. The resurrection part seems like it's just for fun, and a few very specific situations.

[Ulthane]

Well, it will create quite the shit show in Epic Battlegrounds.

[ipoststuff]

https://ptr.wowhead.com/spell=287947...etribution-nyi
Since it is NYI im gonna guess this is not the version we'll get. What would be nice is if we got (instant)combat ress. Would help with our mythic dungeon viablity. And we ARE the original combat ressers. http://classic.battle.net/war3/human.../paladin.shtml

[mgwatson]

Well, it will create quite the shit show in Epic Battlegrounds.

Lol, who cares about epic battlegrounds though?

[Ulthane]

Lol, who cares about epic battlegrounds though?

Right lolol topkek

[Goodl30]

Lol, who cares about epic battlegrounds though?

Me