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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by Laurah View Post
    Not important enough to spend my life's savings on it, and if you can't resist you deserve to be milked. It's actually good. People like that will finance the game so other people will be able to enjoy it for free, or at least have to pay less.
    So your ok with people being taken advantage of as long as you get something out of it....

    Thanks for showing your not worth replying to Mr Alt Account.
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    So your ok with people being taken advantage of as long as you get something out of it....

    Thanks for showing your not worth replying to Mr Alt Account.
    How is anyone being taken advantage of?

    1) You can earn lootboxes in game, unlock them through actually playing the game.
    2) You don't have to buy them.

    It's not like selling food to starving people at exorbitant prices.

    People need to take responsibility for their actions. I'm not buying this shit. So then neither does anyone else have to.

    You know it's one of these things where, if no one bought this, they wouldn't be able to sell this.

    Calling this gambling is ridiculous.

    Are Kinder Surprise Eggs gambling, too?

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Yeee, tell that to for example Riot Games, making big money with skins, or to WoW players going crazy about mythic mounts/armor sets. Looks is VERY important to many players.
    How much money do people pay to look cool in real life? I argue that the reason we see pay to win and power items represented less is because cosmetics just make more money. And people then try to stand up this grand idea that cosmetic exploitation is fine. Defenders of this system are so fucking delusional.

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Laurah View Post
    How is anyone being taken advantage of?

    1) You can earn lootboxes in game, unlock them through actually playing the game.
    2) You don't have to buy them.

    It's not like selling food to starving people at exorbitant prices.

    People need to take responsibility for their actions. I'm not buying this shit. So then neither does anyone else have to.

    You know it's one of these things where, if no one bought this, they wouldn't be able to sell this.

    Calling this gambling is ridiculous.

    Are Kinder Surprise Eggs gambling, too?
    1) Google Gambling Addiction because you clearly don't understand what it is.

    2) Yes they are.

    That will be my last reply to your bait because its clear that's what it is.
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  5. #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    1) Google Gambling Addiction because you clearly don't understand what it is.
    This is not gambling. You can win money when gambling. This is cosmetic stuff in a videogame. It is no different than buying Hearthstone packs or buying real paper TCG packs. Or anything else that can have something inside it but doesn't have to. Kinder Surprise Eggs aren't gambling. Neither is this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    That will be my last reply to your bait because its clear that's what it is.
    Whenever people can not comprehend why someone would have an opposing position to theirs, they call it bait. Obviously this person must be trolling, why would someone believe something other than what I am believing?

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Laurah View Post
    This is not gambling. You can win money when gambling
    False.

    Ever seen any giveaway? Like say the Taco Bell Xbox One giveaway going on? They all have to offer free options with no purchase necessary to avoid being shut down. If they didn't, they would be gambling.

    But please tell me more about things you don't understand. Also many governments actually do have certain laws in place around trading card packs, usually requiring odds to be stated on the packaging or available at retail if asked.

  7. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    False.

    Ever seen any giveaway? Like say the Taco Bell Xbox One giveaway going on? They all have to offer free options with no purchase necessary to avoid being shut down. If they didn't, they would be gambling.

    But please tell me more about things you don't understand. Also many governments actually do have certain laws in place around trading card packs, usually requiring odds to be stated on the packaging or available at retail if asked.
    That's called a lottery.

  8. #68
    Quote Originally Posted by Laurah View Post
    That's called a lottery.
    and checkmate.

    lot·ter·y
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    noun

    a process or thing whose success or outcome is governed by chance.
    Just like lootbox's and they fall under gambling due to being a game of chance.

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  9. #69
    Seems like a parenting/stupid people problem, not a video game problem, to me.

  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    and checkmate.



    Just like lootbox's and they fall under gambling due to being a game of chance.

    #TheMoreYouKnow
    It's not gambling. Seriously, if you think it is, where is your outrage at Trading Card Games? Why is this only recently an issue and not 20-30 years ago when TCGs started. Why was this not an issue with Hearthstone?

  11. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by Laurah View Post
    It's not gambling.
    Dude just said lottery isn't gambling.

    I'm sleep.

  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Laurah View Post
    It's not gambling. Seriously, if you think it is, where is your outrage at Trading Card Games? Why is this only recently an issue and not 20-30 years ago when TCGs started. Why was this not an issue with Hearthstone?
    1) It factually is, you don't get to change facts cause you don't like them. You can keep screaming its not all you want but many governments,laws and the definitions disagree with you. Basic common sense also disagree's with you.

    2) Trading Card packs are also gambling and there is laws for them.

    3) It is a issue with Hearthstone, Its a issue with any game of chance.

    Finally you just said that lottery isn't gambling, That fully shows what you are doing.
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  13. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    Dude just said lottery isn't gambling.

    I'm sleep.
    No a lottery isn't gambling. Going into a casino is gambling. Betting money on red is gambling.

    Going to a lottery where you can win a popcorn machine isn't gambling. Otherwise gambling is allowed for children in my country since I was a kid. I remember I bought lottery tickets at my school when I was 6.

  14. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by Laurah View Post
    No a lottery isn't gambling.
    Tell it to this website, they didn't get the memo.

    https://www.kylottery.com/apps/
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  15. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    2) Trading Card packs are also gambling and there is laws for them.
    Really? In what countries? Not where I live. I bought Pokemon TCG packs as a kid. Friends of mine bought Magic packs as kids. This isn't illegal here, never was and never will be. It is not gambling. We also have Kinder Surprise Eggs. You know, the things where there are cool little figures in them, and you don't know which could be in them. It's a random surprise element cause that makes it more exciting. And guess what. Kids were always able to buy them here. I collected them as a kid. Guess what. Not illegal. You know why? Cause it's not gambling.

    What about sticker albums? How about Baseball Cards? Pretty much everything you can collect has a random element to it cause otherwise it would be boring.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    3) It is a issue with Hearthstone, Its a issue with any game of chance.
    Yeah? Where was the outrage when Hearthstone was released? It never happened cause it's not gambling. All of a sudden lootboxes come out and everybody loses their shit.

  16. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Laurah View Post
    No a lottery isn't gambling.
    You keep doing it. You can't expect people to take you serious when you keep making one of the most contradictory statements you can make in a discussion of this nature.

    So please, don't quote me again until you go and learn what gambling is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post
    Don't want the government in the video game industry then people need to start boycotting these and AAA publishers need to remove them.

    Fix your problems or the government will force you to fix them.
    literally entire human history is proving that this line is wrong
    if we can organize our sh8t we wouldn't need a government in first place, heck even with government they still abuse their positions to try scam us from money in their pockets (even the 'nice' canada just last week tried to make stairs for 65k usd that cost 0.5k !), but this far better than no system at all
    and can't wait until the government hammer drops down on this gambling and kill it
    Quote Originally Posted by Onikaroshi View Post
    They're not going anywhere, even if the Gov't bans them. They banned them in China, all blizzard did was sell a small amount of dust in HS with BONUS PACK. So like in OW, you'll buy maybe 10-100 gold and get loot boxes.

    It circumvents the ban because you're buying the gold, the loot boxes are "free"
    Belguim says hi and tell u there is no lootbox, be it 'free' with gold or not, flat out ban even free lootbox, the way it should be
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  18. #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    You keep doing it. You can't expect people to take you serious when you keep making one of the most contradictory statements you can make in a discussion of this nature.

    So please, don't quote me again until you go and learn what gambling is.
    If it was gambling, it would be forbidden here. You can't go into a casino as a kid. Why would you be able to participate in a lottery if it was gambling?

  19. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Laurah View Post
    Pretty much everything you can collect has a random element to it cause otherwise it would be boring.
    This guy is an activision exec in hopes of a future where they no longer sell you games, they sell you "game boxes" that will have a random game in it and it might be the one you want. Cause just buying the game you want is boring right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tech614 View Post
    This guy is an activision exec in hopes of a future where they no longer sell you games, they sell you "game boxes" that will have a random game in it and it might be the one you want. Cause just buying the game you want is boring right?
    What a dumb comparison.

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