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    The Feature Missing From WoW

    Over the years, Blizzard has gradually added more and more to the game. A lot of the things they've added have been the most successful things from other, less popular MMOs. Things like transmog, follower companions, single-player story aspects, pet battles, toy collections, etc were done by other MMOs first, and then added to WoW once Blizzard realized they were good ideas.

    The one thing that is missing is Player Housing. Now, before everyone jumps down my back about why this WOULDN'T work and how WoW already tried and failed with Garrisons, let's just take a step back and consider a few things:

    1) Player Housing has been both incredibly successful and incredibly lucrative in several other MMOs.
    A. It's been successful in many MMOs, including Elder Scrolls Online, Wildstar, SWTOR, Guild Wars, and more. So much so that while several of these games failed. The housing aspect continued to draw players and revenue for the game.

    B. It makes a lot of money for very little development time. Most housing assets are the game already. All the furniture, pictures, decorations, and house models you see around the world are already in the game. Put some of these the cash shop, and players will pay for content that's already been created years ago. It's basically an easy source of money for the Blizzard Store.


    2) It is content that would stay relevant over every new expansion of the game. One of people's biggest complaints are that content gets abandoned from one expansion to the next, like Garrisons, Artifact weapons, etc. Housing would be something that just gets added to. New decoration models would get added to the game, but the older ones would still be there. If anything the older content ones would become more rare and coveted.

    3) It helps the economy. Players spend TONS of in-game cash on housing. I spent something like 200 million+ credits on my SWTOR house and still had plans to spent much, much more. WoW needs gold sinks. Right now, the only gold sinks are mounts, and not enough people care about these for them to be truly effective. Imagine something like a statue of Warchief Sylvanus that everyone wants to buy but costs 1 million gold from a vendor.

    4) I can span all aspects of the game, from professions, to pvp, to pve, to the cash shop.
    A. Housing could easily add a whole new profession to game. One that can make decorations or various styles of buildings. If not a whole new profession, the current professions could craft various decorations, some BoE to sell, and others exclusively BoP.

    B. PvP honor levels could award various PvP themed decorations. Such as weapon plaques, mounted skulls, or npcs to place in your house.
    Arenas could award a statue of their character in the Gladiator armor for that season.

    C. PvE content could drop various decorations from raids. Exclusive, Mythic only decorations would give raiders more incentive to push content.
    I could easily imagine a NPC of a Naga could drop from the Azshara raid, and could be placed in your house.

    D. And of course some decorations would be exclusive to the Blizzard Store. They're purely cosmetic and don't over any in-game advantages.

    E. I'm sure you can think of other areas something like this would naturally fit, like rep rewards, timed dungeon runs, and achievements.

    Now let's consider some of the obvious cons people will no-doubt bring up
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    1) It will depopulate the world if people have their own player space, especially if you put things like Auction Houses and Banks in them. - No, I don't believe this will be the case. Firstly, because the game has more incentives to go out into the world now than is has had since Vanilla. World quests, world bosses, war mode all draw people to the various zones around the world. Garrisons had AHs and Banks even without these things. Secondly, Blizzard obviously doesn't believe having AHs only in the cities is important anymore as they've added a mount with a mobile AH. Sure, it's 5 million gold, but just make the player housing AH cost a huge sum too.

    2) They tried it already with Garrisons and it obviously failed. - No, Garrisons were not player housing. Yes, they were the closest thing WoW has come to giving players their own player-space, but it was not housing. It was not customizable with decorations (barely, if you count the monuments), it barely allowed you to control the lay-out. The only space it had to display your collections was if you built a stable, pet menagerie, or archaeology finds. Real player housing would be much better.

    3) This is Warcraft not the Sims. - Yes, but the two are not mutually exclusive. You can very easily make a WAR themed house. SWTOR was a good example of this where you could basically make your own private Sith Temple if you wanted. Make your player space into a walled stronghold, a mystical mage tower, a gladiator fighting arena. This isn't JUST a space to do home decorating. It's a mini-game with hours of content.

    Now that we've seen some of the pros and debunked some of the cons, let's look at what player housing could actually LOOK like:

    1) It should have a VARIETY OF THEMES. - If you are picturing an instanced section of Stormwind or Orgimmar, then that's pretty boring. Imagine instead being able to choose to buy real estate from around the entire playable Warcraft world. A floating rock in Outland, a frozen mountain top in Northrend, an underwater home in Vashj'ir, a tropical island off the coast of STV, a spooky estate in Duskwood, a tranquil retreat in the Jade Forest, or an elemental fortress in the Firelands... the possibilities are endless.

    How would it work? Simple. How did Garrisons work in Shadowmoon/Frostfire? Each housing could make use of Blizzard's sharding tech, so that when you approach the house which you've purchased, you are only sent to yours and not someone else's. If you haven't purchased that property, you would only see the "for sale" sign as you approach.

    2) It should be SOCIAL. - Encourage players to visit each other's houses. Give players the ability to set their housing to private (invite only, or key lists) or public (anyone can visit it). The public ones might become mini-towns in their own right, especially if one player managed to get all the most-difficult-to-find perks in his house. (AH, Bank, Rep Emissaries, Exclusive vendors, etc)

    3) It should be HIGHLY CUSTOMIZABLE. - Perhaps select some basic templates players have to build on, but from there let them build how they like. Placing statues, npcs, buildings, and various other decorations all over the place. SWTOR's system of "hooks" was a little limiting, but made it so there were no lore-breaking houses like you see in other, more free player housing systems. (no jump puzzles made out of random objects).

    Just Google some of the best player houses from SWTOR, Wildstar, ESO and you'll see why they are so popular.

  2. #2
    No, simply wow doesnt need housing, waste of resources from everyone involved player/developer

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    That would cost a raid tier.

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    Seeing how transmog has become the main part of the game for many many people... I do think that actual player housing would be a huge success

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wada View Post
    That would cost a raid tier.
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    Not this housing shit again. Go play the Sims plox if you want a virtual dollhouse kthxbai.

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    i'd love this personally, give people another avenue of end game content to work towards. players love collectables whether its mounts, pets (yuk), titles, rep, toys, recipes, transmog to name a few. could even tie a new proffesion to it or even use existing proffs to work towards it certain home decor items. depending on where the real estate is could help populate the game world itself or even make certain cities a bit busier again with people wanting their homes in certain destinations or even visiting friends/guild homes.

    im still of a mind that guilds should have a hang out zone somewhere, some kind of base where they can just chill together away from the riff raff, or have it designed so it looks so damn cool from the exterior you wish you could be a part of that guild just so you can use their base. again, nice ideas we can jhope for which will more than likely never be delivered as previously mentioned, RIP Ray D. tear

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    Yes, it's evergreen content that woud help the game imensely.

    But before that i'd like to see dynamic events and meta events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XDurionX View Post
    plox
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    Damn didn't even get past part 1 where you talk about putting assets into a cash store in a pretty expensive in comparison to the industry subscription based game.

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    I never understood the fascination for Player Housing.

    The day its added to the game i will roll my eyes.

    It gives zero gameplay.
    It only gives...roleplay for the RP'ers...which is a niche community.
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    A proper housing system would be a fantastic addition to WoW. As mentioned the systems/assets required to support such a feature are mostly present in the game already, and it would be a form of evergreen content that could stimulate interaction with all areas of the game. There's so much potential for such a relatively small investment in development time that I'm surprised it's been 14 years with no serious attempt at it.

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    I've said this many times before.

    What you're really asking for is for the players to make a permanent impact in the game world on a personal level. The BEST version I have ever seen came out of a MUD from the 1990s named Holomud. They added a museum feature. The way it worked was if you achieved some very extreme personal goal, you had the option to have a statue of yourself installed in the museum that could be raided for loot. You would get the opportunity to add some flavor text, name the items in the drop table, etc. which went through an approval process. The museum slowly turned into a raid tier as more people completed the achievement and added more statues. The community and you the player had the opportunity to determine just who each raid boss was and what they dropped by doing the achievement.
    TO FIX WOW:1. smaller server sizes & server-only LFG awarding satchels, so elite players help others. 2. "helper builds" with loom powers - talent trees so elite players cast buffs on low level players XP gain, HP/mana, regen, damage, etc. 3. "helper ilvl" scoring how much you help others. 4. observer games like in SC to watch/chat (like twitch but with MORE DETAILS & inside the wow UI) 5. guild leagues to compete with rival guilds for progression (with observer mode).6. jackpot world mobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keile View Post
    R.I.P Ray D. Tear

    I never knew that was a thing (and from the brawlers guild, no less). Thank you!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Derpules View Post
    I never knew that was a thing (and from the brawlers guild, no less). Thank you!
    Actually this particular grave is outside your Garrison in WoD.
    There is a thin line between not knowing and not caring, and I like to think that I walk that line every day.

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    The feature missing from wow is gear coloring dye!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keile View Post
    Actually this particular grave is outside your Garrison in WoD.
    I meant that the npc was from the brawlers guild (season 3), not the grave. Read somewhere it was Ally Garrison only, but haven't confirmed either way.
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    Two things BLizzard completely botched up: Garrisons and underwater combat. It's difficult to imagine Blizzard revisiting either one. Armor dyes are long overdue. I'd imagine they're not a reality for tech reasons (due to a terrible outdated game engine).

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    I'd prefer boob slider.
    https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...lopment-thread
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    If you are suggesting to take my Night Elfs Shadowmeld away, then please find some pike to run yourself through, tyvm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Derpules View Post
    I meant that the npc was from the brawlers guild (season 3), not the grave. Read somewhere it was Ally Garrison only, but haven't confirmed either way.
    I can, while that's not a screenie I took personally I've gone out and /cry'd at it a few times back in WoD XD

    As for Brawlers version...I know he was a THING but I never did Bralwers Guild :X
    There is a thin line between not knowing and not caring, and I like to think that I walk that line every day.

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