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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    I wish them luck with local corruption, tribalism, bloody uprisings and wars (both civil and between them).

    Integrating them into Chinese sphere isn't going to be easy.
    It will take time, money and will. The Chinese have all three, and then they shall be at your soft underbelly. Everything east of Urals is then compromised and threatened by Chinese presence in Central Asian nations.

    You seem rather reluctant to understand the Chinese ambitions.

  2. #182
    Quote Originally Posted by Prabog View Post
    It will take time, money and will. The Chinese have all three, and then they shall be at your soft underbelly. Everything east of Urals is then compromised and threatened by Chinese presence in Central Asian nations.

    You seem rather reluctant to understand the Chinese ambitions.
    I understand Chinese ambitions but we really cannot afford to properly integrate Central Asian republics again.

    They just don't have enough of we really need for that to be worth it. They would be dead weight.

    And our Far East is more vulnerable anyway then Central Asian adjacent territories (and far more legitimate claim for Chinese).

    Our expansion vector at the moment is Middle East (making real Oil cartel between all major producers can hold Chinese ambitions in check) and Africa (Libya, Egypt, CAR).

  3. #183
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Yes, below small countries riding gas or oil riches. A bit too big for that.
    Your optimism is commendable LOL.
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  4. #184
    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    Your optimism is commendable LOL.
    Reality is that Russia is doing pretty well.

    Not "best in the world", but quite decently. And all that while being world second in plenty of areas (like immigration or military).

    Arrangements that allowed Western world to get their place cannot be repeated, and Western powers are quite wary of expanding them to those who can actually hold some weight once in the system.

    So, got to stop dreaming "joining West" (and "solving all problems" with that) and just slowly get better without them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Reality is that Russia is doing pretty well.

    Not "best in the world", but quite decently. And all that while being world second in plenty of areas (like immigration or military).

    Arrangements that allowed Western world to get their place cannot be repeated, and Western powers are quite wary of expanding them to those who can actually hold some weight once in the system.

    So, got to stop dreaming "joining West" (and "solving all problems" with that) and just slowly get better without them.
    Your economy has been stagnant if not declining since 2014. Hmm, what happened in 2014 again? Oh yes, Crimea.

    Almost as if the sanctions are crippling you, just like the thread says.
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  6. #186
    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    Your economy has been stagnant if not declining since 2014. Hmm, what happened in 2014 again? Oh yes, Crimea.
    It was predicted to be dropping in growth due to capital under-investment in 2013, without any sanctions and oil shocks.

    Almost as if the sanctions are crippling you, just like the thread says.
    It is almost like you like to get full credit where you actually contributed very little.

  7. #187
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    It was predicted to be dropping in growth due to capital under-investment in 2013, without any sanctions and oil shocks.

    It is almost like you like to get full credit where you actually contributed very little.
    Was it predicted to continue for 5+ years? LOL.

    Your mental gymnastics should try out for the Olympics.
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    It is a fact, not just something I made up.

  8. #188
    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    Was it predicted to continue for 5+ years? LOL.
    We are already past recession and on robust path of modest growth - barring global financial crises.

    And we're best positioned to survive global financial crisis as well.

  9. #189
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    We are already past recession and on robust path of modest growth - barring global financial crises.

    And we're best positioned to survive global financial crisis as well.
    Still not even back to 2014 levels.


    https://tradingeconomics.com/russia/gdp-per-capita-ppp

    Which, again, is behind Trinidad and Tobago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    Still not even back to 2014 levels.
    You're lacking 2018 which is ending this month in your picture, so that isn't obvious - it might as well be.

    And if not, if recovery is robust we'll be there next year.

    After that we'll be strictly better off.

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