Originally Posted by
Tyrannica
but we only compare specs here.....so havoc vs frost dk...havoc is the clear winner, no contest.
its very embarassing how obliterate hits like a wet noodle, dunno when this started......maybe legion or bfa? when a dot and auto hits do more dmg than obliterate i think we have a problem with the specs class fantasy as a melee hard hitter.
compare chaos strike with obliterate.
i mean obliterate hits like demon's bite..like the dhs filler, actually. Just look in any dps chart like details and see the huge gap between both abilities, that kinda are about to do the same thing.
i play dks since wrath and remember very different times until the big class revamps in legion.
The frost spec might be boring or easy to play for a long time now, before any class prunings, but at least, it did hit hard with obliterate and that was one of the reasions, why people liked to play frost.
Now, i do not recognize the spec anymore and find it embarassing to bother with - unholy all day and night it is, until frost is back in melee form as a hard hitter.
Of course, i consider all things wow not just pve alone, but my chaos strike vs obliterate example was clearly about pve dmg and numbers on pve boss mobs. How can a class designer (who probably do not bother with pvp anyways in his whole lifetime) justify this bullshit change from glorious past frost dk designs?
Obliterate should always hit very hard, BoS should just be an addition to it.
Actually, Obliterate should hit harder than any warrior or dh ability, because frost dk have not even half the mobility of said classes.
Fail design, period.