(Loot Box's) Number of child gamblers quadruples in just two years....

[Tech614]

Learn some hubris.

Hurbis is not something you learn.

Just like lottery is gambling.

Just like a comparison is not giving an example of your own statement.

You have failed to prove anything wrong, gambling is simply that- spending some form of currency on a game of chance.

[Onikaroshi]

False, the Taco Bell giveaway gives you 2 entries per day regardless of if you spend money or not. The odds have to be the same. You can't just buy infinite boxes and enter them all, you can only enter once per day per entry method(text and web).

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Again it's not a comparison. Learn the meaning of words before using them.

The guy who claims lottery isn't gambling really should stop replying. One thing is for sure, you're not a gambler. Not a good one anyways because you have no idea when to fold em'.

Guess t-bell changed theirs since like 8 years ago then, you can still buy large amount of McDonalds during monopoly though, point is, loot boxes aren't like going to the casino, or playing the lotto, if you can get them free

And technically you're not legally allowed to buy things online under the age of 18 in most countries, so that part is the fault of the parents

[Tech614]

if you can get them free

You can get free tokens and free lotto entries to you know this right? Almost every form of gambling has free entry points to try and hook you.

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So every time you buy a box of cereal with a random toy in it, that is gambling?

[Nurasu]

So every time you buy a box of cereal with a random toy in it, that is gambling?

Yes; their problem is that they're arguing gambling is inherently bad and wrong, Puritan-style.

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Yes; their problem is that they're arguing gambling is inherently bad and wrong, Puritan-style.

So gambling is legal for children everywhere?

[shadowmatrix]

Far too much focus on lootboxes and not enough on the causes of the increase. If lootboxes were the real issue then most of us would be addicts since we grew up dealing with trading cards of some kind. Baseball, basketball, football, hockey, yu-gi-oh, pokemon, digimon, etc had already done the same thing that lootboxes are doing now.

[Nurasu]

So gambling is legal for children everywhere?

That would seem to be the argument, yes. The only differences I can see would be perception and convenience.

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That would seem to be the argument, yes. The only differences I can see would be perception and convenience.

If gambling is legal for children everywhere, because everything that you pay for with some kind of currency and has some kind of randomness in terms of what you get is gambling, then what is the problem with lootboxes?

[Nurasu]

If gambling is legal for children everywhere, because everything that you pay for with some kind of currency and has some kind of randomness in terms of what you get is gambling, then what is the problem with lootboxes?

Public perception that loot boxes are worse and the convenience of getting looting boxes rather than 20 boxes of cereal.

[Yunru]

Tell me guys. Does this look dangerous to you:

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Tell me guys. Does this look dangerous to you:

It's literally the same as a guy buying a display of trading card game packs.

[Onikaroshi]

So gambling is legal for children everywhere?

Technically buying loot boxes isn't legal for children, it's either their parent's allowing it, or their parent's being too daft to realize they're snaking their CC.

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Technically buying loot boxes isn't legal for children, it's either their parent's allowing it, or their parent's being too daft to realize they're snaking their CC.

You don't have to use a credit card. You don't even have to use real money, you can convert WoW gold into battle net balance. Well in Blizzard games at least.

[Yunru]

It's literally the same as a guy buying a display of trading card game packs.

Not true. You cant sell those cards.

I can get $250000 dollars for this:


If i try to sell the ingame card packs (for real money), i just cant.

[Onikaroshi]

You don't have to use a credit card. You don't even have to use real money, you can convert WoW gold into battle net balance. Well in Blizzard games at least.

I mean, you show me a gambling addicted kid with not only the patience to farm wow gold, but also a kid who even PLAYS wow anymore, and I'll give you a cookie. On top of that, this isn't really a Blizzard only thing, though other companies do it much worse, well beyond cosmetics.

[Deleted]

Not true. You cant sell those cards.

I can get $250000 dollars for this:


If i try to sell the ingame card packs (for real money), i just cant.

Sure. But I know enough people who don't intend to sell their TCG cards anyway and never will.

This is more a matter of real world goods vs. virtual goods.

We can then also wonder if it is smart to buy video games or music online, without a physical copy you can resell.

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I mean, you show me a gambling addicted kid with not only the patience to farm wow gold, but also a kid who even PLAYS wow anymore, and I'll give you a cookie. On top of that, this isn't really a Blizzard only thing, though other companies do it much worse, well beyond cosmetics.

This has nothing to do with gambling addiction, because this isn't gambling.

[Onikaroshi]

Sure. But I know enough people who don't intend to sell their TCG cards anyway and never will.

This is more a matter of real world goods vs. virtual goods.

We can then also wonder if it is smart to buy video games or music online, without a physical copy you can resell.

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This has nothing to do with gambling addiction, because this isn't gambling.

I didn't say it did, just pointing out that kid's are not legally allowed to buy, FOR CASH MONEY, loot boxes either, without parent approval.

[Deleted]

I didn't say it did, just pointing out that kid's are not legally allowed to buy, FOR CASH MONEY, loot boxes either, without parent approval.

I'm not sure why they wouldn't be legally allowed to do so. Are they able to buy battlenet balance for Blizzard games? If yes then they can buy these things. Can they farm gold in WoW? Then they can convert that to battlenet balance.

[Onikaroshi]

I'm not sure why they wouldn't be legally allowed to do so. Are they able to buy battlenet balance for Blizzard games? If yes then they can buy these things. Can they farm gold in WoW? Then they can convert that to battlenet balance.

Because they're not legally allowed do get CC's and Debit card's without parental consent, we're not talking battle.net balance or gold, but actual cash. (And if they're under 13, they're not legally allowed to be anywhere online without parental consent. You can't even join Discord if you're under 13 and risk having every server you're part of taken down). Blizzard is about the only one that makes it easy with cards at the store you can spend greenbacks on.