View Poll Results: Should the military shoot protesters who throw rocks at them?

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    Should the military shoot protesters who throw rocks at them?

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    It seems to me like it is a really bad idea to attack the US military. Trump just stated that soldiers would respond with force if attacked by members of the caravan. Do you agree with this position?
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    if u attack the military physically u should expect that they can fire at u...

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    If there's not that much difference between sticks and guns, can we restrict the 2nd amendment to only include sticks, stones, and and combinations of the two? Trebuchets new meta.

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    Jesus fracking christ, is this a competition to see who is the most sociopath

    You don't need , edgelords, to say ''YES THEY SHOULD AND THEY SHOULD FIRE TANKS GUNS AT THEM, KAUZE TANKS GUNS ARE KOOLER AS THEY MAKE MORE BOOM-BOOM NOIZES''. We all know you think this, that's what your kind call ''DISKUSSION''. And we also know that you drool at the kind of war that involve firing machine guns at people with rocks-a war where the other side fire back is way less fun, since you precious MAGArats skins would be at risk.

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    Thank god we, the USA, did NOT elect a warmonger.

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    Yeah, no.

    That would be a major International incident, the consequences of which we are not prepared to deal with.
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    Just for giggles, usual suspect, is there ANY scenario in which ''A real american'' (AKA, a white ultra conservative gun toting MAGA/CSA licker) is annoyed at someone not like him'' should not end up according to you by ''and he pulls up his big manly Glock and shot him dead in the head'' ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    Jesus fracking christ, is this a competition to see who is the most sociopath

    You don't need , edgelords, to say ''YES THEY SHOULD AND THEY SHOULD FIRE TANKS GUNS AT THEM, KAUZE TANKS GUNS ARE KOOLER AS THEY MAKE MORE BOOM-BOOM NOIZES''. We all know you think this, that's what your kind call ''DISKUSSION''. And we also know that you drool at the kind of war that involve firing machine guns at people with rocks-a war where the other side fire back is way less fun, since you precious MAGArats skins would be at risk.
    Yeah, but in this case its the other side that is initiating violence. If one side says 'if you attack us, we are going to shoot you' and then the other side attacks them with rocks, isn't the side throwing the rocks essentially choosing to commit suicide?
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    If you would think further than your own little penis' reach, you'd find that shooting people never ends well.

    Trump is being a 100% moron. There are other measures you can take without shooting.

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    Any soldier that fires on these innocent people will become the biggest blue falcon in the service.

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    No. Just no, thats stupid and inhumane af.
    Your problem is that you’re more concerned about being precisely, factually, and semantically correct than about being morally right.

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    i watched rules of engagement once so im on expert on this type of thing. It doesnt go well for anyone not worrying old glory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    Just for giggles, usual suspect, is there ANY scenario in which ''A real american'' (AKA, a white ultra conservative gun toting MAGA/CSA licker) is annoyed at someone not like him'' should not end up according to you by ''and he pulls up his big manly Glock and shot him dead in the head'' ?
    I'm talking about actually attacking a military formation.
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    You people do know that rocks can be just as fucking deadly? If you're throwing rocks at someone you're doing it with the intention to hurt. Killing someone with a rock is just a matter of rock size. You throw a rock at armed forces, expect retaliation. The only real question here is why the fuck would you even do that in the first place you suicidal moron?

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    Yeah, because shooting people armed with sticks and stones is obviously going to defuse the situation, you guys. Military personnel in warzones have stricter rules of engagement than this.

    Also, if there's actually not much difference between guns and rocks, ya'll are ok with giving up your guns, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laerrus View Post
    Any soldier that fires on these innocent people will become the biggest blue falcon in the service.
    Thanks, that's not a term I hear nearly often enough these days.
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    Border Patrol has shot some Mexicans who were throwing rocks. I think it depends on how much of a threat it is. A hundred people up close and throwing rocks is pretty dangerous.

    U.S. border agent who repeatedly shot Mexican teen through a fence acquitted of murder

    The teen was throwing rocks.
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    This sort of question, and the implied fetishization of military violence behind it, is actually the reason why I 100% support the decision to have the military handle this and not local law enforcement. Not because they have more guns which is what Trump had in mind, but because they have more discipline, and would actually be able to enter tense situations with guns involved and not end up panicking and opening up. Military with NCOs who served in situations like Iraq who have experience keeping things in line is going to be far safer than pooling random officers from across a bunch of police districts.

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    If you can equip your men with guns, you can just as well give them shields and helmets. Those will protect from most throwable-size rocks. If you're going to shoot at basically unprotected people with sticks and stones, I really hope a tribunal will make sure you're never being allowed into any service where a gun is involved ever again.

    And if done sanctioned by the highest in command, the country should be internationally shunned and expelled from all international military collaborations.

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    It depends on the scenario.

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